'Do you want to grow up to be terrorists?': U.S. soldier under investigation for 'disgraceful' F

'Do you want to grow up to be terrorists?': U.S. soldier under investigation for 'disgraceful' Facebook video of Iraqi children

www. dailymail.co.uk

A U.S. soldier is under investigation for posting a ‘disgraceful’ video on his Facebook page, taunting Iraqi children by asking if they are gay, engage in sex acts and if they would grow up to be terrorists.
The two young boys did not appear to understand the questions, which were in English, but smiled at the camera and at times flashed the ‘thumbs up’ gesture during the 30-second clip.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Unbelievable, disgusting, appaling, immoral any of these words are apt to describe this behavior on the part of this soldier. While the vast majority of these soldiers are most likely good, decent people (I like to give folks the benefit of the doubt) it's garbage like this that will irreparably damage the reputation of the United States on a global scale.

Not to mention the fact that the occupation was launched on false pretenses (no WMDs) through the Bush Doctrine's pre-emptive strike philosophy, which is classified as a war of aggression and as such is illegal in international law. Anything associated with Dubya is already on a shaky foundation globally. I'm sure they realize this at the Pentagon so I'm guessing this guy will be made an example of.

www. dailymail.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

reply to post by dontblink


That’s all they did??? We use to jive back and forth with these kids all the time... This isn’t a criminal act, this happens every day. It’s not like he was torturing them.... Stealing, Raping, Etc.etc. He made some distasteful remarks, oh well nothing to see here.

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by dontblink

 

That’s all they did??? We use to jive back and forth with these kids all the time... This isn’t a criminal act, this happens every day. It’s not like he was torturing them.... Stealing, Raping, Etc.etc. He made some distasteful remarks, oh well nothing to see here.

As much as I hate to say It I have to agree here. This while contemptible is no big deal in the big picture. Its definitely not worth destroying someones life over.

reply to post by poedxsoldiervet


Yeah, I understand that nothing criminal went on in the video. I also understand that one of the ways you win a conflict is to win the hearts and minds of those aborad and at home. People are going to use this as more ammunition and as cases build up the rational for the occupation will be less and less adequate. It's not that what the soldier did is so wrong, he's fooling around with some kids and it's not a big deal, it's the perception. People will paint this with broad brush strokes to further demonize all American troops.

reply to post by ISHAMAGI


Should the soldier get some sort of punishment? I think he should, get at least an Admin Article 15, thats nothing its like a detention 7 days extra duty and 7 days restriction. I dont think he should be hammered, also someone needs to smack him for posting the damn video on facebook.

reply to post by poedxsoldiervet


Yeah, he should really be disciplined for sheer stupidity, for posting it on Facebook in the first place, rather than for his actions (which happens everyday). I'm not up on US Armed Forces law, but here in the UK, he'd be brought up on charges of bringing the Forces into disrepute. He shouldn't lose his job or anything, but he should certainly get a punishment he won't forget in a hurry.

Rightly said nik1halo.

To be honest, he's representing the whole Force and not doing it very well. Personally, I believe that people like him are one of the probably reasons why people grow up to be terrorists. I'm not saying he is, he's just one of the factors. Emotions such as hate could arise from the children, and they are to be honest, very influenced at that age.

are you serious?

as if none of you have ever messed with your little niece/nephew/brother/sister/kid by asking them questions they will surely not understand, to see their confused reaction?

this is an age old upperhand one gets when they learn a new provocative vocabulary word...

example:

kid a: "Hey are you a virgin?!?!?!!"

kid b: "whats a virgin?"

kid a: "you HAVE to answer first!!!!"

kid b: "no"

kid a: "EEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW"





comes as no shock to me this soldier still has the mindstateof a 6 year old. but i wouldnt move us to defcon 5 or anything over it.....

Oh my, he said something distasteful? Cry me a river, come on, that is all he did and members of the news media think they have a story here? They must be getting desperate, if I were the editor, I would have looked this report over and pushed it aside. Those Iraqi kids probably had no idea what the soldiers were saying to begin. I will admit it was in poor taste, but nothing to get agitated about. It is very insulting and disrespectful, but when did poor taste become a crime?

People insult each other everyday. Now, if this soldier did the unthinkable and unloaded on those kids after saying the remark, then we can get angry and have much to talk about. This is just some weak attempt by a reporter to meet their deadline, because they have nothing more substantial to submit. Reporters do it all the time. All in all, whomever said that remark in the video, and the guy who posted it online; both have a crude sense of humor. That is all I can take away from this story.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by Jakes51]

Another dem-lib (from Canada?) "trash the U.S. military" thread (check for the footprints I have in my signature).

These kids older brothers or fathers could just as easily be the ones planting IEDs.

Not really much to see here, eh?

Move along ...



[edit on 5/25/2010 by centurion1211]

reply to post by centurion1211


Thats a very racist thing to say.

These people should not even be in that country, but heck america can kill and torture any person they want.

reply to post by andy1033


And there it is the R word, do you not understand that no one care if you label them with that anymore? I sure as the hell dont, And I am sure Cent fells the same way.

The kid goofed up, he posted his video give him an admin article 15 and be done with it, stop looking for a witch hunt.

reply to post by poedxsoldiervet


I think you read to much into my words there.

I really do not care anymore for these vids as we have seen how these soldiers treat people while occupying there country.

Originally posted by andy1033
reply to post by centurion1211

 

Thats a very racist thing to say.

Racist? How?

You wouldn't know a racist if they kicked you in the a$$.

Go look up the definition of the word before you waste anyone else's time throwing it around.

Every one watch this . Man what a bunch of losers the only way to make them selfs feel like someone is to try and bring others down to there leavel.
yea I heard this kind of trash all through school geek dork and the others which are not typable.
grown men who never grew up and then we give these little boys guns???
nothing to see here yea its been my experience all thos like minded buddy's always backed up his bullying
yes this man would get along just fine as they yell crude remarks to the next woman who walks by .
these people really should make a im a loser club or a I never grew up club
Or I am still 11 club
what a MAN time after Time they show the world what A MAN they are send videos home showing how manly they are .
that boy is more of a man then any of them could ever be

reply to post by centurion1211


I'm not bashing the US military, centurion. Where do I specifically say that I dislike anything about your armed forces? To the contrary, I deeply respect your fighting men and women. I'm simply bringing attention to the fact that this piece received mild attention by the foreign press. Again, I have great respect for the men and women of the United States Armed Forces. But, individual lapses in judgement like this video being posted to Facebook are not going to help them win international support for the mission in Iraq when it's already on shaky ground as is.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by dontblink]

bull crap!
they wont the people to think the use gov has moraule. morarles.
I bet they can not spell it to...

Unfortunately judging by this post at the bottom of the source website some of the soldiers don't actually understand that just because something can be 'legal' or perceived as 'harmless' it doesn't make it morally right:

So what? The kids didn't understand him. Have any of you spent time in a desert warzone? Not much to do. It's innocent joking that improves morale and keeps soldiers from getting bored.

- D.K., NC, U.S.A., 25/5/2010 14:08

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

NONE of, and I strongly repeat that, NONE of the soldiers I know would behave like this. EVER

Its not even possible for them.


This type of crap is disgusting and really puts all of us in a very bad light.