Cya California, Hello Arizona. My Mancott of California.

Originally posted by ventian
I always thought that if I ever had to move, I would go to TX. Seems AZ is about two steps ahead of TX though. If the right things were to happen, I would have no problem going to AZ.

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Chuck, you are always welcome in Texas.

Walker, Texas Ranger, was a good show until discontinued, with filming done at the Las Colinas studios in Irving and throughout the state. I watched the filming of one episode when I lived in that area, and it was quite entertaining.

You know if you move here however, you are going to have to
resume the role. It will be a requirement.

Oh wait, you already live here. You must be his twin

reply to post by apacheman


Well,I learned something new today.

I thought as long as you had soil,water,sunshine and seeds,you could grow anything anywhere,but thanks to your insight,I have learned plants will only grow in Kalifornica!

The only reason that failed socialist experiment can produce all that you mentioned is because they "enslave" the illegal aliens who come to slave in the fields.

Have you seen where the majority live or the relentless hours of stoop labor they endure?

One of the owners of this site (SkepticOverlord) relocated from Texas to Phoenix,Arizona early this year.

If it is good enough for Bill,it is good enough for me.

I live in a farm community in California.When I came here 35 years ago it was a nice little safe community with well manicured yards of single family homes.

It is now nothing more than a barrio of multi-family casas and concreted front yards.

Most of the additions are not even permitted or structurally sound.

I am planning my escape from this dump soon.

Originally posted by apacheman

Perhaps it's because everyone with intelligence and beauty tend to think they can make it big in Hollywood, so we have a far-above-average population in terms of beauty, intelligence, education, and tolerance.

If the people of California are so educated and intelligent then how come your state is almost bankrupt? How come Californians keep electing people to state government that cannot or will not solve your state's problems (Gray Davis and Ahnold for example)?

How come many California schools have eliminated sports programs, art programs, even some education programs to make up for the budget shortfalls?

How come California doesn't have its own power grid and instead siphons power off other states (which it buys at outrageous rates)? How is it that a state with so much demand for energy is hampered by environmental regulations that make it diffucult for you to build more energy producing plants?

You have no more intelligent or educated people than any other state does, so I'll thank you to get off your high horse and come back down to reality. A turd wrapped in a pretty wrapper is still a turd. And California, right now, is a turd.

Well first of all, it's THEIR not there. Going by your grammar, I'm glad you won't be visiting anymore. I hope you enjoy all that money we send your way. www.taxfoundation.org... Here's to wishing California was its own country.

Originally posted by sos37

Originally posted by apacheman

Perhaps it's because everyone with intelligence and beauty tend to think they can make it big in Hollywood, so we have a far-above-average population in terms of beauty, intelligence, education, and tolerance.

If the people of California are so educated and intelligent then how come your state is almost bankrupt? How come Californians keep electing people to state government that cannot or will not solve your state's problems (Gray Davis and Ahnold for example)?

How come many California schools have eliminated sports programs, art programs, even some education programs to make up for the budget shortfalls?

How come California doesn't have its own power grid and instead siphons power off other states (which it buys at outrageous rates)? How is it that a state with so much demand for energy is hampered by environmental regulations that make it diffucult for you to build more energy producing plants?

You have no more intelligent or educated people than any other state does, so I'll thank you to get off your high horse and come back down to reality. A turd wrapped in a pretty wrapper is still a turd. And California, right now, is a turd.

Well I hope you're not talking about the Navajo Generating Station. California does own about half of it you know. As for your water... well it just so happens that the Colorado flows through Arizona. Don't take credit for mother natures work please. I will agree that our education does suck. How can we get the proper funding though when our politicians are robbing us blind and the rest of the nation takes our cash for their own projects.

So, like another poster said, I hope you're gonna boycott all the food we produce here. I hope you'll boycott your television and the theaters as well. I hope you boycott your computer all together, more than likely one of those pieces in your computer was either produced in or by a company in California.

reply to post by negativenihil


Thumbs up on that one.

One of the great things about the US is that you can vote with your feet.
I've always thought the gay marriage issue should be a state issue. What you don't hear a lot from the opposition of 1070 is the Supremacy Clause. That is because AZ can pass and enforce laws OF the Federal Government with it's own resources and with the Constitutional authority to do so.


That is why it is so troubling to me that Holder and Napolitano haven't bothered to read it. It is a law I must follow no matter what. Just because NV doesn't have it's own immigration enforcement doesn't mean the law doesn't apply.

If 1070 were going to cause racial profiling then the Federal Law it is modeled after should have been causing it for the last 70 years. Politicians always skew facts. Thus the media, together with the force that is government make sure the "facts" roll out the way they wish.

I believe we must resist this. We must and have the right to protect our national borders. It is among the most important duties of government. To provide for the common defense. I'm for marriage. All marriage, but that is an issue that must be worked out by the individual communities. Hence why I starred your post. There's a reason individual state business should stay that way.

