Debunk This!!! You can't. Ha!

reply to post by Whyhi


I can help...read this article..
www.newswithviews.com...

a snippet..
"We discussed quite thoroughly the fluoridation of water supplies and how we were using it in Russia as a tranquilizer in the prison camps. The leaders of our school felt that if it could be induced into the American water supply, it would bring about a spirit of lethargy in the nation; where it would keep the general public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism. We also discussed the fact that keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water reservoir would be advantageous during the time of the revolution, as it would give us opportunity to dump this poison into the water supply and either kill off the populace or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water.

"We discussed in these schools, the complete art of revolution: the seizure of the main utilities, such as light, power, gas and water, but it was felt by the leadership that if a program of fluoridating the water could be carried out in the nation, it would go a long way toward the advancement of the revolution." Oliver Kenneth Goff, 1957

[edit on 8-5-2010 by baddmove]

reply to post by GorehoundLarry


Well Gorhound, you certainly live up to your moniker. You haven't said one thing yet that has any substance. Keep grasping for logical fallacies. Seems that's all you're capabale of contributing here.

[edit on 5/8/2010 by dubiousone]

Originally posted by baddmove
reply to post by OnceReturned

 

It doesn't matter my friend, there is no reason we should have any amount of fluoride in our water, none what so ever..

It does matter though. If fluoride provides a benefit and can be used safely then we should take advantage of it.

What doesn't matter is the fact that it is the by-product of something else. If the science tells us that it is safe and useful, why wouldn't you want it? Is it somehow important than it was created incidentally in some other process? Why should that matter, given the amount of evidence telling us that it can be beneficial and safe?

You do know that the oxygen we breath is a by-product of photosynthesis right? Should we all hold our breaths, rather than consume a by-product?

If there's anybody more annoying than a white guy with dreadlocks trying to sound like a black gangsta, I haven't heard it yet. Seriously...on an 'Annoying Scale' of 1 through 10, this idiot rates a 900.
He's just rehashing stuff that's been out there for years, in a horribly annoying manner. Fingernails scraping a chalkboard would be like harp music from heaven compared to that guy.

Meh.. I like his angle .. but his .. how would you describe it.. ghetto country accent lol .. meh. I hate Youtube.

Originally posted by OnceReturned
Are the entire medical and scientific communities in on the conspiracy?

I take it you're not familiar with the FDA or the ADA and their standards of practices regarding Big Pharma and Legislating?

If there were only one conspiracy in the history of mankind, it would be spawned by those who look to make a dollar off Average Joe, with the help of those we elect, at the cost of Joe's health.

To answer your question: Absolutely, positively YES!

Unless you want to fund and independent study yourself, I'm not buying any reports from some lab schmuck that have already been bought and paid for by those in Washington.

reply to post by baddmove


That giant page provides no proof either. Fluoride does not effect your mental processes unless you're taking massive quantities of it, in which case you would be dead before that happened...


reply to post by baddmove

Fluoride is a pollutant - a by-product of copper, iron and aluminum manufacturing

Fluoride occurs naturally, you're going to get fluoride in water whether it's put there by humans or not.

A "by-product of copper, iron and aluminum manufacturing" is taken way out of context, it's not like someone is taking giant fluoride filled barrels with giant biohazard symbols to the water supply and just dumping them in.

Rats need about a hundred times lower amounts of fluoride, than humans, to be harmed. The amount of it in your drinking water wouldn't do a thing to a rat.

Ever heard of water poisoning or oxygen poisoning? Stop drinking water and breathing air right now!

[edit on 8/5/2010 by DGFenrir]

Originally posted by dubiousone
reply to post by GorehoundLarry

 

Well Gorhound, you certainly live up to your moniker. You haven't said one thing yet that has any substance. Keep grasping for logical fallacies. Seems that's all you're capabale of contributing here.

[edit on 5/8/2010 by dubiousone]

Care to go into detail? If so, feel free to PM me instead of derailing the thread.

Thanks budd.

reply to post by OnceReturned


well in your last post you quoted this .."Heavy metals are deadly at high concentrations, so is ammonia, and CO2, and hydrochloric acid, and potassium chloride, yet all of these things are either necessary for humans to consume or produced naturally by the body. Does it make sense for me to say that you are being poisoned by Cheerios because they contain iron, and large amounts of iron are dangerous? Of course not, you need some iron, but - like everything else - too much is bad.

Let's talk about that too..my old thread..
www.abovetopsecret.com...

A "by-product of copper, iron and aluminum manufacturing" is taken way out of context, it's not like someone is taking giant fluoride filled barrels with giant biohazard symbols to the water supply and just dumping them in.

Nah..they would never even think of doing that..ooops..my badd..

