Operation Enduring Israel: Attack on America, The Jewish Connection

Nice arguement filosophia. I cannot deny something that did not exist. The question is can you prove it? Just for example, you cannot deny there is an invisible ninja behind you. There's your logic. BTW, lets suppose what you say is true, can you base an opinion over 5 people's reaction?... Hey, in Canada there are more than 5 people that hate blacks. Does that mean Canadian people are racist? Please tell me you are underage for the sake of your brain

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S&F, although I may not agree with some of the conclusions drawn by the OP,
there are certainly some strange coincidences that people need to think about.

Americans must start considering the possibility that Israel may not be our friend. I feel they would officially turn against us in an instant if they felt it would gain them anything.

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Hate to tell you this but the USS Liberty was flying a LARGE American Flag. You my friend (and I use that term loosely) are just trolling and trying to derail this thread! Take your name calling and idiocy elsewhere please!
Boondock, very nice and well thought out thread. The amount of research you put into this is commendable! I totally agree with you, there is a rampant effort on the zionist part to destroy america and the rest of the world. To put us all in a choke chain and keep us licking their boots!

Can a pilot see and recognize a flag from such heights? Modern armies with modern technologies and equipment do such mistakes, and we're talking DECADES past. Start using your brain instead of your ass.

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www.youtube.com...

They went on a talk show and said their purpose was to document the event, but how would they know to document the event as it was happening?

LOL, yet another youtube with a misleading title. Should've guessed.

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Uh yah the planes did very low fly bys buddy, had to make sure it was the liberty that they were ordered to sink. Fellow posters please note sparkzzz reverting to personal attacks and name calling is just his way of trying to derail the thread and to draw attention away from the very valuable information posted.

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okay so you didn't even address my comment I'm done wasting my time on you. Why don't you move to Israel if you love it so much.

edit: @azrael36: I second that notion.

So anyone else notice this thread got bumped off the front page?

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Both of you Boondock and Proto Make an excellent argument.
I would like to see things from a slightly different slant though.
I try to avoid saying I hate the Jews, mostly because I’m a bald 230ish pound white guy, no tattoos though. People are waaay too quick to throw the Nazi label on me, and that label is so far from me it’s not even funny.
Truth is I have a deep dislike of the Jews and the Muslims and the Christians, although I have met many quality people in all of those religions.
Problem is fanaticism and religion generally go hand in hand and I would like to think my God wouldn’t want me to kill anyone for any reason, no matter how much some may deserve it.
(side rant jew and muslim show that they need to be capitalized by the word spellcheck and Christian auto capitalizes but god shows no spell check error if not capitalized. Weird huh?)
Back on topic,
I do despise the idea that the US has dropped everything at times to bailout our Israeli buddies just because the bible says they are the golden child.
I do despise the way Palestinians are treated by the Jews, hell I saw a video where cattle are treated better. LOL
I don’t quite know about the idea of the Jews being behind the US catching so much miscellaneous flack as of late though, truth told I really haven’t done any research on it.
But I do believe the US has been Israels patsy for some time.
And what if we did let the jews slip into the jaws of the muslims wouldn’t that bring about the Christian Armageddon (Harmageddon) anyway? Christians could be closer to their God then. Closer to God is better, am I right?
One thing I do know is there is a lot of gold and power to be made off of war. Just as long as you aren’t one of the people wearing a uniform. Weapons of war are costly. And the power vacuum will always need an operator.
Either way I applaud both of you. You both make my brain jog! It’s the only thing on me that has gotten more healthy (or better) over the years.
I also do believe when our numbers get too great wars will be made to bring the count down to a manageable level as well as building divisions between countries (more patriotic hatred) And if you oppose your countries war with the Axis of Evil you are branded a traitor.
I never had a problem with an Iraqi, Iranian, Afghan, Japanese Etc. and I’m sure for the most part they never had a problem with me. So why are we trading bullets when we could be happy at home?
A poster in this thread was speaking of the things the Jews have done for America, and you are 100% correct Hollywood couldn’t exist without em and we would have no banks to loan us money. Think of actors and their last names or the ones who openly push being Jewish on you. But Goldman is a Canadian name correct?
Some will say that not all Jews are evil and you are correct.
Not all masons are evil, I’m sure there has to be one out there but I am a Mason and I don’t have access to Masonic gold though. Just so you know I’m not privy to any plan to rule the world.

