Company says it has solution for Gulf oil spill, but being ignored

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by apacheman
Or is it that deals are being struck to divert the potential profits away from South America into the pockets of Big Oil?

Yes, deals were struck

3 weeks before the spill, Haliburton bought Boots & Coots,
An oil spill catastrophe company.
coincidence ??? hardly

Does it sound familiar ???

6 weeks before 9/11
Silverstein takes out terrorist insurance
on the towers.

And both of these investments
are making profits.

Not to mention that Haliburton was involved
in another oil spill in Australia in 2009.
Where tanked stocks of PTTEP were gobbled up
on the Thailand Stock Market.

Coincidence?? not hardly

we're just waiting to see who buys
BP stock when it hits rock bottom.
And you will find your hostile take-over conspiracy.
Follow the money !!!

Haliburton at it again... I suppose they can do what they want when they want and NEVER have to face consequences. The "follow the money" equation works perfectly in this case because really it's all they care about.

I just don't get know these people are willing to kill thousands upon thousands of people and destroy the environment for wealth. What are they going to do with that wealth once the Earth is completely destroyed?

When I see someone say, it's 100% organic, I say, well, so is oil.

Product is interesting. Wish we could know what it is made out of. I heard
something about vegetables.

Will we have to grind up perfectly good (ecoli tainted) lettuce to make it?

Just saying, article doesn't give enough info to make an informed decision.

This is quiet shocking...again
And yes there were many companies willing to help and capable of encasing the oil leakage.
This shows again how corporate America is involved in politcs and in reverse, for the sole purpose of playing around and not being responsible to congress [and thus the people] by hiding behind a commercial enterpise. And that is something they should think of in DC.

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by hawkiye
Yeah the solution is called hay, there is no need for some special clean up product It grows wild and is cultivated all over the earth and proven to work and has been used in the past, no EPA approval needed. See below thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My understanding was that in the quantities required, it would deplete the amount that is used as feed for livestock, cattle etc?

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As a farmer I would have to say there is lots of hay and this would be the best time of year to get it. In a few weeks our cattle will be going out on pasture therefore we know how much hay we have leftover that can be spared.

We have about 100 round bails that will not be feed this year. This hay we can use next winter but it does not have as much protien as this summers new crop will, so it is mostly used as beding on top of the snow next winter when the cows do not want to go into the barn. We use straw in the barn, so this is just really a way of recycling the old hay.

There have been times in the past when farmers out west have had a drought and we have shipped hay by rail to them. I am sure most farmers would give up a load of hay to help, I would. We all live on the same planet and need to take care of it. I added a few links about this.

www.uni.ca...

www.tdc.ca...

cheers

Originally posted by Aceofclubs
who needs an inovative and seemingly great product like this thay are gonna use hair and stockings according to yahoo news

The solution don't got to be pretty as long as it works.

The main problems with using the hair solution is the availability of the "bouys" and handling them. They really will absorbe many times their weight and volumn in crude.

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Originally posted by mryanbrown
reply to post by apacheman

 

All you need is a skimmer to suck the water into a centrifugal chamber, as the oil has a different viscosity it will seperate at a particular height in the chamber. You can then funnel that layer out seperate the oil from the water and pump the water back out into the ocean.

No chemicals, no hair, no hay bails. No fancy machines.

Suck it out at a massive rate, seperate it. Pipe the clean water back in.

[edit on 9-5-2010 by mryanbrown]

I agree 100% that this would probably be the most efficient way to separate the oil form the water ... if you could be sure that you can suck all of the contaminated water up to go through the process.

If I'm not mistaken, I think some South African dude came up with an invention like this some years ago. There was quite some interest in his invention and predictions were that he was going to get filthy rich ... wonder what happened to him.

The key to cleaning up the oil, is getting the leak stopped.

If they don't stop the leak, it doesn't matter what they throw at it, it's going to be a disaster...


Let's just hope they don't start using Self Replicating Nanobots.

The use of treated material absorbs about 40 times it weight in oil, far exceeding existing commercially available remediation materials. Because water is completely rejected by the ISC material, the oil can be recovered for use, a substantial benefit in oil spill cleanup efforts. The new oil cleanup solution uses patented Self-Assembled Monolayer (SAMs) technology. The technology recently was announced and is of extreme importance. This highly effective material shall help mitigate the environmental and health impacts caused by the approximate 3,000 worldwide annual oil spills.

The marriage of nanoparticulates and SAMs provides direct access to a new class of nanostructured hybrid materials that are very useful as environmental sorbent materials, structural components, coatings, wetting control, friction and lubrication control, adhesion, bio-related applications (e.g. pharmaceutical controlled release, and biomedical implant materials), sensing

www.physorg.com...

reply to post by Psyagra


This is what my most recent thread is all about, we already have boats with a 1000 tonne capacity:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Why not just use both hay and boats sucking the oil up. And everything in between....

To give you an idea of how small a cube containing 50 million
barrels is : 195m x 195m x 195m = 0,00745 km3 !

Earlier, in another thread I had proposed to have some oil-
sucking ships sent over from Europe.

Already the biggest, the German NEUWERK, has a capacity
of 640 m3/hour, while only 800 m3 a day are spilling into the Gulf.

The US must have similar ships. The Dutch might have the biggest.

Had you reacted promptly, a number of those ships could already
for at least two weeks have been surface-cleaning the ocean
above the well.

reply to post by mryanbrown


The Voraxial Separator

The Voraxial Separator is fitted with a patented non-clog, low-shear rotary assembly designed to create a vortex in the fluids flowing through the separator. By this action, heavier materials (such as solids) are forced to the outside of the vortex while lighter materials (such as oil) are drawn to form the central core of the vortex, thereby creating separated flow streams. A specially designed manifold is utilized at the exit of the separation chamber to collect the separated streams.

