Month & Day Start of Tribulation 2010!!!

I know date setters are frowned upon, but that's ok. I'm not here to please anyone. I'm here to make people aware of the times, so I made my own discovery about the start of the Tribulation, including, Month, Day and Year.

So I made a video and posted it on Youtube. If you want to know when the Tribulation will more than likely start, check out this vid. This is not set in stone, but the findings are AMAZING!



If that video still isn't convincing, check out this brief video I found. You'll notice it agrees with what I've discovered according to my calculations.




Mod Edit: All Caps Removed from Title

[edit on 5-12-2010 by worldwatcher]

Its very interesting. Like my Dad always told me, we can never know the date of RAPTURE but who says we cant know the date it all goes down hill, i.e. Tribulation. You make a good point, and the whole getting press before the election, it makes some very good sense, but the only thing we can do is wait and see. I'll definitly be keeping an eye on this. Like everyone I talk about end of the world stuff, i always get the same answer , "Your right something does seem off about the way things are now, something is coming" I dont know about you but I feel something everyday, and its only a matter of time, it always is. Awesome thread.

very interesting, makes cents to me! i was brought up Christian but decide to live my life separate from the church. no one knows when the rapture will take place but....... im sure it would be very very soon. the oil spill, looks red if u ask me, sea & water turning red, plagues disease h1n1, swine flu, sars. wars ( Iraq), rumors of wars, north n south Korea, china us, Russia us, list goes on....famine droughts, ... if i keep naming all this stuff you will see that it has ALL happened within the last 3 or so years, get ready for it people. either its for real or its just an awakening in conciseness

Nope won't happen. Cause 2012 has to happen, and nuribu has to show up, and aliens have to show up, and the world has to colapse as a whole. All that has to happen before rapture happens. Besides no one knows when/if it will happen

Well, I don't normally get into Biblical prophesy but I'll have to give you credit for putting together a nice bit of information. The prophesy forum always confuses me because certain people on this board will do anything to take a dump on a prophesy even though this is the prophesy forum. I'm not sure why...

Anyway, you are right, everybody these days seem to be dropping dates about this or that. So far nobody has been right, and it is very possible that nobody will be right when (and if) the day comes.

IF there is to be a tribulation, then your guess is as good as any. Again, your information was well organized and came to a very interesting conclusion. I could see those pushing the peace agreement to use that specific date for obvious reasons. In your words "time will tell..."

Now for me to start talking crazy:
Who could the witnesses be? IF (and this is a BIG IF) the tribulation is to occur, I think I have a candidate for one of the witnesses. A man who has a questionable past, questionable origin, looks Ethiopian, and has come out of nowhere to a position of power. Hmmmm... (cue the birthers to start foaming at the mouth as my "theory"!)

Ah well, the moral of the story is that whether this stuff holds water or not, it is always a good time to love thy neighbor, do good, and live your life to the fullest. Tribulation or not.

[edit on 12-5-2010 by nydsdan]

Just think if people put as much effort into saving the world, as they do in predictions of the world’s doom, the world wouldn’t be facing doom!

Prophecies by the way are by and large self fulfilling. That a certain percentage of people want to see Biblical Prophecies eventually come true is what’s going to allow them to come true, if in fact they can spend enough time sitting on their hands, while doing nothing, but imagining what date it might start.

Thankfully some of us are working tirelessly to save the world, and it’s doubtful Rome’s plan to establish a one world Government through getting the masses to mimic biblical prophecy will come to fruition.

It really is though a shame that people’s ‘faith’ is aimed at a horrible end for life on the planet, instead of having faith that we could all chip in to make the world a better place.

As long as people of ‘real’ faith, that is faith in oneself and a right to survive and exist in an ever more progressive peaceful and prosperous world exists, none of the naysayers dates for ultimate and impending doom and gloom are ever going to come true.

Thank goodness for that!

These are very interesting times we're living in. Take from the videos what you want. I'm just trying to spread awareness and boy oh boy, it's close!

If the End-Times is self-fulfilling prophesy, well... don't a whole lotta people believe this series of events will occur and therefore it HAS to happen? Look, I'm not on their side ideologically, but if it comes time for the heros and epics you can sign me up. What a way to go!

What about the gap ?

I'm sure I've read thet there is a gap, a time of no time, if you will, between the end of the 69th week and the beginning of the 70th week.

This is why God has said that no man knows the time. Even Jesus said that he did'nt know the time, only the Father.

Maybe someone can enlighten me.

“But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness
Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.”

-1 Thessalonians 5:1-6


I like what you've put together also,since we have been instructed to "Watch"! Just keeping alert to the possibilities is a good thing.

