La Raza Violent Threats Ignored, Tea Party Protesters Considered Dangerous Threat to America

Here's an eye opener for you. Quick summary on Mecha, Atzlan, and La Raza:


www.mayorno.com...

reply to post by manta78


La Raza has many arms, But just like islam the do have radicals. I compare the 2 because they are both movements to gain control over their lands they claim.

I will agree that the Majority of Illegals are here to provide a better life for their family. However the did sneek in and need to be deported with the paperwork needed to file for visas and come here legally.

Divde and conquer and you people are falling into the laps of the NWO. they want you all to be divided and that will be an easy take over while people are distracted.

Tea party movement is a big threat to the NWO and its agenda. That would mean their agenda would be delayed if the tea party succeeds. So they need to make a diversion so they use groups like the La Raza to divide the people from organizing.

La Raza should be considered not only extremely racist but extreme terrorists as well. Oh wait their Mexican... So they cant be racist. Only white people can be racist. Oh wait they cant be terrorists ether.. Only patriotic Americans who own guns can be terrorists. Did I get it about right all you lefties?

If I come on here and say we should deport illegal aliens. I will be called racist, Nazi, clan member, etc. If La Raza members say "kill all the white people" "Go back to europe" Not a soul would get in their way or call them any names. La raza members have actually said much much worse than this in the past years. Bottom line. La Raza is a RACIST organization!

Originally posted by tac109
If I come on here and say we should deport illegal aliens. I will be called racist, Nazi, clan member, etc. If La Raza members say "kill all the white people" "Go back to europe" Not a soul would get in their way or call them any names. La raza members have actually said much much worse than this in the past years. Bottom line. La Raza is a RACIST organization!

Which "La Raza" do you refer to? Partido Nacional de La Raza Unida was established in Texas as a way to representing Mexican-Americans in their local politics in Lubbock and Crystal City, Texas.

Or, do you refer to the National Council of La Raza? They are concerned with Chicano rights on a national level.

Or, do you refer to the criminal element of the Nortenos and Surenos? La Eme and Nuestra Familia are prison gangs that also champion elements of 'la reconquista'.

I mean, there are more groups claiming the term 'la raza' than you can shake a stick at. Its a popular term in Chicano national culture due to the legimate, hard work done by La Raza Unida and National Council of La Raza.

.... La Raza... english translation.... " The Race " ... Uh Huh... That say's a lot about them right there... Sounds to me like something the K.K.K. would use...

reply to post by SWCCFAN


C'mon man, provide us with some actual evidence other than a little biased article they are a threat. Even if they are, what about militias, what about neo-nazis, what about every other group with extreme views under the sun! I don't think the government is ignoring this group, just like they don't ignore any extremist group. Also please, ive seen a ton of threads and posts from you in the past week or two ive been here on illegals and you never seem to provide any credible sources or statistics.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by hangedman13

 

I don't need anyone to tell me drunk rednecks running around with guns with no one to answer to MAY be considered terrorists.

Or just look at the Hutaree militia...obvious terrorists.

Obvious terrorists? So much for innocent until proven guilty, let's just go with our unchecked emotions and J'accuse from a gut instinct, why don't we?

www.cbsnews.com...

www.freep.com...

www.nytimes.com...

www.freep.com...

While the Hutaree have been charged with the dubious "crime of conspiracy to commit murder", accused by an even more dubious undercover agent, the government continues to spit on the Constitution and use the full force of their usurped power to terrorize this group. Proving conspiracy to commit murders that never happened is much harder than proving murder, and often proving murder, as the O.J. trial can attest to, can be quite difficult. The Hutaree have not been convicted of anything, and the lazy claim they are "obviously terrorists" is beneath you my friend.

[edit on 15-5-2010 by Jean Paul Zodeaux]

Yea i noticed. One thing though... why do you think there is this "plan" to whip out white people?

Can't say I'm too familiar with this "La Raza" movement. Being in a bordertown, with many, many Latinos, this "insurrection" movement is very quiet around here. I'm familiar with the movement to help the Latino community. Much like the NAACP helps the Afrikan-American community. But this extreme "La Raza"? If they are around, they sure as hell don't speak for me. Reconquest? No, thanks.

As for MECHa, I remember from junior high school all through high school that it was an educational organization to help Hispanic students achieve greater means. Not this evil, racist organization. I couldn't enter MECHa because my gpa wasn't to their standards at the time.