American water supply, it would bring about a spirit of lethargy in the nation; where it would keep the general public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism. We also discussed the fact that keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water reservoir would be advantageous during the time of the revolution, as it would give us opportunity to dump this poison into the water supply and either kill off the populace or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water.

yea..you go ahead and drink up bro..

BTW Mr Mask, good thread, i liked his OKC bombing one too, who cares if he is black or white or green, he does a good job at keeping it simple

[edit on 8-5-2010 by baddmove]

reply to post by Mr Mask

can not be debunked.

Anything can be debunked. For example:

Conspiracy Theorist: "The sky is blue."

Debunker: "No, it's not. The sky only looks blue. It's an optical illusion. Think about it. Obviously air is colorless, right?

Conspiracy Theorist: Umm...look up.

Debunker: Why? You can't believe everything you see. Did you know that they did a study and concluded that one in three formal courtroom witnesses under oath remember important details incorrectly?

Conspiracy Theorist: Dude...seriously...look up.

Debunker: You said that already. If you have to repeat yourself, obviously you have nothing left to say. Give me proof that the sky is blue. You can't. There isn't any. But here's a picture I found on the internet of the sky at sunset. You can see clearly that the sky is hot pink.

Audience: Wow. That's totally debunked. The sky is not blue.

Originally posted by OnceReturned
reply to post by baddmove

 

* * *
The game of citing studies is one that you will lose. The medical and scientific communities have taken a definite stance on the issue: fluoridation of community water is safe and effective.

The medical and scientific communities also took a definite stance on the safety, efficacy, and many benefits of using mercury almalgam for dental fillings, while hiding the nature of the fillings by calling them "silver" rather biologicallly and neurologically damaging mercury.

Are you saying that we should not think for ourselves just becasue the number of "authorities" who say something is good for us is overwhelming? Appeal to Authority is one of the oldest and most widely used logical fallacies on the planet.

Good for baddmove for bringing this information forth. Starred!!

[edit on 5/9/2010 by dubiousone]

If GOD wanted flouride in your water he would of put it there. Man puts it there because some a hole said it was good for your teeth but his real intention was to harm you and to make money. This stuff accumalates in your system until it reaches a critical mass or amount . (Toxicidity )Just like mercury. Everyone has their own limit just like alcohol... Just like the mercury in the vaccines supposedly used to extend shelf life , no way would a rational mind inject mercury in their blood stream even in small amounts. Debunk This ................ You better wake up ! The Man is 100% right.

reply to post by Mr Mask


Thanks OP for posting the Debunk This!!! videos. I enjoyed them. Simple and straight forward presentations which anyone can comprehend.

reply to post by dubiousone


Thank you my friend..sometimes people just don't want to see the truth
but i will give it to them all the same..

reply to post by Mr Mask


Mr. Mask,
ChangeDaChannel has a series on youtube that also sponsors the Alex Jones videos.
I've seen these videos before. As you said well researched and presented.

S+F, good job, as usual.

Tom

Those who deny that this is correct provide nothing of their own, other than 'independent studies', 'gov studies'.

This thread has been derailed by people who are defending the WHY. Watch any of the videos on youtube. He really does provide the links that are so desperately craved. Might be too much work though. Its probably easier to toe the line.

The guy provides facts and links. Labcoat and/or suit, does not equal legitimacy. Stereotyping people can be hazardous.

Originally posted by Portugoal
I think this guy is missing a lot of information in a lot of his videos. And his rambling on items, when there is more damning evidence out there, is like he's dumbing things down for YouTube...

I kind of imagine him as the prototypical writer for "Conspriracies for Dummies."

Exactly!!! you did understand his video/s.
That is exactly what his edge is make a simple video that even a dummy can understand.
Present your point and put a chink in the armor, once you see a weakness you know the story cannot be airtight. Therefore it is neither fully investigated and/or wholly true.
When i was a youngin my boss used to tell me kiss method is always best, keep it simple stupid.
What he has done was to make it easier for a person who claims there are no conspiracies to see there truly are.
Conspiracy to steal a candy bar is still conspiracy.

reply to post by dfens


dfens,

I agree with you 100%!

He looks a lot like my brother w/out the Hog. Although it is probably just outside his window. (bets in an 'lectra, auto!!!, blue tank)

I have followed up with some of his researched links and they to prove to be accurate.

Thanks,
Tom

It's really hard to debunk my brother as well.

I remember the first time I came across the flouride in our water and toothpaste video I was so scared!

I like reading the post of all of you because I can learn something from you guys. There were a few times when I said, "Oh man! That guy has got the rest of these guys beat! But then someone comes along and says something and completely shuts him up! For two minutes." I don't remember their names so I can't say who shut up who.