Who is now listening to Dr Glenn Beck?

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
reply to post by Misoir

 

Too bad all that you've just typed can be mitigated easily with the fact that Beck has that nasty little habit of being right about what he says almost every time he floats a theory.

I assume you like hearing what you never thought about (the obvious), packaged in neat little 'lie bombs', that are designed to twist the works of the Founding Father's, Christianity, the 'classics' if you will, while running interference for RnR (roger and rupert) and their tribe.

Fortunately so many are saying this better than I...you are an ass if you can't see through this man. He is effective because he tells many truths, but couples them with the same old song and dance. The very best liars know these tactics. I never want to meet glen beck's 'Jesus'. I never want to meet glen beck. I know exactly what he is and why he is there.

Thanks for reminding me there are folks like you, lots of 'em.

Originally posted by Jenna
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

See here's the thing. People like to go after Beck and pretend that his show is a news program and that everything is supposed to be 100% fact. It's not. He's a news commentator.

No, here is the thing. He is not even a news commentator. He is just a guy with a show. Even he admits he is full of crap, just spews nonsense, and that his followers are naive at best.

I think you are responding to the wrong person here. I am not sure you are reading the same thread that I am.

What he says on his show is mostly his opinion on whatever the topic of the day is with some facts thrown in. Is he wrong on his facts sometimes? Yeah, just like any other normal human being. Does that make him a shill, dis-info agent, [insert favorite insult here]? Nope.

Let me see, I agreed with you and it scared you so you thought you would see just how quickly you can do a 180? This is kind of a sad post considering the context.

Please do yourself a favor and read through this thread again.

Take notice of the claims I am responding to.

The people I am responding to are the ones claiming that Beck "TELLS THE TRUTH" and "DELIVERS THE TRUTH" and "TELLS IT LIKE IT IS."

You need to remind these people he is just an entertainer saying what he THINKS, not me. I got all that. You have a thread full of people claiming that Beck tells the truth and you decide to "inform" me that he is not a news man?



Cute is probably the nicest way I can put that.

Unlike some others, he doesn't say "This is fact" or any variation thereof after every single statement. Instead he makes a lot of 'I' statements. "I think.." "I believe.." "I feel.." That in itself tells you that he's giving his opinion and his interpretation of events, yet people constantly come on here trying to claim that he's lying. If his opinion or interpretation is wrong, that just makes him wrong not a liar.

I think you suffer from something here.

Where did I ever say that Beck pretends to report facts? Nowhere.

When did I ever say the Beck is supposed to be reporting facts? Never.

Your little friends in this thread seem to think he is some kind of TRUTH machine. Tell them.

As far as getting things wrong just some times...
you are obviously not reading anything I posted.

I understand you got all "scurrd" when I agreed with you so you had to do quick damage control. It just would have worked better if your response to me did not make so little sense given the statements made by Becks fans in this thread about how he tells all kinds of truths.

FAIL.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I think you are responding to the wrong person here. I am not sure you are reading the same thread that I am.

Had I meant to respond to someone else, I would have. And yes I've read the entire thread. Twice actually.

Let me see, I agreed with you and it scared you so you thought you would see just how quickly you can do a 180? This is kind of a sad post considering the context.

No 180's here, nor did I get scared because someone agreed with me.

You need to remind these people he is just an entertainer saying what he THINKS, not me. I got all that. You have a thread full of people claiming that Beck tells the truth and you decide to "inform" me that he is not a news man?

I wasn't aware that you are the only person capable of reading my posts. Here I thought everyone in the thread could. (Unless they have me on ignore of course.) As for whether you get what I said in my last post, I'm not so sure you do.

I think you suffer from something here.

Indeed I do. I suffer from an overwhelming urge to laugh at the moment.

I understand you got all "scurrd" when I agreed with you so you had to do quick damage control. It just would have worked better if your response to me did not make so little sense given the statements made by Becks fans in this thread about how he tells all kinds of truths.

My response to you made perfect sense considering in the post I was responding to you called him a shill for the gold companies and "full of crap". Or did you forget you typed that? As for the rest of your posts, you've also called him a shill (in general and not in reference to pushing gold), a con man, and provided links to your own google searches that call him a liar, fraud, neocon, and hypocrite. My response to you was based on all of your posts in this thread and not just the single one that was directed at me.

Pushing gold doesn't make him a shill, nor does him having opinions that are proved wrong make him a shill, liar, neocon, hypocrite, fraud, or any other label you care to toss at him. It just makes him wrong and perhaps greedy as far as the gold goes. Perhaps I should have spelled it out more clearly? Or perhaps I should have ignored all of your posts except the one directed at me when responding?

