News: Descendant of Jesus tries to break into Tomb of Jesus in India

Though I do believe Jesus spent his 'missing years' in India, that He has a tomb there I doubt just as surely.

He was crucified, He died, rose again.

If they've a 'tomb' dedicated to Jesus - and claim there are bones in it - they lie. But I'm sure they lie for a good reason - they need the money the tourism (might) bring in.

peace

This is most interesting as its my belief all the religions major players, ie Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, Krishna etc are all the reincarnation of the same enlightened being. Although its hard to get anyone to believe that, if you keep an open mind and learn all the religions its easy to see that the newer teachers are just carrying on the same teachings as the old but with a new spin on things which are more relevant to the times and locations they live in.
Its said that there were Buddhist monks at the crucifixion of Christ and they helped him heal after he was taken down from the cross.
Afterwards he and Mary took off to India and had their first son Jesus Jnr.

The next teacher to come along will bring together all the old teachings and have a new spin.
There will be a small group of followers whilst he/she is alive but again it will only take off after their lives have past on before the masses take on these beliefs as thats how its been in the past and why there are so many different religions in the world today.
I think its funny that if anyone came forward claiming to be such a person in the western world they will be committed to a psych ward before getting too far ( bi polar disorder is the belief you are experiencing delusions of grandeur ).
I believe the next teacher will come in a female form as the world needs to do a balancing act ( ying/yang ). Jesus is only a name for teacher therefore hes not necessarily coming back as a man. And shes not going to carry on the christian traditions.
It will be a new set for a new world

Originally posted by thoughtsfull

Historically, the RC church and power politics have messed up what we know, and what is the truth... so I do not know what to beleive in that regard any more. So the story bloodlines could be true,

Take my part of England, It is the oldest Saxon nation, which is shown in a religous historical context as evil Pagan's killing every single Briton they came into contact with.. It's also shown as the last Pagan Saxon nation to join the Roman Catholic Christian party in England.

Yet the archaeology clearly demonstrates that is a lie, Not only where those Saxons living in British communities from the earliest points in History but they were also buried in the manner of Christians, even when they started their own communities they where still buried in that manner.

So, IMHO, When you have 2,000 years of lies and manipulation to deal with it is hard to sort the truth from the lies.

You will find this interesting. From the geneaology site from the author Suzanne Olsson:

1. Jesus ~ Mary Magdalene

The sons were Jesus Jr. and Josephus.
The daughter was Tamar/Demara.

2. Joseph (2nd Joseph of Arimathea) King Arviagus of Silurian granted this son land in Glastonbury, at a time when Roman imperialism was on the rise and this led to many unions between the Druids, the Celts, and the Messianic line. Colchester was then called Camulod (Camulodunum) and is presumed to be the possible Camelot of later legends. Research indicates the British Isles have always been home to Jesus grandparents and parents, and they owned extensive properties in Ireland, Scotland, and Wales, and well into Egypt and the Holy Land. This son was well known as a wealthy metal trader in the tradition of his ancestors, like Old Testament Tubal-cain and Hiram Abiff. History records the stoning to death (figurative? Or literal?) of this son in AD 62 in Glastonbury, where he is buried.

What do you make of this? It appears that Joseph may have gone to England?

I found this interesting from Glastonbury wiki page on myths and legend:
en.wikipedia.org...

Glastonbury is notable for myths and legends concerning Joseph of Arimathea, the Holy Grail and King Arthur. The legend that Joseph of Arimathea retrieved certain holy relics was introduced by the French poet Robert de Boron in his 13th century version of the grail story, thought to have been a trilogy though only fragments of the later books survive today. The work became the inspiration for the later Vulgate Cycle of Arthurian tales.[16] De Boron's account relates how Joseph captured Jesus' blood in a cup (the "Holy Grail") which was subsequently brought to Britain. The Vulgate Cycle reworked Boron's original tale. Joseph of Arimathea was no longer the chief character in the Grail origin: Joseph's son, Josephus, took over his role of the Grail keeper.[17] The earliest versions of the grail romance, however, do not call the grail "holy" or mention anything about blood, Joseph or Glastonbury.

What do you make of all this? Very crazy stuff!

