Paul wins Ky. Sen. primary in test of tea party

reply to post by Just Wondering



I have to disagree. What kept him out of the White House was the media. IMO the media did its best to make sure that election was ALL about the 1st black/women president. And.. the country ate it up. Oh and making sure Ron Paul was an old kook with radical ideas.

One of the biggest red flags for me was when I looked up "WHO" was supporting Obama, Hilliary and McCain. There were lots of "BIG" companies giving huge campaign donations to all three. The one company that (sticks in my mind) supported all three was Time Warner Cable. Go figure. You know who was supporting Ron Paul? One name sticks out... Big Daddy Don Garlits.


Anyways great win for Rand Paul and I hope this will be the start point to REAL change.

Oh and if anyone that didn't follow Ron Paul's campaign, he was right. Either Obama, Hilliary or McCain your going to get pretty much the same as Bush. More war, more controlled governmnet, higher taxes... I could go on...


Bottom line, the BEST man for the job (hands downs) was Ron Paul. He had more experience in his little pinky than all three put together. To bad people believe some much of what they read and watch on the news.

Anyways I could go on and on with this rant, I'll stop here. Just ticks me off.

reply to post by bluemooone2


It was close though!












Only 24%!

Geezus...I don't know if any of you are watching Rachel Maddow right now...but she put a major hit piece on Rand Paul and is trying to paint him as a racist. Everyone question she has asked him so far is all about race.

Odd how she had always been nice to him before when she had him on...but now suddenly she AMBUSHED HIS ASS when he won the Republican Primary.

She's making him look bad....he wasn't ready for it....that's pretty obvious.

Wow...brutal.

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reply to post by David9176


I never watch PMSNBC, much less Rachel Madcow, but I will tune in to her 11PM re-run to catch that.

Rand is a pretty laid back, almost shy, type of guy. I think he'll have to toughen up a bit before he goes to DC.

reply to post by mishigas


It's on youtube now...and it's HARSH. I'll link up a thread...probably deserves one....

Here is the thread/vid:


www.abovetopsecret.com...

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reply to post by David9176


Thanks, David. Turns out I got preoccupied and missed the re-run!

reply to post by mishigas


haha...well i think it airs again sometime in the middle of the night. They replay her show twice each night I believe.

I don't watch her show much at all, but amazingly the contrast from the first interview and this one is big.

[edit on 19-5-2010 by David9176]

That was no ambush, that was your typical pandering politician backpedaling and avoiding. We see it all the time, it is nothing new. What does he expect, roses and wine? Maddow needs ratings, bam thank you Rand.

I LOVE how his jaw is tensed and he has to get in the dig thank you for the introduction. It was a two or three minute intro plenty of time for his handlers to come up with a plan. They did it was for his to not answer the question she asked.

I love how he kept drilling over and over I am not a racist and I do not support racism. Blah Blah Blah who cares she did not ask if you are a racist, she asked a specific question about his stance on something he went ON RECORD with my local paper as saying. Gah let me google it and quote it for all the lazies.

The C-J Dismal Choice Editorial

The trouble with Dr. Paul is that despite his independent thinking, much of what he stands for is repulsive to people in the mainstream. For instance, he holds an unacceptable view of civil rights, saying that while the federal government can enforce integration of government jobs and facilities, private business people should be able to decide whether they want to serve black people, or gays, or any other minorities. Quoted from article, EXACTLY what Maddow was drilling him on. He did the do SI do around that question six ways from Sunday.

He refused to give a straight answer and that makes him TYPICAL.

Why the back pedalling??

Welcome to Kentucky politics, Rand Paul.

I will give up tv if the ads get too nasty. I hate this time of year. Why is this pandering politician getting so much air time any way? He is nothing special!! He is just like all the rest, I love how quickly he fired off the prolife ad with the mention of GOD at the end. Dude I want to know how many of my fellow Kentuckians who are unemployed your political behind is going to put to work.

THAT matters.

Maddow just wants ratings why are we expecting anything other than a show from these national news shows?

reply to post by hotbakedtater


You want to know why no one wants to state their real positions?

Because PSYCHO FREAKS will destroy someone if they are NOT PC!

Rand made a mistake, he should have called Maddow a cow and bitch!

I think the next day Rand's ratings would have sky rocketed.

Frell the PC and the ASSHATS that try and use it.

As MLK stated, judge them by the content of their character, not by the POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and THE RACIST LABELS THAT are placed on them!

reply to post by hotbakedtater

Dude I want to know how many of my fellow Kentuckians who are unemployed your political behind is going to put to work. THAT matters.

You're right...it does matter. His answer will be cutting taxes and small government. We all know this. While I agree with him on many other issues, he is running for the state Senate seat of Kentucky...not President.

