Does God Have A Future?

Originally posted by sirnex
I would like to pose a question to all the Monotheists in this thread.


Why do you not give thanks to Ra every morning for bringing the sun back every day?

It's a serious question and I would hope those of you would have the maturity to answer with all due seriousness. If you can answer me this truthfully, I can show you many wonders about yourselves and reality.

Yes I ask the same too....

In the O.T. of the Roman collection of writings, called the bible today, it is written....From the Book of "MALACHI".... Ch. 4 v. 2. Quote;

But unto you that fear My Name,

shall "The SUN of Righteousness"
arise with healing in His Wings....... etc etc.

"The SUN of Righteousness" ???

J.C. is often referred to as "The SUN of Righteousness"

I think I know what you are getting at ???

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
I think I know what you are getting at ???

With all due respect and meaning no offense, I have no idea what you're getting at nor do I want to. To remain on topic I think you've proven that god probably does have a future for certain people because there will always be those who have transcendental experiences and subsequently form intricate and esoteric meanings to various religious texts.

reply to post by traditionaldrummer
I wrote a lengthy response yesterday and deleted it. The videos were enjoyable, I think I noticed something not really mentioned so far. The four speakers were debating 'God' without agreeing what their definition of God was. In that sense, each rebuttal and explanation was misinterpreted by the others due to their 'filter' of personal understanding.

The debate demonstrates how we all have unique expectations and definitions of God. The belief systems that appear to be consensual are *possibly* generally thematic. The arguments seek to be objective, but are rooted in our subjective understandings. If this is correct, the debate about God will never have a conclusion.

We don't know what happened in those first moments preceding the Big Bang and believers will seek to lever open that crack in our knowledge to locate their God. As you point out, these nooks and crannies, where God can abide, will have the bright light of science pointed at them. As each sanctuary is illuminated and explained, I expect they'll seek others and become ever more esoteric.

Maybe 10 years ago, I genuinely thought the 21st Century would see the death of religion and beliefs in God. Well, 10 years the wiser, I sincerely expect beliefs in a creator God to continue forever.

Originally posted by Kandinsky
The debate demonstrates how we all have unique expectations and definitions of God. The belief systems that appear to be consensual are *possibly* generally thematic. The arguments seek to be objective, but are rooted in our subjective understandings. If this is correct, the debate about God will never have a conclusion.

Agreed. As long as we have the inclination to make up our own definitions and qualities of deities belief can be sustained indefinitely. However, ever growing sectors of earth's populations are relying more on reason than faith and should the trend continue we may be for the first time in recorded history a world more dominated by reason than faith and belief.

Additionally, since humans require answers for mysteries, phenomena such as NDEs, transcendental experiences and other perturbations of consciousness may always be attributed to gods or deities. Science has addressed and discovered the NDE experience but for anyone who's gone through one, the scientific reasoning fails to sway the opinions of those who have experienced it.

Whether god has a future is a tough question that likely only time may answer.

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I have no idea what your getting at. I specifically asked a rather simple question that only required a simple "I don't thank Ra every morning because ..." type of answer.

So, why don't you give thanks to Ra every morning?

reply to post by sirnex


I apologise....

I thought my answer was very, very simple and Clear...

Many thank J.C., often referred to as "The SUN of Righteousness" for the New Day....


I was drawing a Parallel between "Ra" and "The SUN of Righteousness".


People unconsciously thank, for the New Day....


Imagine what would happen if the new day (SUN Rise) never came again, and it remained Night forever....

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I'm still not following you. Are you trying to take two different mythologies separated by thousands of years and make it seems as if it were one and the same?

Originally posted by Blue Shift

Originally posted by Dromadus
So what then would God be all about?

Paradox, apparently. Because why would an all-encompassing, infinite and infinitely powerful entity existing inside and outside time and space do anything?
So the paradox is fundamental and incomprehensible to human beings, and suggests that even if there were such an entity, it would mean nothing to our every day existences.

Well, yes and no. If God does something, that implies motivation which in turn implies personality.

If, Biblically speaking, God defines himself as "I Am That I Am" I interpret that to mean that he is the ability for Existence to Exist.

There needs to be no motivation, which is left to us spacial and temporal life forms of limited duration and no proof of continuation.

The only thing we have is self awareness (at least I have it, and extend to you the courtesy of assuming the same).

It is we who have motivation caused by the limitations of Space and Time and the mortality before us. Let us not make God into our own image.

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Still the Same Sun.....