Originally posted by Aussie_Rock
This is most interesting as its my belief all the religions major players, ie Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, Krishna etc are all the reincarnation of the same enlightened being. Although its hard to get anyone to believe that, if you keep an open mind and learn all the religions its easy to see that the newer teachers are just carrying on the same teachings as the old but with a new spin on things which are more relevant to the times and locations they live in.
Its said that there were Buddhist monks at the crucifixion of Christ and they helped him heal after he was taken down from the cross.
Afterwards he and Mary took off to India and had their first son Jesus Jnr.

Weird i thought i replied to you.. i guess not. Anyways, I saw this and thought you may be interested. This is from the geneology from Suzanne Olsson's website at the very top:

Enoch (Enmeduranki) was seventh from Adam, and Noah’s grandfather. The pillars of the First Temple and the 12th dynasty Great Pyramid at Giza (Egypt) were both known as the ‘Pillar of Enoch’ (He who comes in peace) Enoch was considered the first multi-task genius of mankind.

When Solomon died, the ten tribes separated. Later in 721 B.C they went into Assyria (Iraq) and Media (Iran), except for the tribe of Dan which went into Ethiopia, Danmark, Scotland, and Ireland. (The Roman Emperor who defeated the Bar Kochba rebellion 1n 132-136A.D, also tried to conquer the Jews in Scotland.)

Abraham had two wives. From his first wife, Sarah, came Moses and Jesus. From his second wife, Keturah came Krishna, Zoroaster and Buddha.

Now i don't know if i believe all of this but wouldn't that be fascinating if it were true? I really don't know why people don't want world peace. They want to believe their religion is better than others and in the past it seems they want to kill people over religion.

Originally posted by MAC269
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Dear BeastMaster2012

All we know about Jesus is what the Roman Catholic Church want us to know.

They destroyed all other evidence in 325AD.

Wow, thanks for sharing that enlightening bit of news! Would you mind offering some supporting evidence?

Eric

sorry for my ignorance but, is Mary pregnant here?
files.abovetopsecret.com...
That "IS" Jesus on the left?

reply to post by togetherwestand


Hi,

I may not have enough words to accurately explain this, but, everything in life embodies energy, and these men were able -through very pure (much purer than anything known to man in modern times) wisdom and compassion- gain and attain or develop and with-hold a very large amount of energy from their surroundings allowing them to then guide or direct it outward in a way that could heal and/or repair other life forms (ie. Supernatural or Miracles), such as humans or animals or almost anything that also embodies energy (which is everything).

If your spirit and mind are ready to begin learning these "secrets" (rather truth's) of life, that those like both my Grandfathers learned and held so tightly by way of becoming 33rd degree Mason's, all you have to do is open your mind and begin to learn. Start with Buddhist teachings, a book called "Ways of Enlightenment", which will help direct you to the right path allowing you to better understand life, and then read Dan Brown's "The Lost Symbol" and that will explain how and why the West has lost this knowledge and what that knowledge is.

I come from a very distinguished (christian) family and chose to disavow (rebel) there (more material, corporate, ordain) ways as a teen and became a street hustler (ie. DDealer) living amongst the gangs on the southside of the Chi, until my Gfather died and i learned of his past which led me to also want to search for a better understanding about life. I am now in Cali going to college and I read and meditate in my free time instead of watching t.v. or hanging out. Basically, anyone can take advantage of this gift/curse called the internet and begin their search as well. We all embody "God", it is up to us to look past the lies and confusion to see the truth.

PS all religious books (Bible, Qu'ran, Torah), insofar as other Ancient Oriental and Egyptian philosophers teachings hold this truth, although I personally feel Buddhism is the clearest and most direct. Just start looking and don't let anyone tell you you're wrong! If they do, just look inside yourself and if your soul is ready you will know the answer.

mmm...

Originally posted by jazz10
sorry for my ignorance but, is Mary pregnant here?
files.abovetopsecret.com...
That "IS" Jesus on the left?

Yes, that appears to be a pregnant Mary.. with Jesus :-D

What are the scots trying to tell us?

