N.Korea boasts success in nuclear fusion

N.Korea boasts success in nuclear fusion

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North Korea said Wednesday it has succeeded in nuclear fusion in a "breakthrough" towards the development of new energy sources.
The report in Rodong Sinmun, newspaper of the ruling communist party, made no mention of using the claimed new technology for North Korea's atomic weapons programme.

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If this is true, we should forget about the Iranian threat and start worrying about North Korea and a Nuclear Fusion bomb.

Or could this be the new beginning of a renewable energy that saves the world from the brink of world war 3?

I guess this could be a true test whether man is truly born evil, or good-hearted.

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Since North Korea attacked the South Korean vessel. And are in talks with New China. There seems to be new confidence in Kim Jong Il that he can start the Korean War over again and win.

North Korea did not achieve sustainable, harnessable nuclear fusion. They can boast all they want, but they did not. Nada, zippo, non.

Originally posted by ksimokovich

If this is true, we should forget about the Iranian threat and start worrying about North Korea and a Nuclear Fusion bomb
[edit on 11/5/2010 by Mirthful Me]

If this is true then we should damn well invest in this technology, since the US, Russia and China all cannot achieve nuclear fusion in a controlled state for use as an energy resource.

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You can keep imaging that to yourself, but soon you'll realize how crazy Kim Jong Il really is.

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Doesn't matter how crazy the old fool is, the country does not have the funds available to finance the lasers needed to create sustained Fusion. L.L.L. will be able to do so here in the states later this year, but only after building a $100B laser array and spending 50 years researching it.

No, I don't have to "imagine" anything. A tiny dictatorship without enough money to power its own capital is not going to be the first country to create sustained fusion.

Lets not be promoting ignorance around here, M'kay?

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Do you how much money Kim Jong Il has? And yes after reading what nuclear fusion is I doubt he could achieve it.

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Even by venture capitalist standards Kim Jong Il is a small fry. Running your country into the ground and having zero exports with high imports is not conducive to padding your personal bank account.

The efficient dictator rules with a soft grip from behind the scenes, allowing the country to develop robustly enough that you can eventually relenquish control with several hundred billion scurried away somewhere.

Old Kimmy has 3-4B in swiss accounts. I know startup investors with more than that.

Wouldn't it be simply amazing if North Korea saved the world from reliance on oil and coal with Nuclear Cold Fusion?

I bet they give it to EVERYONE except the USA. lol.

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Just because the US spends $100B on a laser to create sustained Fusion, does not mean that someone else cant say "hang on why dont we just do this that costs only a few thousand dollars" and achieves the same end result

[edit on 12-5-2010 by bluedrake]

Originally posted by D.E.M.
North Korea did not achieve sustainable, harnessable nuclear fusion. They can boast all they want, but they did not. Nada, zippo, non.

Absolutely correct. ITER is leading the way for nuclear fusion research and even they are nowhere near to making nuclear fusion a viable or cost-effective means of energy production. Estimated year that fusion will be viable is between 2040 and 2050.

When will fusion power become available?

The international ITER agreement of November 2006 has an initial duration of 35 years in order to construct (10 years), operate (20 years) and de-activate (5 years) the ITER facilities.

The construction period, the most intense in terms of resource needs will culminate in the so-called "First Plasma", the physics process materialising the start of operation;

It will be followed by an operation phase during which ITER will be progressively brought to its full performance capabilities.

The knowledge and experience gained after the first ten years of ITER operation combined with additional materials development will allow designing and constructing a demonstration reactor (DEMO) which should produce electricity around 2040. DEMO will be the last link towards the economic exploitation of fusion power starting from around 2050.

europa.eu.../10/165&format=HTML&aged=0&EN&guiLanguage=en

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nk is so full of crap, next they'll tell us that they have captured ufos or mastered time travel.
anything just to raise thier position in the world.
nk is like an animal that makes its size seem bigger to scare off predators.
damn china for letting them be this way. damn russia for spreading comunnism and damn america for fighting communism.
the world is too unstable for this to go on.
wow i went off topic in the end.