FAIL.

Indeed, you did. I find it rather interesting that after claiming he is this, that, and the other in every other post you've made in this thread, you try to pretend that you've said nothing of the sort based on the one post you directed at me. Doesn't work that way, sorry.

This person is a con, and if your a christian, he knows he is just a con, so how can he be a christian.

But who cares, he is fooling all those people, why should we care.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
Sure he benefits from Goldline, they're his sponsor. Why the hell would he advertise for them if they didt pay him?

Gold prices will probably double from current levels once the scat hits the fan and the inflation kicks in. So yes, most definitely buy gold if you can. You'd be a fool not to shelter your money there.

Goldline Scam
May 18th, 2010 by Jon Taplin

It appears that the Goldline scam I wrote about last fall has finally attracted some Congressional scrutiny. Rep. Anthony Weiner issued a report this morning.

The report alleges that Goldline grossly overcharges for the gold coins that constitute the bulk of its business, uses misleading sales techniques and takes advantage of fears about President Barack Obama’s stewardship of the economy – which are stoked by its paid stable of paid conservative endorsers including Beck, Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham and Fred Thompson – “to cheat consumers.”...

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Tell me something if you would. If he is an honest man who cares about his viewers, why would he push one of the most overpriced gold dealers on the market? There are plenty of places to buy gold much cheaper than from Goldline so if it is about honesty and integrity, why would he not inform his viewers of this fact?

Why do they have an A+ rating when they suck so much?

Why are you just repeating the MSM line?

Why do you allow them to use you to get their message out?

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf

Problem is he sticks with the truth so they just cant get him.

The truth, eh?

"We are dealing with people who think they should rebel until they get their little kingdom like Satan did," said Beck. "You know what? Thanks, Mr. President, but I think we're going to keep the Internet the way it is right now. You know--or at least until people who are worshipping Satan, you know, aren't in office."

- Glenn Beck

So since he tells the truth, this statement is based on real facts. So you can easily tell me who is in office that worships Satan?

I cant see how that statement is wrong quite honestly.

reply to post by K J Gunderson



I dont know the context of these. The last thing I'd do is trust a post from you of all people.

There is a difference between right wrong and lying. I can give him the wiggle-room to be wrong. He in fact says that if he is wrong about something he leads with it and apologises for getting it wrong.

I think that shows integrity.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by Jenna
Oh I just love this. Alex Jones pushing gold is somehow helping people be prepared. Glenn Beck pushing gold is ripping people off and a scam.

If it helps, I would not follow either one through an emergency exit during a fire. I used to Listen to Alex all the time for entertainment but now half his freakin' show is an ad for gold. Half the time the entire 3rd hour is specifically dedicated to buying gold. Both these nuts are full of crap, easily found out, and nothing but shills for some of the most expensive gold dealers in the business.

Nice save. At least you have to appear to be intellectually honest.

Originally posted by alienreality

Originally posted by Misoir
There are so many things I take offense to in your posts my good sir I don't even know where to begin.

I too consider myself a Constitutionalist, and I cringe at even hearing the name Glenn Beck. Here is a list of what he is...

1. A con-man
2. A liar
3. A profiteer
4. A corporatist
5. A Christian lunatic
6. A 'CINO'(Constitutionalist In Name Only)
7. A threat to intellectuality

It is very disturbing that you think other people have no brains and will be so easily indoctrinated by Glen Beck..
This is sadly what the modern liberal democrats think and it is one of the key points that Glen Beck talks about..
Rush also talks about this all the time,; that liberal democrats know better than everyone else and they always want to help protect everyone else from this threat..
They believe people have no brains and can't think for themselves and they want the public to allow them to have the "power" to protect us all from this. Because they know better than everyone else...
You prove that by your post..
LOSE your inflated self pride and you will discover that you are no smarter than anyone else!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, that response is so confused and...outright false that it pains me to read it. It really makes me upset that people have such little reading comprehension and perspective as to miss the boat by such a wide margin. How did liberal democrats come into play? Why even buy that game they sell you? People DO follow Glenn Beck much like they would Oprah and let them think for them, then repeat those thoughts to others without ever thinking about those same thoughts! If you don't think about what you learned, you will ONLY know what you have been taught, and I see it ALL the time. It has nothing to do with pride and smarts, it is about looking at the world with fresh eyes because only then will you spot the fakers, those with agendas and the machines of control in this world.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by Jenna
Oh I just love this. Alex Jones pushing gold is somehow helping people be prepared. Glenn Beck pushing gold is ripping people off and a scam.