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reply to post by Informyounow


Not illegally, just like the rest of the Country.

reply to post by negativenihil


Funny, I guess I just follow controversy! I am originally from Massachusetts and lived there when they were starting that whole movement and then voted it in. And you are correct, no one from the state wanted to hear anyone's opinion from outside of the state...I guess that just goes for everyone on state issues

reply to post by conspiracy88


Oh, I agree with you there. I wish California was its own country too. They could start a new race of human hybrids in southern California that are half human & half plastic...then they could compete with the all the other Californians for bragging rights for more possessions and on who should run the state, either in a materialistic way (south) or a sensible way (anyone else)...that would be great to watch it unfold. Oh the drama!!!

reply to post by TaxpayersUnleashed


If Arizona wasn't so dam hot it would be cool place to live .

I spent 5 years in Cali (when I was not in Iraq).

First was 29 Palms and all I can say is YIKES! LoL

Then I got to go to Oceanside, just north of San Diego. I have made several trips to Hollywierd as well as some other portions of the state. I have to say that Northern Cali is way different then SoCal and I do like the northern portion.

As far as SoCal, y'all can keep it. There is too many people, it costs way to much to live there and God forbid you try to get anywhere on time with the ridiculous traffic. Weather was nice and I learned real quick to stray off base only when I had to. I guess I did not fit in because I did not speak spanish and refused to learn it.

Originally posted by hiluxxulih
reply to post by TaxpayersUnleashed

 

If Arizona wasn't so dam hot it would be cool place to live .

AMEN to that statement
In the summer you go from your A/C house to your A/C car to your A/C store or your A/C building to work.
Remember, it's a DRY HEAT!

reply to post by Oneolddude


Oneolddude, You would be very welcomed in our state or Arizona.
I would suggest, Heber, Overgard, Sedona, Payson, Flagstaff or Prescott.
Not as cheap to buy a home as Phoenix, But, you can have the 4 seasons.
Large cities close by for ease of shopping and or medical needs.

If your as old as me, come in and have a beer.

Originally posted by Nemesis0123
"I've got some ocean front property in Arizona. From my front porch you can see the sea."

If you think California is third-world, you've never been to a third-world country.

Enjoy being landlocked in AZ.

Seriously, I hear they have really nice air there.

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I have to admit, with some of the land I have in Quartzite Arizona,
I think after the Big One Hits You, I'll have beach front property too
And by the way, I have lived in many 3rd world countries ( i won't mention them here, as not to offend any members of ATS) in my life.
I have to be honest, most of southern California reminds me of those counties.
I have to say, people who live in many third world counties don't have a lot of control over their every day life. But Southern California's I think have a choice on how your living conditions are and your choose not to enforce your American Culture. Instead you have taking the easy way out, No Confrontation with the person or persons that corrupted your once beautiful state.

We do have some good air here at the elevation of 3,500 feet and higher I think.
Thank You and come visit us sometime and learn what freedom feel like

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Ah, what a lovely topic to breed state-ism.
My state is better than yours!
Noo... my state is better!
Wah wah wah.

How about we just come together and quit trying to always add separation and bitterness towards one another?
Christ.

If you don't like a state, don't live there. The idea of boycotting when the economy is already in a horrible position is just ridiculous and childish, in my opinion.

But, humans just love suffering, don't they? Carry on!

Originally posted by guohua

Originally posted by Nemesis0123
"I've got some ocean front property in Arizona. From my front porch you can see the sea."

If you think California is third-world, you've never been to a third-world country.

Enjoy being landlocked in AZ.

Seriously, I hear they have really nice air there.

[edit on 5/18/2010 by Nemesis0123]

I have to admit, with some of the land I have in Quartzite Arizona,
I think after the Big One Hits You, I'll have beach front property too

And by the way, I have lived in many 3rd world countries ( i won't mention them here, as not to offend any members of ATS) in my life.
I have to be honest, most of southern California reminds me of those counties.
I have to say, people who live in many third world counties don't have a lot of control over their every day life. But Southern California's I think have a choice on how your living conditions are and your choose not to enforce your American Culture. Instead you have taking the easy way out, No Confrontation with the person or persons that corrupted your once beautiful state.

We do have some good air here at the elevation of 3,500 feet and higher I think.
Thank You and come visit us sometime and learn what freedom feel like

[edit on 18-5-2010 by guohua]

We have the dry heat here in Central Cali too. Often a whole month of 100+ degree days. I stay away from SoCal. It's just too crowded there. Someone gets a ticket on the freeway, and you get a two-hour traffic jam. Anyway, enjoy AZ. I've been there many times. In fact, every time I go to Laughlin, I cross the Colorado into Bullhead City.

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