Weird i thought i replied to you.. i guess not. Anyways, I saw this and thought you may be interested. This is from the geneology from Suzanne Olsson's website at the very top:

Enoch (Enmeduranki) was seventh from Adam, and Noah’s grandfather. The pillars of the First Temple and the 12th dynasty Great Pyramid at Giza (Egypt) were both known as the ‘Pillar of Enoch’ (He who comes in peace) Enoch was considered the first multi-task genius of mankind.

When Solomon died, the ten tribes separated. Later in 721 B.C they went into Assyria (Iraq) and Media (Iran), except for the tribe of Dan which went into Ethiopia, Danmark, Scotland, and Ireland. (The Roman Emperor who defeated the Bar Kochba rebellion 1n 132-136A.D, also tried to conquer the Jews in Scotland.)

Abraham had two wives. From his first wife, Sarah, came Moses and Jesus. From his second wife, Keturah came Krishna, Zoroaster and Buddha.

Now i don't know if i believe all of this but wouldn't that be fascinating if it were true? I really don't know why people don't want world peace. They want to believe their religion is better than others and in the past it seems they want to kill people over religion.

Wow that is very interesting indeed and pieces together so much. Thank you, I will keep this in mind as I study further. There sure are a lot of smart people on here!

[edit on 15-5-2010 by LifeIsEnergy]

Originally posted by BeastMaster2012

Originally posted by jazz10
sorry for my ignorance but, is Mary pregnant here?
files.abovetopsecret.com...
That "IS" Jesus on the left?

Yes, that appears to be a pregnant Mary.. with Jesus :-D

What are the scots trying to tell us?

From what I understand, is that Mary was in actuality Jesus' wife and therefore not his mother like many believe. In the picture of "the last supper", you can see Mary standing next to Jesus, and she looks about the same age or even younger than he.

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That would be Mary Magdalene, not Mary, Jesus' mother. (If you believe it is really a woman in The Last Supper)

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As far as i know, and most christians and catholics, there are two Mary's (actually there could be more, i heard that some think that in the new testament there are references to multiple Marys but i think they were one, it was the roman church that wanted to divide Mary Magdalene because she married Jesus..).

The first Mary is the mother of Jesus, the second Mary is the "prostitute" who could have married Jesus, which i think she did.

Mary Marries Jesus, who was born from Mary. Two important Mary's in Jesus life, coincidence i suppose?

Anyways i enjoyed your long post up there LifeisEnergy regarding the energy business. I think these great prophets are all the same, Buddha Muhammad and Jesus, i think they all became enlightened and ascended into heaven "Figuratively" and that we humans can all attain this.

I agree, i think that Buddhism is the greatest religion to attain enlightenment. There is no BS around it, the Christians catholics and muslims are trying to hide this from the people. They don't want people to become enlightened, they went us to be sheep in a way.

You are right about not watching TV and focusing on meditating and studying. I was once told that i am an "Old Soul" and you sound similar. California is a great place to live compared to Chicago. I wish you luck! We should chat sometime!

Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy

Abraham had two wives. From his first wife, Sarah, came Moses and Jesus. From his second wife, Keturah came Krishna, Zoroaster and Buddha.

Now i don't know if i believe all of this but wouldn't that be fascinating if it were true? I really don't know why people don't want world peace. They want to believe their religion is better than others and in the past it seems they want to kill people over religion.

Wow that is very interesting indeed and pieces together so much. Thank you, I will keep this in mind as I study further. There sure are a lot of smart people on here!

[edit on 15-5-2010 by LifeIsEnergy]

Remember that i just copied this from this woman's website. I personally believe that the bloodline story is true, but it could also very easily be false. I highly recommend looking into Freemasonry because i think they, like the Knights Templars, know the truth about Jesus. There are many connections between Freemasonry/Templars and i find it amazing that they use many Jewish references. You don't have to join the freemasons but you can read about them in books and the internet. There is something to Judaism that gave birth to Christianity/Catholocism and possibly Islamic religion.

If Judaism also gave birth to Buddhism, i would be shocked. I too am going to try to research this and if you find anything about this please let me know because i love Buddhism.

It is possible that Hinduism gave birth to most religions though, since it is the oldest religion. India is very special, just like Judea. I really find it amazing that the 5 most important religions came from 2 areas. They are all connected like you said. It is quite clear.

The internet is a wonderful tool for researching, like you said. What ever one may think they can find the answers. Really really amazing!