I generally don't take investment advice from talk show hosts who are being paid to tell me to buy something.

Plus...isn't it funny how they both get paid to sell gold...and then in their shows they paint this doom and gloom scenario for ANY OTHER INVESTMENT OPTION???

But go ahead...buy your gold..."shelter" your money...seems like the marketing folks at these gold firms have really pegged their demographic good.

He isnt whipping everyone into a panic and telling them to sell everything they own and convert it into gold. He specifically says the gold isnt for everyone bit is right for him. He tells them that they should " Look into it and see if it is right for you " Then he proposes contacting Goldline to see if it is in fact right for you.


He also says that gold is insurance for wealth rather than an investment.

Originally posted by alienreality
KJ,
so far most of the links you provided fail and give an error notice..no page found...

The other links you are providing trying to show that Glen beck is a liar are not actually proving that, but they show he might have been inaccurate in some of his comments..(based on people posting about it)
even giving you some credence doesn't justify the things you are purporting about him...
it is okay if you despise Glen... we all despise some people...
if you support communism that is okay too because it is your inalienable right to choose anything you wish... just don't mince words so much and just say what what it you believe in...
If you truly believe in the goodwill towards your fellow man and love thy neigbor , then I can accept you.. This is also Glen Beck's core belief, so you and him are linked in that regard, even if that makes you feel ill...

this is why I seldom ever click on someones links. They try to create a wordy post with a lot of links believing that somehow that makes them look right.

Gunderson is a prolific offender in this manner.

Originally posted by davidmann

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
reply to post by Misoir

 

Too bad all that you've just typed can be mitigated easily with the fact that Beck has that nasty little habit of being right about what he says almost every time he floats a theory.

I assume you like hearing what you never thought about (the obvious), packaged in neat little 'lie bombs', that are designed to twist the works of the Founding Father's, Christianity, the 'classics' if you will, while running interference for RnR (roger and rupert) and their tribe.

Fortunately so many are saying this better than I...you are an ass if you can't see through this man. He is effective because he tells many truths, but couples them with the same old song and dance. The very best liars know these tactics. I never want to meet glen beck's 'Jesus'. I never want to meet glen beck. I know exactly what he is and why he is there.

Thanks for reminding me there are folks like you, lots of 'em.

Oh you are quite wrong about this. Re-read the the OP. People like you are the reason I started listening to him in the first place. Thanks for making me interested. I have quite a history of being who I was sans Beck. Reality is our opinions mesh and not move in lockstep.

Do I disagree with him sometimes? Yes I do. I dont call him a liar for that, I just think that he's wrong and time will tell. It certainly doesn't ruin his credibility with me because he's proven to have integrity and admit when he's wrong.

So put your money where your mouth is. Post where he lied about the founding fathers. Go ahead, back up your claim.

reply to post by K J Gunderson


your right, he does admit that he's just a regular schmo with a radio show. You are a liar liar pants on fire when you say that he himself admits that he s full of crap.

Beck delivers the truth how he sees it. Now is he right all of the time? No he's not. but then again that is his opinion and theory. If he's wrong, he admits it. That shows integrity.

Originally posted by Jenna
No 180's here, nor did I get scared because someone agreed with me.

I wasn't aware that you are the only person capable of reading my posts. Here I thought everyone in the thread could. (Unless they have me on ignore of course.) As for whether you get what I said in my last post, I'm not so sure you do.

Did I say no one else could read your posts? I was specifically speaking about who you were addressing.

Had I meant to respond to someone else, I would have. And yes I've read the entire thread. Twice actually.

You were saying...?

Indeed I do. I suffer from an overwhelming urge to laugh at the moment.

Then please do. Laughing is very good for you.

My response to you made perfect sense considering in the post I was responding to you called him a shill for the gold companies and "full of crap". Or did you forget you typed that?

I know exactly what I typed and that is why it makes no sense for you to then "correct" me by telling me he is not genuine. NO KIDDING?

As for the rest of your posts, you've also called him a shill (in general and not in reference to pushing gold), a con man, and provided links to your own google searches that call him a liar, fraud, neocon, and hypocrite. My response to you was based on all of your posts in this thread and not just the single one that was directed at me.

So you did not bother to read one article found in those google searches? Many of them are well researched and full of verifiable FACTS. I can see why you would just dismiss that. Aside from a review of what I have posted, your point?

