Aliens already on Moon?

Afternoon,

I have been looking at the various accounts and evidence to suggest that we were warned off the moon in the original 1969 mission (with the studio in the Nevada desert being used to film the 'public' version of the events).

I was looking at a site which claims to have leaked transcripts of conversations between the astronauts talking in code about what they really saw while up there.

www.ufos-aliens.co.uk...

These were supposedly taken from the out of print book "Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon" by Don Wilson (Dell, 1975). I find these very interesting and show a viable reason why there have been no further manned missions to the moon since Apollo 17 in 1972, despite the technology we have available today.

Does anyone else think that there may be some credibility and truth with regards to these transcripts? Or know any more info about them?

Sorry if this has been done before, it is a subject which i am fascinated by and spend many nights in the pub talking about!

reply to post by KingDoey



If Aliens did ever visit our planet I would imagine they would leave a message on the moon knowing that mankind would have to progress a great deal to ever reach or comprehend it.

Wouldnt it be cool if we found something man made on the moon from a previous epoch like a "We were here" sign?


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reply to post by KingDoey



Nice post. If this is authentic then all I can say iw WOW. Just the thought of the Apollo astronauts seing and talking about it is amazing. I wonder if this may be a reason that we haven't gone back to the moon. Even if this is not authentic it still is an interesting read. Don't get me wrong I am not saying this is fake or real it just makes you wonder what if.

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


Thats precisely what i think, its hard to say either way, but is makes you think what if?....

I like the idea that the missions succeeding Apollo 11 were 'quick trips' to keep up public appearances.

reply to post by Shadow Herder


I suggest that you rent 2001:A Space Odyssey (sic)
Or read some Arthur C Clarke!

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[edit on 26-5-2010 by OldDragger]

Originally posted by KingDoey
I was looking at a site which claims to have leaked transcripts of conversations between the astronauts talking in code about what they really saw while up there.

The problem with codes is that you can find them anywhere if you look hard enough (or really WANT to find something).

I find these very interesting and show a viable reason why there have been no further manned missions to the moon since Apollo 17 in 1972, despite the technology we have available today.

Many people would say discontinuing the moon missions was about money.

I am not necessarily one of those people, just pointing these things out.

You bet something is going on.....

As someone said...it didn't take long that every discovered country by the west was invaded a few years after the discovery. So why stop going to the moon?

We never went in the first place
There is nothing for us there
We were warned off
And......you tell me...

What I find odd is....in all the transcripts (that they've denied and/or explained away with rubbish) the most important one of all (Apollo 11 where they claim there were other 'space-crafts') has no ownership to that line!
All if not, most of the transcripts were quoted by specific astronauts.
But not that one. That quote is generalized by saying "Apollo 11" said it.

Here's the transcript:

According to Otto Binder, who was a member of the NASA space team, when the two moon-walkers, Aldrin and Armstrong were making their rounds some distance from the LEM, Armstrong clutched Aldrin's arm excitedly and exclaimed:


Armstrong: What was it? What the hell was it? That's all I want to know!"
Mission Control: What's there?... malfunction (garble) ... Mission Control calling Apollo 11 ...

Apollo 11: These babies were huge, sir!... Enormous!... Oh, God! You wouldn't believe it! ... I'm telling you there are other space-craft out there ... lined up on the far side of the crater edge! ... They're on the Moon watching us! ...


Now my question is; was that paragraph ever linked to a specific astronaut at first (and perhaps, changed so to avoid questions later on)?

reply to post by One Moment

No, it wasn't. It is a complete fabrication.
"Mission Control calling Apollo 11". Right.

Look for a single example of that verbiage being used in any communication, you won't find it. The only voice protocol is, "Apollo 11, Houston". That's it, not "Mission Control", not "calling". That's something you would hear from these guys:


And while you look at the real transcripts, try finding any evidence that Otto Binder ever was a NASA employee. You won't find that either, he wasn't.
en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 5/26/2010 by Phage]

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by One Moment

 

No, it wasn't. It is a complete fabrication.
"Mission Control calling Apollo 11". Right.

Look for a single example of that verbiage being used in any communication, you won't find it. The only voice protocol is, "Apollo 11, Houston". That's it, not "Mission Control", not "calling". That's something you would hear from these guys:


And while you look at the real transcripts, try finding any evidence that Otto Binder ever was a NASA employee. You won't find that either, he wasn't.
en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 5/26/2010 by Phage]

Hey, I'm not disagreeing withcha at all. That fact that there's no ownership to the CLASSIC line makes me suspicious about many things.

Was it a cover-up?
Was it a slip-up?
Was it (like you said) a fabrication?

So many secrets. So little time.....