Some people are really eager to start something around here now-a-days, I guess. Too much paranoia. Get out from your momma's basements, leave the damn couch, turn off the computer's for a while. Go outside and you will see that all this hoopla is no-where near, around, or close to you. Seize the day. Do something worthwhile.

my 2 pesos...

Originally posted by drkid
Yea i noticed. One thing though... why do you think there is this "plan" to whip out white people?

That was a funny image that just came to my head...I imagine all other colors with whips just smacking white people across the border now...ouch.

Anyway, which La Raza are we talking about here?

This one?
www.nclr.org...

Maybe this one?
larazaunida.tripod.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

The only group I know of that goes by "La Raza" at times is Mecha. There is nothing on their website about reconquest.
www.nationalmecha.org...

I googled La Raza, first thing that came up was the NCLR website. They have never bought into "reconquest". You have also have to remember that in spanish "Raza" can also mean "People" and is used in the context at times. Do you have a website for this threat or not? A BS poll from Topix does not constitute proof of a terrorist threat.





[edit on 15-5-2010 by antonia]

Interesting debate. But this is what I can tell based off of what I am seeing:
1) Tea Parties are a threat to the political establishment, and those who hold real political power. Every time I see an article on the Tea Party or a video, what I notice is the following: Singing things like God Bless America, holding signs demanding a redress of our government, people who are tired of the political machine failing to uphold and follow through with the will of the people as it stands. Every video, no one sees where fists or weapons are thrown. Nothing threatening from what I have seen.
2) La Raza: After actually doing a bit of research via the web this is what I can tell: La Raza on the surface is a peaceful group, but the understructure reeks of violence and sedition. When you espouse the philosophy of oppressors, and a mass murder, then there is a problem with the group, cause do you really want to follow people like that, would it matter?
If a group, and there a few in the United States, who look at Hitler as being a god, doing no wrong, and that is their right, though no one would want to allow them to have real political power. So why is it that a group who follows the philosophy of Che, a mass murder, Castro, a Oppressor, Chavez, another oppressor of the people, be any different. The question should be if La Raza was in a country where one of those three were in power, would they be singing a different tune?

Hello SWCCFAN,

The National Communist La Raza is powerful multi-million dollar taxpayer funded Communist front organization with the objective of the violent overthrow of the US constitution, the deportation of non-Mexicans to England, and a host of other vile, incidious objectives, including first degree murder.

The main stream media, along with obama's boss, Soros, all Democrats, and Republican-in-Name-Only (RINO) politicians love, adore, and admire this race-hate organization.

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The National Communist La Raza's gift to you and I

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The enforcement arm of Communist La Raza is the dangerous MS-13 street gang:


This MS-13 victim is lucky to be alive
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The answer is obvious. White people and white culture have been declared enemies of the state. Period. It is within the grand design of that racist communist boy in the white house to change the face of the country into some quasi 3rd world soup kitchen where honkeys have no place at the table anymore and must pay for their evil crimes. LaRaza is just another way to do that, just as Oklahoma is trying to ban militias but do nothing about the Black Panthers.

White people better get their naive heads out of their collective a$$es and start paying attention to the cesspool they voted themselves into. Want to see your future America? Look to South Africa and Rhodesia.

You know, the people who have to REALLY worry at the end of all of this, is not going to be the illegals, its not going to be the legal mexican -american, its not going to be the buisness owners, its not going to be our govt, its not going to be the non border states. The people who will really
be effected most are those people whom live amongst the majority of the illegal population in the southern border states. WE are the ones( the people who are already struggling as it is to live in a state we once knew as prosperous), that will be in danger or are already in the process of being.. States that have been overrun by foreign criminal enterprises, right here in our own backyards ever increasing over the past 20 or more so years.
Its going to be in OUR back yards where "the battle" is or 'already is' should I say, being taken place. And it starts with AZ and TX. NM is a lost state if you ask me but would take years of correction to fix if it were to actually get fixed at all). But while people in our states are having to deal with this problem( well anyone who actually gives a damn), we are getting torn apart from the inside out like that Ugly chic(Weaver) in Alien.

You want bloodshed? ANYONE?
I can tell you RIGHT NOW, those of us in the border states DO NOT WANT THAT. Take that to the bank.
We DONT want bloodspilt over this, we have been through TOO MUCH already together to ruin that now.
What we DO WANT, is for some damn control on our STATE BORDERS.
Its not just "THE UNITED STATES " border, its the ARIZONA,NEW MEXICO,TEXAS, AND CALIFORNIA border(along with all of the other border states in the nation).