Link to source above.

There are ways of cleaning this up that are not being looked at, at least as far as I can see. These compact units could be spaced out around the spill and moved in closer as they do their job.

reply to post by boondock-saint


So? What exactly does Halliburton buying a Blowout Company mean? If you're suggesting that by causing an incident which has been hugely damaging to the oil industry that Halliburton or BP are profiting, you are hugely wrong.

General Electric acquired a maker of blow-out preventers known as Hydril (Houston, TX), does that mean that GE are somehow profiting from buying a company which produces products which fail? Your argument is nonsensical and premised purely on the desire to invent some conspiracy theory.

Anybody who thinks that BP could possibly be profiting in ANY way from the spill are gravely wrong. Drilling two relief wells and snubbing the current gusher are immensely expensive and time consuming products, not to mention the fact that they will likely have to pay out a large sum for losing the rig (which was on lease) through their own carelessness.

I am so thoroughly sick of everyone on here inventing stories (yes, inventing - noone has adduced a shred of evidence or proposed a means by which oil companies could be profiting from this) for the sake of being conspiracy nut-jobs... Learn something about the oil industry before you go slagging it off quite so quickly.

A quick opinion regarding folks being surprised that this hasnt been handled more efficiently/effectively and that the entities involved dont seem concerned that lives are at stake. Outfits like Halliburton et al. make the human-lives-for-profit transaction every day. The view from the top of the pyramid allows a dramatically different perspective of thhe world and its resources. Ideas like population control are on these elitist agendas too right next to profit. Outrageous? Of course!

A quick opinion regarding folks being surprised that this hasnt been handled more efficiently/effectively and that the entities involved dont seem concerned that lives are at stake. Outfits like Halliburton et al. make the human-lives-for-profit transaction every day. The view from the top of the pyramid allows a dramatically different perspective of thhe world and its resources. Ideas like population control are on these elitist agendas too right next to profit. Outrageous? Of course!

the gulf spill is a natural event . It is larger than a city in size from what I can tell from images.

It may start to move down the gulf stream that goes all the way in a line . I think that it would take years to clean ..Its just a never ending hole of pure oil pumping into the gulf . I mean this stuff is just pumping out ..Its not just in the gulf that is there...its still pumping more out ..its like u can soak it but there is more and more to keep on soaking up

He does not have the funding to produce enough to go out and do it for free. Besides we need to be sure the EPA approval is granted cuz we dont want to just go and do something without understanding whether it has consequences or not.

See it takes energy and supplies also to produce what the company needs. The supplier is not going to just give them the supply and the electric company is just going to not charge for the power they need to complete the product.

He would have to get a credit line from a big lender to even do it and if he cant convince them on a decent ROI or timeline, they wont establish the loan.


Just stating the way things work in the world thats all.

reply to post by apacheman


The problem is, is that if people have a solution, they should just go in and start doing it. Who cares what BP says? BP does not own the ocean....nobody owns the ocean! We all have a right to go in an clean up the ocean and the animals and save the wildlife if a giant catastrophe hits.

The problem is is that we've all gotten too compliant. Someone wants to help...someone else says, sorry, you're not qualified. And instead of saying "screw you, you don't own the oceans, I'll help if I want to", people are just backing down and saying "oh, sorry...."

It's like with health care. Right now, there are all these laws that say only doctors can cure people, and only pharmaceuticals can cure. Give me a break! They can make as many laws as they want to, but ultimately, people can say "Screw you, I have something natural that will heal you" (like herbs or homeopathy) and I'm going to help myself and others, and who cares what you think.

Same thing. There comes a point where people have to rebel against ridiculous laws that keep us sick, and keep the oceans sick.


It's like when vaccines make people chronically sick. The vaccine manufacturers know this is happening, but instead of admitting it, and not using vaccines anymore, they create new drugs to treat the illnesses created by the vaccines.

So, let's say that one poster is right who said that Haliburton caused the "accident" to happen, just so they can make money off cleaning up the spill. No wonder they are ignoring everyone else who says "I have something that can help."

People, who cares what they say. If a farmer has extra hay, and wants to help, let him truck it on down to the gulf and throw it on the beaches. If another company has a solution, let them go down and do it. Who cares what BP says. They don't own the ocean!

I have decided that I am going to go down and help clean up oiled animals and birds. Am I certified? No. Will some beaurocrat in some rescue agency try to stop me, because they think I'm not qualified to wash a bird in Dawn dishwashing soap? Probably. Do I care? No. I'll do it anyway.

Nobody owns the right to help others. Period. They can try to legislate it, but if enough people say "screw you, you don't own the oceans" then they can't stop us.

The longer this spill goes on for, the longer it will take to clean up. The longer it takes to clean up, the more money companies will make cleaning this thing up. Look at who will profit from the clean up. Wake up and smell the oil.

This says it all.

Sorry that didn't work. maybe someone else can imbed this?

www.youtube.com...

Apologies for lack of technical know how.

Originally posted by TheLaughingGod
reply to post by Psyagra

 

This is what my most recent thread is all about, we already have boats with a 1000 tonne capacity:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Why not just use both hay and boats sucking the oil up. And everything in between....

I was reading this page about oil separation and then started doing some math on a napkin...www.ultraspin.com.au...

A fleet of small boats, outfitted with skimmers and separators would employ a lot of deck hands... and you could get paid 70 dollars per barrel of crude you recovered.

I wonder if a tesla centrifugal pump could function, with clever porting, as a precision, high volume, oil separator?




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