Anyone watching the BP spill feed- confirm?

Looks like they are removing bolts from that blue canister thing. Alot of bubbles start coming out each time they are successful in removing one.

reply to post by hoghead cheese


I don't think most people realise the potential this has to become the worse catastrophe which will affect not only the gulf, but the Atlantic as well as other oceans if this is not stopped, and it doesn't seem they will stop it.

In another thread where some member claims "all the bad is behind us and only good is in front of us" i responded with the following.

posted on 24-5-2010 @ 10:32 AM

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Sorry to be a party popper but the tribulation hasn't stopped. We still have the BP oil spill which is getting worse and worse, the Obama administration advice to our Armed Forces is to get ready for a very possible confrontation with North Korea, not to mention the fact that the governments of the world, including the Obama administration, are implementing more draconian laws to suppress and control us. Not to mention that the economy is NOT getting better, and before it does there will be a collapse and you want to claim all problems are behind us?

This op is nothing more than the "desire" of the op to ignore being realistic.

Sorry but what I see are more floods, even a possible heat wave but isolated to one region but which will cause lots of problems.

The BP oil spill will only get worse for at least a few more weeks if not longer, and this will destroy ecosystems, there will be more ban on fishing spread to emcompass regions of the ocean where the oil keeps expanding into. You can say tourism goodbye for a while because of the stench from ocean animals and other biologicals which will cause a real bad stench in the gulf, and parts of the eastern seashore of the U.S.

The ramification of this spill are going to be more than the unfortunate death of many lifeforms in the oceans but i feel that this will precipitate seismic and magmatic events unless they can stop the oil, and gas from escaping, and i dont see that happening any time soon.

Do you realize that there could be evacuations from the affected areas because of the strencth from the dying biological organisms, and not to mention the fact that methane is probably one of the gases being released contituously from the hole, or holes and this will cause respiratoty problems and possibly deaths?

Anyone living close to the affected areas should start buying canned food, bottled water, any medicine that you need including vitamins such as vitamin C, aspirins/tylenol/advil, and as much as you can afford. If you don't have a barbecue I would buy at least a grill and some coal or whatever you use for a very real emergency.

I rather be a realist, than pretend "all the worse is behind us" and be caught unprepared.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

BP did a diservice to humanity because they decided not to seal the blowout when they could, because once sealed they would not have been able to open it again more so knowing they could not prevent another blowout.

Now it is probably impossible for anyone to stop this, and it will continue spewing oil, and gas until either the reservoir is depleted, or until the pressure stabilizes, and for either one it will take weeks, if not months.

What I said in the quoted text above unfortunately seems to be what is in store for us, and people living in the gulf, and on the eastern seashore should be preparing, more so those living in the southeastern states and living close to the eastern seashore. If this continues, and it doesn't seem that it will stop any time soon there will be evacuations in at least some regions being affected.


[edit on 25-5-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

Yeah, I saw it drop that bolt, too. Coincidentally, the robotic arm seemed to gesture in such a way that resembled a flipping of the bird.

But what exactly is happening? Is there information on what's being done right now?

Wow. If it's that much trouble getting the set screws out, imagine having to put them in. I am amazed that they can this kind of work a mile under water.

I don't understand why they can't repeat the process in reverse with the broken pipe. Maybe the end is to damaged to put a sleeve over it. or maybe they just can't see what their doing because of the oil spewing out.

[edit on 5/25/2010 by Sparky63]

Yeah this I could totally see ruining all the worlds water... As in Revelations.

It was super neat watching the robot switch the tool to its other hand haha. I could totally do that job!

In a way, if the worst does happen and they cannot stop this, and it does become the largest disaster in history, it could be a good thing. It could force the world to abandon oil completely.

I would like to see that but not at this cost to the environment and impact on peoples lives.. though I fear mankind as a whole will not listen unless something that big happens. Humans are stupid.

The PB Oil guys said in an interview.. if this does not work, then relief wells will and they seemed pretty sure about that.

If this really is part of one of the largest deposits under the Gulf, they may never be able to drill out a big enough relief well to take the pressure off of this one to plug the leak.

I am looking at several threads to get a full picture here. This one of course,

and this one : The Gulf Oil Disaster Video That BP Doesn't Want You To See - www.abovetopsecret.com...&flagit=575173

The second video is half way down the page called "PB Failed Booming 101" - its all about their failure to use equipment properly.. and states they have only had success with Top Kill once. A Must See.

And this one: Gas Leak in Gulf 3000 Times Worse Than Oil Leak
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Which in itself is a real shocker. The toxins in the gas are very bad and will deplete the oxygen for thousands of miles around.

Put it all together no wonder they wanted us not to see the live feed of the Top Kill. If anything goes horribly wrong this could be a far worse disaster than they are letting on.

I'm not a doom and gloomer but there is a possibility that this could destroy the entire Gulf region and effect the entire world.

This topic really needs to be kept on the front page where everyone can see/find it.

The consequences of this disaster will be are going to be beyond belief. People should be writing and calling their governors and representatives demanding that Obama take immediate action.