However,there are many false prophets preaching false doctrines,and the Pre-Tribulation "Rapture" is one of them.

I mean no offense;I used to believe in it,too,until I learned that it is absolutely not scriptural. (If I wasn't so tired right now,I'd list the reasons myself,but all you have to do is Google "PreTribulation Rapture is a Lie" and you'll see what I'm saying.)

By the way,just remember all the Christians around the world being killed for their beliefs right now. They weren't "raptured",were they?

Besides,where is scripture does it say Jesus returns secretly? It doesn't. It says He will return with a shout and every eye shall see Him.

Would someone be so kind as to say what that first video says, please? Since the video contains music from Sony, it's unavailable here in Germany.

reply to post by triune

I'm sure I've read thet there is a gap, a time of no time, if you will, between the end of the 69th week and the beginning of the 70th week.

Yes, some do see a gap between the 69th and 70th weeks in Daniel's prophecy. This is because of Daniel 9:26a and Daniel 9:27a:

And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. ... And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week...

(Note that in the entire passage two different people are spoken of.)

Some dispensational scholars view the weeks being put on hold after the anointed one is cut off. They would say that he is the Messiah, who was crucified. They further their argument by saying that the anti-Christ (the he in verse 27) makes a covenant for a week, which seems to indicate that the final week takes place then. The gap between these two events is unknown and comprises the Church Age, or the Age of Grace, and is where we currently reside.

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Likening those that believe in a pre-Tribulational rapture as false prophets and saying that they teach false doctrines is ridiculous. They believe in the same Gospel as you do and that is what counts for salvation. The possibility and timing of the rapture is not a belief that is essential orthodoxy.

By the way,just remember all the Christians around the world being killed for their beliefs right now. They weren't "raptured",were they?

For saying that you used to believe in the pre-Trib rapture, you don't really remember much from it. The pre-Trib belief teaches that all believers will be raptured. So, those today that are persecuted for their faith will be raptured when it occurs.

Also, pre-Tribulationalists tend to hold to the position that the Tribulation period is going to be worse than anything today. Thus, the persecutions that our brothers and sisters in Christ are enduring are nothing compared to what will happen during that time.

Besides,where is scripture does it say Jesus returns secretly? It doesn't.

The pre-Tribulationalist would point you to 1 Thessalonians 4. So to say that it doesn't isn't exactly true. It depends on your hermenutic and what presuppositions that you're forcing onto the Scriptures.

Also, to say that a pre-Trib rapture is "secret" is funny. Is millions of people vanishing somehow secret?

As you said, one needs to be open to possibilities. Being too dogmatic about the timing of the rapture is silly because Scripture itself isn't exactly clear on the issue. Each of the views has it's own issues and problems as well, so one shouldn't act as if they've actually settled it concretely with any one view.

A teachable spirit is important and we'll all learn a thing or two come eternity.

Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by On the Edge

 

Likening those that believe in a pre-Tribulational rapture as false prophets and saying that they teach false doctrines is ridiculous. They believe in the same Gospel as you do and that is what counts for salvation. The possibility and timing of the rapture is not a belief that is essential orthodoxy.

By the way,just remember all the Christians around the world being killed for their beliefs right now. They weren't "raptured",were they?

For saying that you used to believe in the pre-Trib rapture, you don't really remember much from it. The pre-Trib belief teaches that all believers will be raptured. So, those today that are persecuted for their faith will be raptured when it occurs.

Also, pre-Tribulationalists tend to hold to the position that the Tribulation period is going to be worse than anything today. Thus, the persecutions that our brothers and sisters in Christ are enduring are nothing compared to what will happen during that time.

Besides,where is scripture does it say Jesus returns secretly? It doesn't.

The pre-Tribulationalist would point you to 1 Thessalonians 4. So to say that it doesn't isn't exactly true. It depends on your hermenutic and what presuppositions that you're forcing onto the Scriptures.

Also, to say that a pre-Trib rapture is "secret" is funny. Is millions of people vanishing somehow secret?

As you said, one needs to be open to possibilities. Being too dogmatic about the timing of the rapture is silly because Scripture itself isn't exactly clear on the issue. Each of the views has it's own issues and problems as well, so one shouldn't act as if they've actually settled it concretely with any one view.

A teachable spirit is important and we'll all learn a thing or two come eternity.

It's true that belief in the Rapture,whatever the version,has nothing to do with Salvation. That was not my point.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17,"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,with the voice of the archangel,and with the trump of God,and the dead in Christ shall rise first. THEN we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,to meet the Lord in the air,and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

That's only one of many scriptures that pertains to this subject. To take it out of context is a grave error.