I don't agree with anyone entirely...and it's going to get FAR WORSE in this country economically than it is right now.

I don't think cutting taxes is going to fix unemployment...raising tariffs however will IMO. Unfortunately, those who want to do it are few and far between and the votes aren't there to get it done and likely still won't be after this year's elections.

People are just looking for a glimpse of something good happening HotBakedTater...people are angry...but they are tired as well.

We'll see what happens.

Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by hotbakedtater

 

You want to know why no one wants to state their real positions?

Because PSYCHO FREAKS will destroy someone if they are NOT PC!

Rand made a mistake, he should have called Maddow a cow and bitch!

I think the next day Rand's ratings would have sky rocketed.

Frell the PC and the ASSHATS that try and use it.

As MLK stated, judge them by the content of their character, not by the POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and THE RACIST LABELS THAT are placed on them!

This is not about PC.

Maybe he should not have pansy footed around the question, owned it, answered it like a man, because if you watch the video, he had an early advantage.

He caught Madcow off guard with the Boston deseg comment. She was so immature in her response, she refused to play along and churlishly demanded he get to the point. He SHOULD have continued to own the conversation after that clear early advantage but he blew it, somehow....oh maybe by NOT ANSWERING and owning what he clearly said, he handed all his power back to Madcow.

Anyway if he is smart he will learn his lesson quickly and it seems he could recover if he plans his responses properly. I want my representation (this is MY STATE I live here do you?) to be a real man and own his words and be firm in them. The back pedalling I saw and the avoidance is alarming if I were on his team or his handlers.

That was one HUGE fail, just like his typical pandering prolife ad.

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by hotbakedtater

 

Dude I want to know how many of my fellow Kentuckians who are unemployed your political behind is going to put to work. THAT matters.

You're right...it does matter. His answer will be cutting taxes and small government. We all know this. While I agree with him on many other issues, he is running for the state Senate seat of Kentucky...not President.

I don't agree with anyone entirely...and it's going to get FAR WORSE in this country economically than it is right now.

I don't think cutting taxes is going to fix unemployment...raising tariffs however will IMO. Unfortunately, those who want to do it are few and far between and the votes aren't there to get it done and likely still won't be after this year's elections.

People are just looking for a glimpse of something good happening HotBakedTater...people are angry...but they are tired as well.

We'll see what happens.

See my thing is I do not mind paying higher taxes in times of need because those lucky enough to keep their jobs, like me right now, should be more than willing to shell out for their fellow down on their luck citizen, what sucks is our stupid elected officials misappropriate the funds. But I will gladly pay more taxes for creating new jobs. We have a lot of hard workers in my state, and good people. We deserve the best but seem to always end up with some of the worst.

I am not tired, I wake up every morning excited about the future. So many things are happening right now as far as space and archaeology, and disclosure, and technology especially nanotech, and quantum science and cern, there are a lot of reasons to live.

I am also for doing away with welfare, I do not think some of my fellow posters realize we may have a couple of things in common.

reply to post by hotbakedtater


He should maybe get an account here to work on his debate skills.

This is the kind of thing that I despise. If you are going to have a stance, argue it. As a politician, that is backpedaling, sniveling, fail!

The people want someone that is not afraid to make their positions known.

The Administration now is beginning to look like a bunch of pansies.

What the hell did they become politicians for if they do not want to lead?



[edit on 5/19/2010 by endisnighe]

I'm not sure the "Tea Party" can take credit for Rand Paul. He predated them, and his winning IMO is credited largely to the fact that his opponent tried to attack him on some of his positions in TV ads and he underestimated the number of regular people who felt the same way as Paul and were waiting for someone to say it.

For instance, I recall a commercial airing criticizing Rand Paul with a sound bite where he said "Iran possessing 1 nuclear weapons is not a threat to our national security". Another one criticized him claiming that his position was to have US Trials for terrorists. And another I recall said something about him cooperating with Obama, and I think yet another criticized him for coming out against torture. With each criticism I liked Rand Paul more and more, and apparently others did too.

thehill.com...

Rand Paul leading in Kentucky poll By Vicki Needham - 05/30/10 02:59 PM ET Senate Republican candidate Rand Paul appears to have survived a rough foray into national politics, showing a modest lead in his Kentucky race, according to a poll released Sunday. The GOP candidate, son of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), holds a six-point lead -- 51 percent to 45 percent -- over Democrat Attorney General Jack Conway, about a week after making remarks about the 1964 Civil Rights Act, according to a Courier-Journal and WHAS11 Bluegrass Poll.

This poll was just was just released today. Six points ahead and I expect it will be higher as the race goes on.