Originally posted by bluedrake
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Just because the US spends $100B on a laser to create sustained Fusion, does not mean that someone else cant say "hang on why dont we just do this that costs only a few thousand dollars" and achieves the same end result

[edit on 12-5-2010 by bluedrake]

Unfortunately, building a space shuttle out of tin cans will only result in a pretty explosion. Some things do have a minimum price threshold, out here in the real world.

Can someone explain to me what nuclear fusion is? I'd like for this to be explained to all the lay people. Is it just the fission materials of nuclear power like uranium and plutonium being used for energy purposes? Just how is it different from nuclear power? I'm a little lost. It sounds important, and, something I would need to know... so please explain to me what it is.

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
Can someone explain to me what nuclear fusion is? I'd like for this to be explained to all the lay people. Is it just the fission materials of nuclear power like uranium and plutonium being used for energy purposes? Just how is it different from nuclear power? I'm a little lost. It sounds important, and, something I would need to know... so please explain to me what it is.

letmegooglethatforyou.com...

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My spider senses tell me that whenever mankind discovers a way to get lots of energy for really cheap, the device that produces it will be remarkably simple in design.

Maybe some yahoo over there actually figured it out.

There was a man involved in the Roswell incident, one of the high-ups in the military who spoke the words "I just have no idea how that damn thing flew... there wasn't a single moving part inside it"

If I remember correctly, H. G. Wells in his book "War of the Worlds" described the alien spacecraft as having one peculiar property: nowhere within the workings of the machine could you find one of mankinds oldest, most-common, and simplest inventions - the wheel.

Human beings are impressed with machines with lots of parts. High costs. Huge size. Lots of maintenance and complexity. Think of the rendition of the robots in the Transformers movies. Or just look at the internal combustion engine, then compare it to a jet engine, then compare that to a Tesla engine. Simpler is almost always better in so many ways.

Anti-gravity, and zero-point (or whatever you want to call it) energy will be produced with a device with only a handful of parts.

Mark my words...



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Originally posted by Frankidealist35
Can someone explain to me what nuclear fusion is? I'd like for this to be explained to all the lay people. Is it just the fission materials of nuclear power like uranium and plutonium being used for energy purposes? Just how is it different from nuclear power? I'm a little lost. It sounds important, and, something I would need to know... so please explain to me what it is.

Nuclear fusion is the process of taking small atoms and bringing them together to make a larger atom. It is theorized that this is the energy-producing process that occurs in the sun. In the sun, hydrogen atoms are brought together under high temperature and pressure to create helium. When you do the math, you measure the mass of the hydrogen going in and the helium coming out, and you find that a little bit of mass is missing. That missing mass is converted into energy according to Einstein's famous equation E=mc²


Today, even though I and many others have accepted this explanation of the way the sun works, I am just about ready to throw it all away in light of new theories involving the electric universe (plasma conducting through space) and/or multidimensional energy flow.

Who really knows?

Every advance in science shows us that what we thought we knew was actually wrong.

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Most people in this thread are falling for the same Cold War era propaganda that their parents and grandparents did.

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a military corporation chartered at the beginning of the Post-War era. I believe that it follows the same structure as the new IMF regime in Haiti.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think that the six-party talks concerning North Korea represent an international 'board of directors' regime in the Korean peninsula;

www.globalsecurity.org...

China, Japan, America and Russia form the colonial majority in this regime, and the two warring Koreas form the native minority; executive power lies with the colonial powers.

[I think that this co-operation between the Pacific Powers is demonstrated by the restraint with which these nations fought each other in Korea; though America had a nuclear advantage over China, Russia, and the DPRK, they refused to exercise it.]

I believe that the DPRK is tasked with the kind of military research that is so top secret that almost nobody in the Powers' domestic establishments can be trusted to know about it. For example, the world's powers have agreed to work towards ending their own nuclear testing programs, but key states refused to sign the test ban treaty and are exempt from it.

en.wikipedia.org...

The DPRK could easily be directed to perform any cutting-edge research that is too unsafe to perform in the Pacific Powers' home countries. It's the outsourcing of the entire Military-Industrial-Congressional complex. Thus, just like the familiar domestic M-I-C, its purpose is not to actually wage war, but to generate hysteria and a perpetual State of Emergency that permits TPTB to carry out any agenda they please.

In short, there is nothing to fear but fear itself; do not be afraid of North Korea, it is all under control.