Graphic Video; Matador Gored through the throat during bullfight.

Bull fighting is a sick and disgusting sport,anybody that does this is inhuman,along that line so is dog fighting ,cock fighting,and we are suppose to be the intelligent one's makes me wonder sometimes

I feel that only the lowest rungs of human life abuse animals for pleasure.

It really gets me that the bull is dying before a matador ever steps foot in front of it...they need only weather the storm and the bull will die without any action from the matador.

Not only has the bull been stabbed in the heart before the fight, but I've read that it is also given a tranquilizer as well.

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Preparations for the Bullfight
The bulls are intentionally debilitated with heavy sandbags dropped on their backs.(2) A study conducted by scientists at Spain’s Salamanca University found that 20 percent of the bulls used for fighting are drugged before they step into the ring; in the sampling of 200 bulls, one in five had been given anti-inflammatory drugs, which mask injuries that could sap the animal’s strength.(3) One common—albeit illegal—practice is to “shave” the bulls’ horns by sawing off a few inches, which impairs their coordination.(4) According to one matador, some of the top performers may also “ask breeders to deliberately select placid bulls …. It’s the only way to sustain your energy for the duration of the season.”(5)

This is PETA crap.

I laughed out loud over the 'shaving the horns impairs their coordination'. I'm thinking of all those milk cows that have their horns taken off completely walking around like drunks. Not.
And if this 'practice' (not) was done just before they went into the ring - don't' forget - horns bleed when they're cut (unless burned directly afterwards) and it wouldn't be acceptable to a crowd.
If it happens?
There's no organized competition out there that doesn't have it's dregs and losers. Call this practice one of them if there is any truth to this at all - which I highly doubt.

And a 20lb sandbag dropped on their back? You're talking a 1500-3000 lb raging ball of testosterone! 20lbs is NOTHING to them. And of course PETA doesn't' state what it's for, but, oh well - It's a 20lb sandbag! OH MY GOD!

As for anti inflammatory drugs. They take away pain.
No cow that gets beat to it's knees before being brutally killed for your next hamburger EVER gets anti inflammatory drugs. They couldn't sell the meat for up to two weeks if they did.

As for asking for placid bulls? Again, I'm laughing out loud.
How is any bullfighter going to put on a performance (in other words keep his job and reputation) with a dud?

Not.

As for your other points about the pining of bulls before fighting?

Sure. They stick them in the thick fatty 'humps' above their neck and not just to debilitate.

But take from your notes what even occurs when the bull does weaken.

The matadors job is to put it out with one clean stab/cut to the vertebra.

That's a lot better than most of your hamburger bulls get - and dont' forget burger cows never get to fight back.

Edit to add: Another poster said bullfight bulls get 'stabbed in the heart' then drugged up before going into the ring.
What a farce. He/she must a read PETA too.

peace

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You make a very good point. What exactly is humane in this world? We are supposed to be intelligent and keepers of the world. How do we become so calloused and inhumane?

Sorry OP for being so aggravated by this post (good post), but animals are close to my heart. I am in no way trying to hijack your post. OP, my hopes are you are waking people up the injustice we bring upon animals in which we share DNA. Think about it.

Animals are proven to have feelings and abstract thought. I lived in a farming community and had my fair share of animals on my small ranch. Animals have feelings and are capable of LOVE and bereavement.

Edited for spelling errors.

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Originally posted by SyphonX
I don't know what it has to do with karma.

It's a 3,000lb animal with horns on the end of it, and all it does all day is get pissed off when something looks at it.

No magic here, no karma, no revenge. Just an idiot, jumping into a pen, with a fleshy bulldozer.

It's the same as acting surprised when someone dies in a Nascar race. A bunch of automotive high-speed death machines, traveling in excess of 200mph, bumping into each other on a small circular track.... Oh my, a crash, and someone died.. how shocking.

Doesn't it get pissed because its balls are tied tight???
Not at all trying to be funny - I'm dead serious.

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definitely agree with you... this is what happens when u step into the ring with a bull, that has some wicked horns. i also have to take the side of the ppl who participate in the sport and the ppl who watch this is a tradition for these ppl and only outsiders have the knowledge that this sport is just as stupid as NASCAR.

Originally posted by brilab45
reply to post by jasmine23

 

You make a very good point. What exactly is humane in this world? We are supposed to be intelligent and keepers of the world. How do we become so calloused and inhumane?

Sorry OP for being so aggravated by this post (good post), but animals are close to my heart. I am in no way trying to hijack your post. OP, my hopes are you are waking people up the injustice we bring upon animals in which we share DNA. Think about it.