This ties in with the Haliburton role in the BP oil spill.

David J. Lesar, CEO of Haliburton, has also spent time as an accountant at Arthur Anderson, convicted of shredding Enron evidence

www.commondreams.org...

So even though Cheney is no longer the Haliburton CEO it's still business as usual with the new CEO.

Anyone have any more information on David Lesar I'd like to know for my research into the BP/Haliburton oil spill.

You have been taken in by the propagandists, or are a propagandist.

abcnews.go.com...

The much-maligned defense contractor Halliburton is moving its corporate headquarters from Houston to Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.

As Mosques rise across Europe and European politicians continue to give them special privileges, you should as yourself why.

The Palestinians live the way they do because they are attempting to engage in conquest by birth rates. The goal of Palestinians is to crowd Jews out of Israel. Muslims in Europe are attempting to do the same thing. This is horrible and disgusting.

As the oil runs out in the Middle East, things will get far worse as the desperation sets in.

The oil cabal, with its greed has done such horrible damage to our planet, it literally is criminal.

You really don't have a clue who is creating all the problems, but all you have to do is follow the money.

Originally posted by filosophia
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you can not deny the 5 dancing Israelis moments after the WTC was hit. Nor can you deny your overuse of ad hominem attacks such as "idiot" and "retard"

I was gonna add some content into the OP about
9/11 but decided to leave it out due to the stereo-
typical mindset of truthers (which I am one, lol).

Anyway, I found some web evidence that the
super-thermite used on 9/11 actually was made
in a weapons lab in Israel.
But I didn't include it cuz it didn't happen under
this administration. Was trying to stay consistent

Originally posted by warpcrafter
Most of the semitic jews were killed by the Nazis. The vast majority of jews in Israel now are Khazars, from eastern Europe. The only remaining semitic people are the Palestinians. It's the Israeli's who are the anti-semites. Of course, they're pretty much anti-everything except for their own corrupt interests.

Ati everything that isn't Talmudic.

The Khazar's took the Talmud as their own, when in fact, it is not. It is this book that they follow and teaches them that they are " Gods Chosen".

The Babylonian Talmud, Sole Authority

You may ascertain by turning to top Jewish authorities today that the Babylonian Talmud, the written form of the Tradition of the Pharisees, is the sole authority of the so-called "Jewish" religion, or Judaism.

Rabbi Louis Finklestein was chosen in 1937 by the Kehillas (Jewish communities) of the World as one of the top 120 Jews best representing "a lamp of Judaism" to the World, together with Maxim Litvinov (Finklestein), the Communist Commissar and bank robber terrorist; atheist communist Albert Einstein; those indefatigable Marxist reds, Harold Laski and his friend Felix Frankfurter (U.S. Supreme Court Justice) who shared honors with Rabbi Finklestein and others. Finklestein has long headed the Jewish Theological Seminary of America, with branches in New York and Los Angeles. In his two-volume work "The Pharisees." Rabbi Finklestein writes:

Pharasaism became Talmudism … But the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered. When the Jew … studies the Talmud, he is actually repeating the arguments used in the Palestinian academies. From Palestine to Babylonia; from Babylonia to North Africa, Italy. Spain, France and Germany; from these to Poland. Russia and Eastern Europe generally, ancient Pharasaism has wandered. (See Exhibit 1, Exhibit 2, and Exhibit 3 herein.)

In Rabbi Finklestein's history of the Jews, he states:

The Talmud derives its authority from the position held by the ancient academies. (i.e. Pharisee) The teachers of those academies, both of Babylonia and of Palestine. were considered the rightful successors of the older Sanhedrin . . . At the present time, the Jewish people have no living central authority comparable in status to the ancient Sanhedrins or the later academies. Therefore, any decision regarding the Jewish religion must be based on the Talmud as the final resumé of the teaching of those authorities when they existed.
[page 2] (The Jews — Their History, Culture, and Religion , Vol. 4, p. 1332, Jewish Publication Society of America, 1949).

"The Talmud: Heart's Blood of the Jewish Faith," was the heading of a November, 1959, installment of a bestselling book by the Jewish author, Herman Wouk, which ran serially in the New York Herald-Tribune.