We have to make sure we maintain control in ALL of those regions, IF NOT,well then I guess there is no use for our State as a whole, our military who protect us, or even the homes in which we live. If any foreign invader wanted to take us out, getting into our country would be THE LAST THING they would or do worry about. Im sure you may even have one living next door to you to whom you never communicate with.
When TSHTF, all of those illegals(you know the ones who are just "minding their own buisness")are going to be the ones on the offense, they will be the ones attacking your fellow Americans because they had nothing but ill intention towards you since the beginning and played you like fools.

They really dont try to "blend" very well over the past couple decades it seems, and there is reason for that. They dont give a damn about you, nor I, nor our establishment. Why should they? They already showed how much they cared about our laws and customs since the moment they decided to cross that line, running through the deserts like pack wolves. You seen it, I seen it, we all know its happening, yet NOTHING gets done about it. Its sad the people can be so naive.

reply to post by Adonsa


Ok first you send us to another forum page, which doesn't actually provide any good proof of the gang being funded by the taxpayers or any major political party or person for that matter. Then you provide another link about them killing black people. Then a picture of a drug gang which is MS-13, then a picture of one of the gangs victims, with wild statements saying the group is the same as them :s
Honestly get some REAL evidence, not just blogs and threads from other websites and claims they are similar to a drug cartel.

These La Raza people sure are ignorant and stupid. They only use historical facts and information that helps there cause. They fail to see that land and countries have been fought over,sold, and stolen all over the world for thousands of years, not just in America and Mexico.The spanish wer some of the most violent,land grabbing people not too long ago. There lack of education does not surprise me and there cult mentality is mind boggling.

[edit on 15-5-2010 by hawaiinguy12]

Originally posted by tac109
If I come on here and say we should deport illegal aliens. I will be called racist, Nazi, clan member, etc.

That is sadly, true, but enforcing the law is a good idea though.


All of the people here illegally should be rounded up and held in FEMA camps until we can ship them to their nation of origin (who could receive a bill).

Rounding them up and holding them would immediately take them out of the job market, allowing the millions of unemployed Americans opportunities for employment.

Along with not occupying an American's job, they won't be collecting welfare or benefits while they are in the holding camps.

We could do several million a year if we made an effort and offered rewards for entrepreneurs who want to get in on the thing. Many illegals would probably try to flee to another country or just return home and skip the not-so-fun period that comes with being caught and detained by the authorities.

The holding camps would be just that - Holding Camps. They would not punishment facilities or a source of labour. Nobody should be expected to work to recoup costs.

They would have children and old people and that is why the illegals should get no less than what was intended for short-term use by the American people during times of emergency (hence FEMA camps, which are built for use by citizens).


And just to be be fair, all other countries would have our permission to ship home all the Americans who are illegally in their countries.

*A cash reward should also be offered for information leading to the capture of an illegal. $1000 dollars per illegal captured would be a nice way of thanking the American who helped get that criminal off the streets and out of the country. Should their tip about even one illegal leads to the capture of multiple illegals, then the person should receive $1000 or more per illegal. Likewise, rewards would offered for turning in those who harbour illegals.

This cash incentive would allow entrepreneurs to make money (potentially lots of it) whilst helping to solve the illegal problem.

Plus, this is something that individual states could begin to do own their own, as soon as they need to.

La Raza (The Race) is just like the KKK, it promotes it's own race and it's members promotes violence against other races. It's a hate group that needs to be treated like the KKK. Affiliated groups like MEChA (Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán) are more radical student groups that often are supported by local schools. These are violent Nationalist racist groups that believe the southwest U.S. was 'taken' from them and they want to populate and take it back. In some cases schools support them as local student clubs not knowing their violent racist and Nationalist roots, until citizens out the school on it.

I grew up with Mexican friends in L.A. who echoed the 'take back our land' and 'we were here first', but all of them had parents from Mexico. They also asked 'why are we forced to speak English, that stupid European language', which forced me to ask them where they thought Spanish came from.

The US needs to increase funding to the INS and ICE from the national security budget and enforce existing laws. More states need laws which make the Federal immigration laws state laws. Illegal immigration is bankrupting California. My parents immigrated, they stood in line. Illegal immigrants are bypassing the line which is a slap in the face to those standing in line or who stood in line.


[edit on 15-5-2010 by Dbriefed]