Venus / Planet X debate : Who and What to believe ?

Well ATS-users, it seems that lately, UFO hysteria has hit the streets ! With Stephen Hawking's latest speech on possible hostile ET life and the numerous threads on this site about various images from SOHO apparently showing a mysterious celestial body ( that many claim is Venus and many don't), the debate needs to be put to rest.

Now personaly, I don't believe in all these Nibiru theories, but to be honest, my beliefs are being put to the test. Now, not being very good in science and not really understanding out-in-space phenomena, I can't really give a justified opinion about anything concerning telescopes and what-nots, which is dangerous seeing as I have to put my trust into someone else's claims.

That said, it's possible to stumble across a claim that grabs you and slaps you in the face.

One thread, started by Sparkey76 on the 14/2/2010, contains images that have caused a lot of uproar in this forum recently. Here's one of the photos i'm referring to :



Now this just adds to the whole '' Is it Venus or something else ? '' Debate. After reading other threads, no real answer is given, or no general consensus is reached on what the object is.

There is also a user on Youtube, jcattera ( his channel here ) who has posted videos on a certain celestial object that also falls into this debate :



What are we actually looking at ? Is this really an unknown object ? Is it just Venus ? Is it just some other planet ?

Why waste your time debating?

Our consciousness shift/revelations/2012 is right around the corner.

Get your internal house in order, and lose all that no longer serves you.

Raise your vibrations. Feel joy. Laugh. Play. Love your family.

Well there is only one thing we can do.
If Dr. Hawking is right I'd suggest some good old fashion butt kissing.

Cause when ET shows up and really is bad ass as Hawking says they are, there is absolutly nothing we could do to stop them. Don't you think ?

it's too late they are here now and have been for a very long time. who do you think is running things anyway? CFR, Builderburgs, club of Rome, vatican, who?

What about this object on Today's LASCO C3 image..???

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Could this object be a huge ufo, comet or what...???

sorry to make you sad guys, but this is venus it's magnitude is -4 which is very bright in the sky

Will someone ever come on here and give a lamens term type of explanation why this is Venus or not. Seems like a bunch of opinions wich really count for nothing on a site like this although i respect everyone has their own.

I just saw this one, look at it.. I dont think that 'thing' is a lense anything, it gets brighter as the Sun flares up on the right side.

And it is clearly behind the sun, how else can the Suns outburst's pass infront of it ?
It is 1.5 years of Images, and that thing seems to be there all the time, is it Moving or what ?

Originally posted by Unium

the debate needs to be put to rest.

And, your thread aims to do this?

Who exactly are you going to get an answer from, here, that will put this to rest?

It's just one of those things you will never get a straight, or correct answer to, so, why even bother?

Is it for your own curiosity, or do you actually suppose anybody else, gives a damn?

The last I checked, the planet earth has a lot more pressing issues to deal with!


[edit on 6-5-2010 by Blanca Rose]

reply to post by CanadaBorn


We need to reach an agreement ! There are so many science buffs on this site and they all seem to disagree on this subject !

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That's more or less the goal ! A lot of people in this forum have scientific knowledge and alot of members seem to clash when they discuss this topic.

I think I know the answer to this question but I have to ask anyways. Does Venus or any other planet/celestial body appear this big from anywhere on the planet? If not, then seriously...WTF IS THAT??!?!?

The first video really needs some in depth explanation...Phage???

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The only thing the video you linked to proves is that jcattera is an idiot.

As has been said, Venus is real bright this time of year.

What people need to do is get hold of some sort of star chart.

I use Stellarium.

Now, back to the vid.

jcattera pans across to Pleiades.

This was his biggest mistake if he was trying to fool people that this isn't Venus.

Simply put, Venus has been very close to Pleiades recently.

As this image shows:

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Thanks for clearing that up =) I never knew Venus could appear so bright ! =) And I love the storm clouds in that picture ! =D