Just strange. And thanks, I'll check into this Otto Binder.

reply to post by One Moment

I know.
I didn't mean it to sound like a challenge. Just as a suggestion for an avenue of research.

Aliens ( to the moon) HAVE been there without doubt.
That would be....us!

Also found this:

www.youtube.com...

The speech by Neil Armstrong on the 25th Anniversary of the Apollo 11 Landings.

"There are great ideas undiscovered; breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers"

Could this be related to what he saw on the moon? Maybe advanced technology?

reply to post by KingDoey


If aliens are visiting us (as I believe), then they would probably have some bases to get raw materials they would need. The Moon is full of such materials. They could have a few bases there, but I do not know if they would of warned the Earth to stay away. The would probably have the bases hidden away in the crater, knowing that we would soon be visiting the Moon with our developing technology.

reply to post by KingDoey

No. It's related to inspiring a group of students to continue the exploration of space.

Thank you, Mr. Vice President, Mr. President, members of Congress, fellow astronauts, ladies and gentlemen.

Wilbur Wright once noted that the only bird that cold talk was the parrot, and he didn't fly very well. So I'll be brief. This week America has been recalling the Apollo program and reliving the memories of those times in which so many of us here, colleagues here in the first rows, were immersed. Our old astrogeology mentor, Gene Shoemaker, even called in one of his comets to mark the occasion with spectacular Jovian fireworks. And reminding us once again of the power and consequence of celestial extracurricular activities.

Many Americans were part of Apollo, about one or two in each thousand citizens, all across the country. They were asked by their country to do the impossible--to envisage the design and to build a method of breaking the bonds of earth's gravity and then sally forth to visit another heavenly body. The principal elements--leaving earth, navigating in space and descending to a planet unencumbered with runways and traffic control--would include major requirements necessary for a space-faring people.

Today a space shuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased our knowledge of our universe a thousand-fold.

Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers. There are many places to go beyond belief. Those challenges are yours--in many fields, not the least of which is space, because there lies human destiny.

Source



[edit on 5/26/2010 by Phage]

In the conversation where they mention the word "Condorcet", it's not a code, but rather a crater -- or a series of craters. Each of the satellite craters around the main Condorcet Crater has been designated with a letter -- "Condorcet A" for example. "Condorcet Hotel" is the crater named "Condorcet H".

The person doing the talking was Ronald Evans, the Command Module pilot who stayed in orbit and did not walk on the Moon (hence the fact that he could see Condorcet crater.)

There are other very mundane explanations for other conversations, such as the word "dome" is a geological term -- it doesn't always mean "artificial building".

IU'm sure a lot of the words they used were "codes" -- or at least names they give to some objects, places, and equipment to quickly identify them. However, these astronauts are MILITARY people, so of course they will substitute simple and "odd" words as identifiers. However, that does not mean they are doing it to "hide the truth" .


[edit on 5/26/2010 by Soylent Green Is People]

Well my take on the moon and the last mission,is why if they have no interest in the moon anymore why spend millions of dollars sending a high power rod to crash into the moon to see if there is water on the moon,what was the real reason for that?It is not going to help us at the present moment even if there was water,so not unless they were trying to get rid of something up there,it seemed pointless,when they could spend the money on world hunger

Originally posted by jasmine23
Well my take on the moon and the last mission,is why if they have no interest in the moon anymore why spend millions of dollars sending a high power rod to crash into the moon to see if there is water on the moon,what was the real reason for that?It is not going to help us at the present moment even if there was water,so not unless they were trying to get rid of something up there,it seemed pointless,when they could spend the money on world hunger

To keep up public appearances maybe?

With todays technology we should have colonies on the moon, research centers, drilling operations to search for raw materials, even hotels!!!
I remember reading about the latter in the paper several years ago, but nothing ever materializes...

I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of this with all this "he-said/she-said"......and all the "this is what I meant when I said that" (like the Santa Claus statement) explanations.

What I find fascinating is Ingo Swann.
Swann helped develop the process of remote viewing at the Stanford Research Institute in experiments sponsored by the Central Intelligence Agency.


Check him out. He's remote views 'people' on the dark side of the Moon who are mining. Humans and off-world entities.

I HIGHLY recommend reading/watching or listening to Ingo Swann.
(side note) I recently sold a $18.99 book of his called Penetration for $200.00 so.....he's got a lot of credibility!

I think some how all the returning astronauts became brainwashed hence why so many can't recall their time on the Moon. (I think there's been 10 or 12?)
That's my opinion and I won't waiver on it so, please don't bother challenging me. Again, that's just my opinion.

Peace

[edit on 26-5-2010 by One Moment]