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Dear EricD

Here you are en.wikipedia.org...

Over 30 gospels were thrown out and I might add all copy’s were thought to be destroyed.

But they did their best but they didn’t get them all.

This was all brought about by the pagan Roman emporia Constantine.

HIS HOLINESS THE SHANKARACHARYA
(Supreme Spiritual Leader of Hinduism, the “Pope” of Hinduism) :

“Many important religious figures have come here to study at the Jagannath Temple, which is now 2,500 years old here in Puri, India. Jesus Christ also came here to study. Jesus, whom we call Saint Issa, studied the Achar Samhita —the Code of Conduct. He must have met the Shankaracharya of that time. Jesus studied our teachings of Truthfulness, Mercy, Charity —Serving Others, Compassion and Ethics. The fact that Hindus made a contribution to Jesus’ learning is not accepted by some people.”

I am rewatching the movie Jesus In India and this part of the movie stuck out and i wanted to share it with you guys.

The movie claims that this man, the "Pope" of Hinduism, very rarely if ever grants interviews. When he found out what the movie was about, the doors opened and the creator of the movie was allowed to interview him about this subject.

Now what i find interesting about this is how the creators of this film decided to show this interview. At the same time of the interview, they cut up the interview into multiple parts and put the following interview with a person connected with the Roman Catholic Pope (he is speaking of the Lost years and Jesus traveling to India):

MONSIGNOR CORRADO BALDUCCI, APOSTOLIC NUNCIO OF POPE JOHN PAUL II

“This is the first time I have ever heard about this, in spite of all my studies of theology. The public life of Jesus we know about from the evangelical books. All we know, we know from the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John – and from the 12 letters of Saint Paul and the 2 letters from Saint Peter. They comprise the New Testament—and there is nothing in them about this.”

The thing i find interesting about this is that the Hindus have 4 "popes" at the same time, one for the East, West, North and South. The first quote is from the "East" SHANKARACHARYA from Puri. The Roman Catholic guy mentions the 4 evangelists, whom pretty much speak for the word of Jesus.

Do you see the similarities to this? It could be a coincidence, like many things.

Anyways i mainly wanted to point out the interview with the SHANKARACHARYA which i thought was very special.

reply to post by LifeIsEnergy


Thankyou so much for the post!

and thanks beastmaster for the update, keep them coming, i'm learning more by the minute lol

reply to post by togetherwestand


I found this interesting. There were Jews in India as far back as 562 BC

en.wikipedia.org...

The oldest of the Indian Jewish communities is in Cochin. The traditional account is that traders from Judea arrived in the city of Cochin, in what is now Kerala, in 562 BC, and that more Jews came as exiles from Israel in the year 70 C.E. after the destruction of the Second Temple during the Exodus.[2] The distinct Jewish community was called Anjuvannam. The still-functioning synagogue in Mattancherry belongs to the Paradesi Jews, the descendants of Sephardim that were expelled from Spain in 1492.[3]

In 379 CE, The Hindu king Sira Primal who was also known as Iru Brahman, issued what was engraved on a tablet of brass, his permission to Jews to live freely , build synagogue, own property without conditions attached and as long as the world and moon exist.

This you will also find interesting. This is the supposed tomb of Jesus in Kashmir.

www.jesus-in-india-the-movie.com...

Note the feet carving that is in the building. It is currently being covered up by cloth to hide it so people can not see it. You can see that the feet have holes in them, could this be hints that it is Jesus who survived the Crucifixion?

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In the movie the local people say that it is not the tomb of Jesus, but a Muslim prophet. The creators of the movie point out a couple of things that support that it is a Jewish tomb and not a muslim grave.

The tomb is 100's of years older than the beginning of the Muslim faith.

In the muslim religion, you do not build an enclosed building around a tomb.

In Judaism, you build buildings in facing East-west, which is the way this building is built.

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There is a building not too far from this called the "Ancient Temple of Solomon" built in 54AD

www.jesus-kashmir-tomb.com...

This will do for now :-D

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hmmm... That does make sense! (about the Mary's) I think I actually read that before too, but again thanks for all these posts, they are very informative. Any time you want to chat just hit me up and im all ears, oh and most importantly thank you for your good wishes!