Pushing gold doesn't make him a shill,

Selling gold for a company that marks it up more than anyone else makes him sleazy. Using his show to "report facts" that would both lead people to feel they need gold as well as artificially inflate the price of gold DOES MAKE HIM A SHILL. Selling that expensive gold why telling people he really cares about what is best for them, makes him a con man.

nor does him having opinions that are proved wrong make him a shill, liar, neocon, hypocrite, fraud, or any other label you care to toss at him.

No, you are right. What does is the fact that he PRESENTS these things as NEWS and FACTS. This is why I am confused because if you have been reading this thread, the entire defense of him has been that he "REPORTS THE TRUTH." Why on Earth are you skipping over all of those posts to tell me he is not accurate?

It just makes him wrong and perhaps greedy as far as the gold goes. Perhaps I should have spelled it out more clearly? Or perhaps I should have ignored all of your posts except the one directed at me when responding?

Maybe so since you are apparently ignoring the flood of Beckites claiming he "REPORTS THE TRUTH." Why are you not getting this?

Indeed, you did. I find it rather interesting that after claiming he is this, that, and the other in every other post you've made in this thread, you try to pretend that you've said nothing of the sort based on the one post you directed at me. Doesn't work that way, sorry.

Wow, how do you get that? You are a very confused individual and I guarantee you get at LEAST one star just for arguing with me. I also guarantee not one other person can explain what you just said. I never denied any of the things I said about him. I simply denied ever claiming he was a genuine news man. I never said that. You decided to "inform" me that he is not a genuine news man.

See all the people defending him because THEY BELIEVE he is a reliable news man in this thread? Go tell it to them.

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

your right, he does admit that he's just a regular schmo with a radio show. You are a liar liar pants on fire when you say that he himself admits that he s full of crap.

Glenn Beck ADMITS HE CHECKS NO FACTS - IE is full of crap



You need to make up your mind. Does he tell the truth, or is he an entertainer. Please explain to me why if you say both.

[edit on 28-5-2010 by K J Gunderson]

reply to post by K J Gunderson


if endorsing gold makes him a shill for the gold industry then I suppose you are a shill fro the garbage industry since you endorse and shovel so much of it in your posts.

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

your right, he does admit that he's just a regular schmo with a radio show. You are a liar liar pants on fire when you say that he himself admits that he s full of crap.

Beck delivers the truth how he sees it. Now is he right all of the time? No he's not. but then again that is his opinion and theory. If he's wrong, he admits it. That shows integrity.

I have never heard of him fessing up and correcting himself and his audience about bashing Ron Paul, supporting the bank bailouts, supporting both of the wars, defending bush fiercely and most recently, trashing Debra Medina.

[edit on 28-5-2010 by SmokeandShadow]

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

your right, he does admit that he's just a regular schmo with a radio show. You are a liar liar pants on fire when you say that he himself admits that he s full of crap.

Glenn Beck ADMITS HE CHECKS NO FACTS - IE is full of crap

You need to make up your mind. Does he tell the truth, or is he an entertainer. Please explain to me why if you say both.

[edit on 28-5-2010 by K J Gunderson]

Gawd you are so f'ing full of crap! Did you even watch that video? He says nothing about not checking facts. It doesn't support your claim! You post pure garbage Gunderson. Pure garbage.

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

if endorsing gold makes him a shill for the gold industry then I suppose you are a shill fro the garbage industry since you endorse and shovel so much of it in your posts.

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR :seal clap:

That is some clever clever stuff. So what news network does the show in which I scare people into wanting garbage as well as help inflate the price of garbage air?

Please keep your seventh grade wit on the short bus where it belongs. I was going to go back and respond to your littany of posts to me but after seeing this sterling example of what passes for intelligent discourse in your mind, I am not so sure. I would hate to waste my time again pointing out facts and reality to you - kind of like how you seem to think you can defend Beck as a truth teller and as an entertainer at the same time just to have you respond with the kind of "yo momma" level post you have given us here.

Originally posted by SmokeandShadow

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

your right, he does admit that he's just a regular schmo with a radio show. You are a liar liar pants on fire when you say that he himself admits that he s full of crap.

Beck delivers the truth how he sees it. Now is he right all of the time? No he's not. but then again that is his opinion and theory. If he's wrong, he admits it. That shows integrity.

I have never heard of him fessing up and correcting himself and his audience about bashing Ron Paul, supporting the bank bailouts, supporting both of the wars, defending bush fiercely and most recently, trashing Debra Medina.

[edit on 28-5-2010 by SmokeandShadow]

I listened to that Medima show. She got what she deserved. I have no tolerance for truthers and its scary when they are running for office.

Good for Beck for dragging that little character flaw out into the light.