Originally posted by CmptrN3rd5
It was super neat watching the robot switch the tool to its other hand haha. I could totally do that job!

I agree. Not to downplay the severity of the situation but that looks like so much fun. I'd love to try it.

Originally posted by Takamuri


You guys just want BP to be screaming at the top of their lungs that they are sorry for this mess, and they have already said MANY TIMES that they are, but it isn't enough for you. You want to say that the governments response is inadequate, however, what do you suggest they do? They already have sent their best resources to assist in the matter. Kick BP out? The guys who's bread and butter is drilling and pumping these holes?



[edit on 24-5-2010 by Takamuri]

No. I want BP to face extinction. I want all of the CxOs to go to jail. I'd call for the death penalty, but people will say Im out of line. IMHO if you kill an entire ecosystem, and the livlihoods of thousands of people, you are much worse than a garden variety murderer. Yeah, I want BP gone, on a permenant basis, They can stuff their appoligies in a large dark hole. I know where to find one.

They seem to be preparing something and removing stuff. Who knows what they're doing right now. Is interesting as hell to watch, though. Going to be a long night watching what happens. That's for sure.

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"I'd call for the death penalty, but people will say Im out of line."

Not me. I agree with you, XigXag. BP has a record of exactly this- flouting laws/ rules (or requirements/ regulations) for the sake of higher profits. How MANY of their contractors have been killed over the DECADES as a result- let alone the environmental damage?
Spending the rest of their lives in prison (the people at the "top", NOT the workers or even lower management) is too merciful for these people. The guillotine would be nice, the firing squad, or hanging. Don't forget the government officials played a part as well.

Yeap and the plumes are blocking the cam at the worst times! lol I wanna see!!! Ive got ALL night!

[edit on 25-5-2010 by CmptrN3rd5]

Originally posted by Aliensun
reply to post by DogsDogsDogs

 

It doesn't seem possible to have an underwater explosion. To my knowledge, neither the escaping gas or oil will burn without the addition of atmospheric oxygen. Please correct my speculation if it is wrong.

If there was a hydrate pocket it can flash from a frozen state to a gaseous state very fast and the volumetric increase can cause an explosion with no heat or oxygen neaded. All that is needed is something to change t balance to start the state change (a small 1-2 degree temp change, and deep oil is usually hot) and then you have the hydrates going back to there natural gas state.

Regarding the "sinking" in the seabed & hoping someone can answer. If you are standing (or a chair or heavy driftwood, whatever) is sitting in sand & the water is washing around, the sand washes away & you can literally feel your feet "sinking" into the sand. If the oil & gas flowing out are creating current, I am wondering if this is why there are these depressions in the seabed.
(I strongly doubt that the hundreds of feet- if not a thousand or 2) of rock between the sea & the oil pocket is collapsing- especially so gradually. I think there would be a LOT more turbulence. just sayin)

Until you have the leak plugged, your going to have oil in the water.. thats a given.. but if I were them, I'd try using some huge fan on one side and a huge suction device on the other side to draw the upcoming oil away from where they are preparing the Top Kill tools.

This way they might be able to see better to get the job done. it seems the ROV operator is struggling at times due to the interference with the oil.

We should have audio with this feed. Listen to the guys in the control room talking or cursing..

[edit on 25-5-2010 by JohnPhoenix]

Originally posted by xynephadyn
Watching the BP live feed right now, and the ROV is doing a bunch of stuff. So this isnt the top kill yet, just preparation? BTW does anyone know what the top kill is? What it entails?

Edit: Im confused I heard on the news that they were doing Top Kill tonight?

[edit on 25-5-2010 by xynephadyn]

My only experience with top kill was a surface well and was a little while ago on a re-entry of a top killed well.

They pump a very dense fluid (kill fluid) down the pipe till the volume of fluid is enough to conter the formation pressure that is pushing the oil/gas up. Then you pump a lot of concrete on top as a plug. This keeps the gas from coming out. Over time the gas can start to get around the plug and seep up. Then you have to drill out the plug and start producing the well to keep it from leaking.

edit for bad grammar after a 14hr work shift

[edit on 25-5-2010 by exile1981]

reply to post by JohnPhoenix


I caught a glimpse of the rover using it's fan/ propeller to do just that a couple of hours ago. I think it was blowing oil off of the claws and camera though. This was just after it was engulfed by a huge cloud of oil.

The Blue part of the shaft there.. the tube on top of it looks like it's glowing yellow hot.. I didn't see this in the top kill animation. What am i looking at.. anyone know?

EDIT: Oh I see.. it looks like just a bright yellow pipe.. but the lights for the mechanical arms to see must be so bright, it lights it up.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by JohnPhoenix]

Looks like they are moving to another area with the UOV's. Some giant thing with flood lights and stuff.

I can't help but think of Revelations 8:8-9* "The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed."

*Not saying what is happening is biblical prophecy but it sure makes me think...what if this spill pumps out thousands of gallons for months...years?