Remember that i just copied this from this woman's website. I personally believe that the bloodline story is true, but it could also very easily be false. I highly recommend looking into Freemasonry because i think they, like the Knights Templars, know the truth about Jesus. There are many connections between Freemasonry/Templars and i find it amazing that they use many Jewish references. You don't have to join the freemasons but you can read about them in books and the internet. There is something to Judaism that gave birth to Christianity/Catholocism and possibly Islamic religion.

If Judaism also gave birth to Buddhism, i would be shocked. I too am going to try to research this and if you find anything about this please let me know because i love Buddhism.

It is possible that Hinduism gave birth to most religions though, since it is the oldest religion. India is very special, just like Judea. I really find it amazing that the 5 most important religions came from 2 areas. They are all connected like you said. It is quite clear.

The internet is a wonderful tool for researching, like you said. What ever one may think they can find the answers. Really really amazing!

Well all this Freemasonry stuff is very interesting, I am definitely going to study more, although I feel the truth about Jesus can be found in different ways.

Yes from what I understand is that, Christianity(in turn Catholicism) and Islam both came directly out of Judaism, and Jesus was of Jewish decent who sought to free the ancient Israelites (blacks, maybe Egyptian slaves?) from Rome who had control of Israel at that time. Rome then paid a group of greedy Jews to kill Jesus. Following the "Last Supper", in the Bible it is wrote, "Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve. And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. And they were exceeding sorrowful, and began every one of them to say unto him, Lord, is it I? And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me. --Matthew 26" If just one of them (his disciples) were Jewish as he was, which I assume would be true, then this is further evidence of what I described above.

In the Buddhist teachings I have read, it is said that first Muslims and then Christians both pillaged India and stole 100's of Siddhārtha Gautama's (the first known Buddha) teachings, but it gives no mention to Jews or Israelites. It should also be said, that during Buddha's search for enlightenment he traveled far and wide studying from many of the great teachers of that time, although I don't know exactly who, and so it may be true he did speak and learn from some of the Judas's or Israelites. But I wouldn't say Buddhism came out of Judaism or Hinduism or any other Religion.

And to be technical, there were many "religions" before Hinduism, throughout Mesopotamia, Egypt and western Asia (India), such as Jainism and other more Pagan like religions, although Hinduism may have been the first widely known and practiced organized religion, this I am not confident of just yet, I have much more studying to do on this.

mmm...

ps. your last few posts are crazy! In a good way, lol. I will watch this movie tomorrow and comment on it then. Thanks!

[edit on 16-5-2010 by LifeIsEnergy]

[edit on 16-5-2010 by LifeIsEnergy]

Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
And to be technical, there were many "religions" before Hinduism, throughout Mesopotamia, Egypt and western Asia (India), such as Jainism and other more Pagan like religions, although Hinduism may have been the first widely known and practiced organized religion, this I am not confident of just yet, I have much more studying to do on this.

People can make an argument about how old Hinduism is. I believe the Indians are older than the Fertile Crest people. I have always been fascinated with the Fertile Crest region because that is where the "oldest civilization" is, but, i think that it is not true.

The Westerners (us) do not want to date sites older than 4000BC. We have a history of not wanting to rewrite history because it goes against our religion. This is where i have a problem with religion sometimes, it prevents people in the scientific fields that are religious to properly analysis sites that they discover and they don't want to give credit to another civilization.

There is evidence that there are older civilizations that are hidden underwater. There are two sites that go back over 9000 years that are underwater.

spiritofmaat.com...

news.bbc.co.uk...

Marine scientists say archaeological remains discovered 36 metres (120 feet) underwater in the Gulf of Cambay off the western coast of India could be over 9,000 years old.

The vast city - which is five miles long and two miles wide - is believed to predate the oldest known remains in the subcontinent by more than 5,000 years.

This discovery was reported in 2002. Why, in 8 years, have we never heard about this? Why aren't there 100's of documentaries on this subject? It kind of makes me angry...



The folllowing video is from Graham Hancock's documentary Flooded Kingdoms.



The other interesting site is in Japan. Scientists and Archaeologist think that it is NOT man made.. but i don't believe it.

members.toast.net...

Hope you enjoy the movie.. look forward to your thoughts.