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“Truthers” allege that government explosives caused the afternoon collapse of Building 7. This is false.
The myth that Building 7 was blown up by the U.S. government is false – and so is the broader theory that our government was somehow involved in the 9/11 attacks
To dispute the conventional historical account [of 9/11] is intellectually dishonest and nonsensical
there is no single credible piece of evidence that implicates the United States of America in the Sept. 11 attacks
I found no evidence of any conspiracy other than the one hatched by Al Qaeda that was later confirmed by the 9/11 Commission
I am convinced the 9/11 “Truther” movement is nothing more than a paranoid, delusional pack of lies
Originally posted by thedman
If you look at top line of article it says "OPINION"
Not fact, opinion which is based heavily on hearsay.
I know this because I was working as a journalist for Gannett News at Ground Zero that day, and I remember very clearly what I saw and heard.
Who were the mythical Con-ED workers?
How did they happen to overhear Silverstein with all the ambient noise?
Did anyone confirm that Silverstein was even there?
Funny thing about opinions they are like a rectum in that everyone has one and usually full of crap....
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by bsbray11
It is you who are avoiding the issue
How does one demolish a 47 story building in 2 hours ?
Much less in front of numerous cameras.....
You posted that Silverstein CALLED HIS INSURERS
As I pointed out such cases often end up in years of litagation
Even if Silverstein insurers said go ahead
HOW YOU DO DEMOLISH A SKYSCRAPER IN 2 HOURS!
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
Except of course he hasn't "validated something you've been saying for years".
Your claim is that this third-hand report of a conversation means that when Silverstein spoke of "pulling" he must have meant the building.
And boy, you really, really want it to be true, don't you?
Originally posted by bsbray11
You forgot the fact that Larry Silverstein did want to demolish WTC7.
Before this article, that was not established, though the brighter amongst us were able to interpret as much from his "pull it" quote, whether or not you think that was a valid way to reach this conclusion.
Before this article -- "no evidence" you would say. Now -- read the freaking article.
You really, really don't, don't you?
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
Okay. So you trust the guy writing the article? You think he's a worthwhile source? Despite his views elsewhere - notably of people who share your views - and the fact that his report is pretty vague.
Furthermore you consider it "proven" now. To the point of it being a "fact".
If that's your standard of evidence required for "proof" then it's worrying that you're amongst the "brighter" amongst us.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Why are all your stupid questions directed to me? Since when is it my duty to babysit you and answer all your nagging questions?
So Larry Silverstein *did* want WTC7 demolished on 9/11. Discuss
Grow up.
Originally posted by Six Sigma
Originally posted by bsbray11
Why are all your stupid questions directed to me? Since when is it my duty to babysit you and answer all your nagging questions?
The title of YOUR OP, truther, is what?
The questions I ask ARE in fact, relevant. Silverstein was not even at ground zero on 911.
I know this because I was working as a journalist for Gannett News at Ground Zero that day, and I remember very clearly what I saw and heard.
...
Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building
...
I was there.
I know what happened
The journalist gives ZERO names and offers nothing but hearsay.
DEAL WITH IT!
You started this thread asking us all to discuss and you don't even have you facts straight.
Grow up.
Seems I struck a nerve with you. Sorry, Brian.
Originally posted by bsbray11
If you have issues with the credibility of the guy who wrote it, email him, don't cry and whine to me, because you should already know that I don't know the guy.
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The article doesn't say he was, it says he was on the phone.
Is this CameronFox/ImaPepper again? What was that moderator policy about trolls coming back under multiple new accounts? Do I smell another banning in the air?
The 9/11 forum is a volatile forum. People have passionate feelings on this topic. So much so that the Terms and Conditions of Use are ignored. ATS has attempted to curtail this trend in the past:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
It didn't work. There was ignorant childishness displayed in that thread that was there to let the posters know that decorum on the board is necessary. Seeing as some members that post in this forum do not or will not get the concept that Courtesy is Mandatory the staff has discussed this blight on the board and has come to the conclusion that we will have to enact a "zero tolerance" policy in this forum.
If you post and insult you will be post banned(pb'd) or perma banned. If you troll you will be pb'd or perma banned. Some will think, "that's OK, I'll do what I want and just reregister if I get banned." Let it be known that the staff is VERY good at detecting past banned members and those accounts WILL be terminated. Is it not easier to just abide to the T&C?
Zero tolerance folks. Post inside the T&C, which you agreed to upon registering to ATS or you WILL face actions against your account. This is not open to debate. Most 9/11 posters will probably welcome this action. If you do not, that's not our issue, it's yours. As already said, you agreed to the T&C upon registration. It's unfortunate that this action had to be implemented but this forum WILL regain ATS standards.
Originally posted by Six Sigma
You posted the title. You said discuss. Now, please stop stalling and answer the question.
Was what he reported indeed factual or was it hearsay.
The article doesn't say he was, it says he was on the phone.
Really.... and please thrill me.... you are buying this?? You call US sheeple?
Is this CameronFox/ImaPepper again? What was that moderator policy about trolls coming back under multiple new accounts? Do I smell another banning in the air?
Never heard of them.
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
This Shapiro guy is pretty unequivocal in his opinions. I rather like him.
“Truthers” allege that government explosives caused the afternoon collapse of Building 7. This is false.
The myth that Building 7 was blown up by the U.S. government is false – and so is the broader theory that our government was somehow involved in the 9/11 attacks
To dispute the conventional historical account [of 9/11] is intellectually dishonest and nonsensical
there is no single credible piece of evidence that implicates the United States of America in the Sept. 11 attacks
I found no evidence of any conspiracy other than the one hatched by Al Qaeda that was later confirmed by the 9/11 Commission
I am convinced the 9/11 “Truther” movement is nothing more than a paranoid, delusional pack of lies
Originally posted by Joey Canoli
LMAO-
Yet another truther classic case of them thinking that they're supplying some type of source that backs their claim of a need for "another investigation", only to have it blow up in their face when the person quoted clearly thinks they're loony.