Another one people use to support Pre Trib belief is this one,Matthew 24:36,"No one knows about that day or hour,not even the angels in heaven,nor the Son,but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah,so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man,...24:40,"Two men will be in the field,one will be taken,and the other left"...(Those that were left were destroyed,remember?) No chance to look around and discuss what just happened.

There will be no second coming before the "falling away" and the son of perdition revealed...2 Thessalonians 2:3

John 6:40,"For my Father's will is that who looks to the Son shall have eternal life,and I will raise him up at that LAST day."

John 11:24..."I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the LAST day."

Concerning the scripture that says "every eye shall see Him"...has nothing in common with implying "everyone will look around and wonder where all the Christians went"! There will be no doubt when He returns as to what is taking place.

What about John 17:15,"My prayer is not that you would take them out of the world but that you would protect them from the evil one."

The secret rapture doctrine derives it's origin from a mystic trance. Have you heard of Margaret MacDonald?

Perhaps the main danger in people believing in the PreTribulation lie is the very fact that people will perhaps be deceived into following a false Christ. Perhaps Project Bluebeam will be a success.(Have you heard of that?)

The point is,there are many things that have to occur before "the end". Christians who think they will not be around when these things occur will not likely be watching for them or even recognize them for what they are. The biggest warning Jesus gave for the end-times is to not be deceived.

If you don't want to do your own research into this,and want to rely on the "Left Behind" series mentality,that is your choice. To anyone sincerely looking for Christ to return would do well to study this subject in depth,according to scripture,"precept upon precept".

Someone believing Christ can return "any day now" are not seeing the bigger picture. That's not just my opinion. The Bible is clear on this subject. People need to be careful not to cherry-pick their beliefs based on what just "feels good" to them.

We're already in the Tribulation. We have been for several years. Anyone who says they can predict the exact date of the start of any prophesy is spreading falsehoods.

The bottom line is this: Every day should be a day lived in an effort to follow in Christ's footsteps. Some days are better than others. When we make mistakes that we regret we ask for forgiveness and keep moving forward. If you are one of those who recognize the signs and can see that the time is near, prepare your heart and guard it too. But we can only go on living each day as it comes and when the day comes it comes, but only Yahweh knows exactly when that day will be.

Proverbs 4:23 "Guard your heart above all else, for it is the source of life."

Don't be deceived. If you're interested in knowing the TRUTH of what is required for Salvation, click on the links in my signature.

Interesting,

I am new to ats and this particular post caught my attention. Amazingly this is the same conclusion I came to 9 or 10 months ago. I have a website that deals with this very issue. Check it out at www.tribulation2009.org Originally, I believed the tribulation might begin in 2009. Hence my web address, but I have since revised the site to the present 2010 timeline.

If you want to see some other timelines that fit well with this one check out "The Jonah Code" on you tube (9 hours of teaching from Michael Rood) and Pastor Sandy Armstrong (s4c) also on you tube. Daniels Timeline (you tube) is also excellent. I don't agree with all that Daniel Matson teaches, but it is certainly worth the watch.

As far as being in the Tribulation now -- NOT!!!!

Anyway, the Lord is knocking at the door!

God bless,

Ken

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron


If we are in the Tribulation period then I sure missed the treaty between Israel and Palestine and this supposed Anti-christ who was supposed to declare world peace. We aren't under a one world government yet, as far as I know.

The treaty is supposed to be signed sometime this year so either we are misinformed on current world events or you have inside info.

[edit on 16-5-2010 by novastrike81]

I'm something of a liberal Christian and I personally believe the Rapture and the Judgment Day actually refers to what will happen in the 2010s decade as the current order breaks apart. People who worship the "beast", ie, the current authority, will not fare well unless they "repent", ie, understand the truth, before it is too late. Those who survive will live in the Utopian Age of this earth, and technology may even render them immortal.

reply to post by Spykemann


the 2nd video, the one referencing the date of 8 November
(with all sorts of support from the election cycle vote timing)

well the 8 November is in the pop culture mind frame mostly from the
pseudo importance give that date from the TWZ (time-wave-zero)
meme...as a 'novelty' date

then that date was taken up by the Clif High web bot linguistics predictor,
see the thread : "6 May begins the push for 8 Nov attack"


in my view, just another set of people jumping on a bandwagon,
with good arguements about their forecasts plausibility...
fun mental exercise but fanciful at best, but it does draw eyes & ears to the scene of the noise, eh

reply to post by Spykemann

There have been a long history of predictions...
...Sir Isaac Newton was caught up in one in the 1600's...
...William Miller led an Advent movement in the 1800's.

At least we won't have to wait long to see if this one is true.