To quote:

The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs or ceremonies we observe — whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform or merely spasmodic sentimentalists — we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.

This passage was taken from the book by Elizabeth Dilling "The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today"

For further reading THE JEWISH RELIGION Its Influence Today Formerly Titled THE PLOT AGAINST CHRISTIANITY

Sample passage from the book,

Talmudic Anti-Christianity The ultimate object of hatred in Talmudic Judaism is Christ, and the targets of Talmudic hatred are not just Gentile non-Jews, "the people who are like an ass — slaves who are considered the property of the master" (Talmud, Kethuboth 111a). Of these non-Jews, the Christians are most insanely hated and loathed because their doctrines are the opposite of every Talmudic doctrine. They rank not just as animals, like the rest of non-Talmudic humanity, but almost as vermin, to be eradicated. Language in the Talmud is virtually exhausted to find foul and hated names for Christians. Min (plural Minim) is used throughout the Talmud as a term to designate Christians. In the "Shemoneh Esreh," or 18 Benedictions, the word has been changed from time to time as wary non-Jews become aware of its meaning. Note at the left column of Exhibit 284 that "Zaddukim" was substituted, and "Apikoresim." In the right column of Exhibit 284 we see "Epicureans" substituted by Maimonides (a Talmudic pillar). Reference is made to uncensored Talmud editions of Berechoth 28b (left column, same Exhibit), Sanhedrin 27a, Horayoth 11a, and Gittin 45a. The Berechoth statement reads: "The benediction relating to the minim was instituted in Jabneh [Palestine] after the rest." The harangue goes on to decree vengeance against anyone leaving out the benediction against the minim, "because we suspect him of being min." "The censored [ie. editions] have mumuar," says this exhibit from the Jewish Encyclopedia, instead of minim. And, in Sanhedrin 27a, mumar is used to denounce as wholly disqualified one who eats meat which is not slaughtered in kosher manner, thus showing "his contempt for the law" (of the Talmud). The Talmud Gittin 45b reference states that "a scroll of the Law which has been written by a min should be burnt." Distilled hate is the theme. [See Sabbath 116a] The Horayoth 11a citation from the Talmud (page 79 of the Soncino edition, not reproduced here), is another tirade against those who rank below "common people" — the minim. It cites those who drink wine dedicated to an idol, referring to Holy Communion. Christ is always the "idol" denounced by the Talmud, while real idolatry in regard to spirits, planets, child burning to Molech, Baal filth, are permitted in Judaism. [page 13] Present day Jews keep up a continual propaganda that burning anti-Christian, immoral or subversive books is the depth of bigotry, bias and intolerance. But the teaching in Sabbath 111a [correction: Sabbath 116a] of the Talmud is even cited in the Jewish Encyclopedia (under Gentiles), which holds that Christian books should be burned "without regard to the name of God appearing therein." (See Exhibit 273, right hand column.) Characteristic of charging as a crime against others what Talmudists themselves are doing, a Sanhedrin passage denounces Christ as a sorcerer (Talmud, Exhibit 76). It was to refute this Talmudic teaching of hate against Christ, that Martin Luther wrote his "Shemhamphoras" on the charge that Christ did His miracles by sorcery, using the Tetragrammaton, which, in some Talmud passages, He is said to have stolen and hidden in His flesh! Christ was amazingly correct in designating the Talmudic Pharisees as children of the Father of Lies. (John 8:44)

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The incident with the SS Liberty was an ERROR, what arrogance. That was cold bloodied MURDER. I really do think you need a reality check. What would you call the war on Gaza dropping in for a neighbourly Barbecue. Do you not understand the ten commandments given to you by your God through Moses? Please let me refresh it for you. THOU SHALT NOT KILL , that means even people you don`t like cos they are living on land you want to nick off them. THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOURS HOUSE, HIS FIELD HIS OX HIS ASS or ANYTHING THAT IS THY NEIGHBOURS. I watched the `war on Gaza` from day one right through to the end. the slaughter of defenceless adults and children, white phosphorus that was used caused such horrific burns that limbs had to be amputated cos that stuff burns through to the bone and through the bones. I watched the leaders congratulating each other after, I felt physicaly sick. They were laughing over a Job well done. Don`t anyone call me anti semetic. Anti murder of the innocent, now thats exactly what I am.