Animals are proven to have feelings and abstract thought. I lived in a farming community and had my fair share of animals on my small ranch. Animals have feelings and are capable of LOVE and bereavement.

Edited for spelling errors.

[edit on 26-5-2010 by brilab45]

Oh no worries at all, I like to see a good debate. I get to learn from it aswell. Its important to hear both sides, right or wrong.

GOOD, one for the bull. Idiots parading around for entertainment. The rush of the thrill. Someone should poke him with a lance. Well now he knows how the bull feels.

This guy is running around like an idiot antagonizing an innocent animal. I hope he is humbled by this experience and isn't stupid enough to ever try it again. That's if he lives.

The video of the horse was most impresive! What an exquisite animal! Shame on the rider who would risk that horse's life. And not too bright to risk his own either.

People must learn to respect the animal kingdom. They were not put here for mankind to use in brutal sports. How barbaric!

We also need to find humane ways for treating the animals used for food. Animals are a blessing on this earth and should be treasured.

This whole thing just makes me wanna cry. How awful we are to the animals we think lesser than we are. I wanna curse and fly off the handle. But T&C's keep me in check. How about a simple EFF U Jerks!

While I believe every culture has a right to practice their traditions, I just have a hard time seeing how harming the bulls in this way, gives anyone a sense of pride in their country.

People need to stop thinking they are the top of the food chain and realize we're all here, on this rock together for better or worse. Every living thing should be treated with the same respect you'd expect to be treated with.

lol
This made my day. If people want to unnecessarily risk their lives in this fashion then who cares. The same can be said for things like airshows and nascar driving. Really, how can you have pity for people this stupid.

brill

reply to post by Survivorman

History of Bullfighting in Spain

The spectacle of bullfighting has existed in one form or another since ancient days. For example, a contest of some sort is depicted in a wall painting unearthed at Knossos in Crete, dating from about 2000 BC. It shows male and female acrobats confronting a bull, grabbing its horns as it charges, and vaulting over its back.

Bullfights were popular spectacles in ancient Rome, but it was in the Iberian Peninsula that these contests were fully developed. The Moors from North Africa who overran Andalusia in AD 711 changed bullfighting significantly from the brutish, formless spectacle practised by the conquered Visigoths to a ritualistic occasion observed in connection with feast days, on which the conquering Moors, mounted on highly trained horses, confronted and killed the bulls.

As bullfighting developed, the men on foot, who by their capework aided the horsemen in positioning the bulls, began to draw more attention from the crowd, and the modern corrida began to take form. Today the bullfight is much the same as it has been since about 1726, when Francisco Romero of Ronda, Spain, introduced the estoque (the sword) and the muleta (the small, more easily wielded worsted cape used in the last part of the fight).

We'll I guess you can thank/blame Mr. Francisco Romero for allowing us to view these estoque's being used today.

While bullfighting is a sport and people disagree on it. Would you say the same for fishing?

I know there are differences in these too. But I'd really like to hear some thoughts.

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I'm having difficulty following your digressive reply.
Please explain.

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For one thing a person is not stabbing at a fish,until it bleeds to death, when you hook a fish and take out the hook it is more likely to live and go back in the water and live another day,the bull does not have that same option it dies period,I think we should go back and take some lessons from the native americans,who thought nature and animals were sacred,they only kill to eat and have clothes,animals are not here for our entertainment,take the case of the orca whale at seaworld who kill the trainer,animals are wild that's their nature,we are human are suppose to be,what is our nature?

Im glad to see a bull kicking some ass! I wonder why this "sport" hasnt been outlawed years ago? Anyways the bulls they fight are kind of on the small side if you wanna act like your tough atleast fight a real bull I've seen bulls in the American circuit that could most likely wreck both that bull and the matador at the same time. Im in no way shape or form tolerant of abuse of any creature but if your trying to be big and bad go after the big and bad.

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Funny you should mention "ass kicking" While it may not be kicking, The bulls sure do seem to know a better approach.

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O_O hate to say it, but he got what he deserved. Bulls have souls therefor have energy. Karma must have unleashed years of patience within that very moment.

I always root for the bull.

Is it just me or does it appear that the bull is looking at/recognizing someone behind/near the camera operator right before the goring?



Not trying to be overtly conspiratorial, but at first glance I could swear the bull was reading some sort of unseen communication from someone behind and to the left of the camera.

You definitely see the bull's attention shift for a brief moment.

Animal trainer perhaps?

That coincidence just struck me as somewhat uncanny.