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I am a independent,fundamental baptist.I only read
the King James Version of the Bible.I do own a copy
of the Torah and have read some of it.
I will look into the link at another time,I have to deal
with the troll next.

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Now,I have a little time to answer you!
The youtube video I have had saved on my
computer for sometime.I must have heard
something that you didn't...
1.Coca cola,means she's a black christian.
Video on the side...You do check out what's on the side?
2.Israeli youth's saying,we killed Jesus and we're proud of it.
3.Sexual act remarks said against Jesus and your mother.
I had other videos where christians were told to get out
of Israel,repeatedly being told,this is our land,get out.

I would like for you to show me,on my posts,my retarded
claims that people in Tel-Aviv were happy after WTC?
I would also like for you to show me where I made retarded
claims that jews are conTROLLing my life?
When I have more time to waste,I'll get back to you!

Originally posted by SparKzzz
Can a pilot see and recognize a flag from such heights? Modern armies with modern technologies and equipment do such mistakes, and we're talking DECADES past. Start using your brain instead of your ass.

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If I remember correctly...Didn't they do low
flybys?Maybe when someone gets up from
their computer they will finally be able to
think more clearly.

Great controversial topic Boondock. These days, I applaud anyone who has the courage to simply pronounce the word "Jew" in polite conversation! Yes, the term can come up even naturally, and yet how many people might cringe, and even look over their shoulder if you mentioned "that word"? This says a whole lot I think, all by itself.

So many great comments on each side of the issue! First, I especially dislike those comments that immediately label someone as "racist", or a Nazi, just because they have decided to talk about the Elephant in the living-room. It's like trying to stuff a sock in their face. Sadly, this behavior is considered noble somehow, perhaps by the majority now, who would rather you never bring up uncomfortable issues to begin with. But I believe Boondock has a point, even if we may each have our own angles in interpreting what we see.

Cutting to the chase, are "the Jews" behind it all? My personal position is probably closer to Proto's. Yes, the Jews may seem like they're behind a whole lot, but the real question should be "who" is behind them, even if we can't quite put our finger on it? And it's worth considering, not merely as one of many possibilities, but precisely because of "who" the Jews are.

When we talk about "Jews", what do we really mean? Some may be thinking about a "religion", others will want to distinguish between Zionists, some may have in mind "God's Chosen", and still others are thinking about the modern nation of Israel. It can be confusing, and yet, we all somehow know what we're talking about. Because "Jews" are not these things primarily, they are most accurately thought of as a "NATION", or a "People", wherever they happened to be living.

Absolutely CRITICAL to understanding what we're talking about is the fact that Jews have an IDENTITY. It's so basic, so important to a proper understanding, and yet it is often overlooked.

Here's an example that might help. "Black people" in the US are actually a very diverse group. In the predominant (white) culture that considers "mulattoes" as essentially just black, perhaps it's not surprising, but blacks possess an "identity". We may talk about a "black subculture", but while there may be one, underneath that is IDENTITY, which all share, at some level. Watch an Eddie Murphy movie if you don't quite get it. Also, remember how many Blacks put their differences aside during this last historic election. Identity matters.

In fact, such a factor is so important to who we call "The Jews", because they also put aside differences, and close ranks, when one of their own is attacked. It's not necessarily a bad thing at all, but it could prove "useful" we might say, if someone noticed such a strong trait in a people, and then decided to perhaps make it work for them.

Even if you have not yet decided "who" exactly is behind it all, let's at least admit that "if" there was a very powerful, multi-generational group, the Illuminati (or whoever) out there, wouldn't it have made perfect sense to HARNESS the power of this people? Whether they be Khazar, or Habiri/Hebrew, forget that for now. The people who call themselves Jews today, are a very cohesive group, and as much as this is a strength, it is a tremendous weakness. Because, just as blacks have been manipulated (they just might be right about that!), so could the Jews.

A lot more to this whole idea, but I would suggest that things appear to be exactly as intended. Does it look like the Jews are behind it all? Could be what was desired all along. Do people already hate them? Seems pretty convenient, even for an eventual endgame, wouldn't you say?

JR MacBeth
MyBlog: Gathering Storms Ahead

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This is the best thread I have seen for a long time, peace and love be with you.

This is the worst thread I have seen in a long time. Since when did blaming all the problems in the world on a specific group of people stop being bigotry.