SWAT kills two dogs in front of children during a house raid over a marijuana posession.

The REAL point of this story is that the drug war is silly and needs to be stopped, if not at the top then at the bottom with LAW ENFORCEMENT refusing to arrest those in possession of Cannabis at least. Freedom is the right to have a substance without armored goons kicking in you're door and shooting you're dog, no matter the circumstances. You also have the freedom NOT to have the substance in you're home.

This morality legislation and state body ownership MUST STOP NOW!

the fact is police are not supposed to use their weapons unless there is an immideate threat to them or their fellow officers. maybe someone can explain how a dog in a cage is an immideate thraat.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to Blaine91555

 

Yes mistakes are made but I'm not buying it in this case. To much evidence to the contrary from the drugs to the fact they keep a vicious Pit Bull in their home.

Bro did all those drugs mess up your brain? HOW THE HELL do you know if the pit bull was vicious?

Furthermore i think anyone who has ever let drugs ruin their life is a idiot. So dont be getting on a high horse preaching cause in my eyes you are as bad as them you let drugs ruin your life for 25 years?? Whats your excuse?

Ive never been into drugs. I think people who let drugs ruin their life are mentally weak. But i know their is a huge difference in someone smoking a joint occasionally and someone shooting heroin, smoking rocks or doing meth.

No way you gonna tell me that pops smoking a bowl every now and then probably not around his kid is more detrimental to the childs well being than being woke up in the middle of the night as a kid and have your family pets shot like clay pigeons for target practice. If you believe that i guess all those drugs did mess you up.





[edit on 6-5-2010 by ker2010]

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
reply to post by FortAnthem

 

Thank you for providing that. I hate to go off just a video with not much more.

Ok. So the dogs were not caged and were acting in an aggressive manner and were not called off by the owners.

Im a dog lover. I have one. An agressive one (german shepherd) so I understand the love of dogs and having a guard dog. Owners should always have their dogs trained to be under their control and should be able to be called off with one command. Anyone who has a pitty or other type of "guard dog" should know this and always follow this. Not having control of your dog means you are a bad dog owner. These people heard the cops say: call your dog off. They did not.

[edit on May 5th 2010 by greeneyedleo]

[edit on May 5th 2010 by greeneyedleo]

Definitely understand your point, but to me it looked like everyone got woke up in the middle of the night.... I don't know my own name when getting woke up in deep sleep, let alone dudes smashing through my front door and hearing gun shots going off, last thing I'm thinking is Scruffy stop barking, more like where is my son, wife and then my gun.

Sorry guys, thread was too long; Didn't read all the posts.
I just want to say that i live in Columbia, and if you don't live here you wouldn't know this, But in Columbia Possession of you to 35 grams of weed is a misdemeanor crime.

They kicked in his door, killed his dog in front of his kid for a max fine of $250

These cops should be lined up and shot upon sight. Really, in front of the children? Sickening....

[edit on 6-5-2010 by Mr.Noman]

How many of those officers have tasers? Overkill and excessive.

www.youtube.com...
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Ok, am I indeed missing something here?

I did NOT hear the officers tell the owners of the house to restrain their dog...



Edit to add: I bet when the "perpetrator" asked the cops (after this situation) why they shot his dog and said "That wasn't right", they probably said, "Shouldn't smoke pot".

Cops (a lot of the time) have a way of turning things around and justifying their actions...

Got a bucket for me???



[edit on 5/6/2010 by impaired]

This video made me sick to my stomach. Over a pot pipe? It really makes you feel small compared to the big government that is obviously turning against the people.

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Unfortunately rambo thats not what happens or will be happening in real life if the swat goes in yer house.

You either

1) sh.it your pants (most likely)

2) play the hero, and they shoot you in the head twice and your "loyal canines" for acting like a menace before you can blink or think about doing anything stupid. I know I would.

Cowboys... gotta love ya guys.

Almost the same exact thing happened to my cousin in a suburb of Seattle, WA. His room mate was a small time pot dealer. The cops "got tipped off" that they were dealing coc aine or something and managed to get a no-knock warrant. In WA it is not possible to get a no-knock for pot, people just cant get rid of it that fast. At the time of the bust, my cousin and his girlfriend were babysitting my cousins niece and nephew ages 3 and 6. All were sitting in the living room watching tv when the door gets kicked open and they shoot both dogs. Everyone is forced to lay face down on the floor while the rest of the swat team searches the house. Meanwhile, the shooters decide it is a good time to enjoy the mcdonalds they picked up on the way, at my cousin's dining room table, with two dogs dead and bleeding out on the floor, and two children looking on in horror.

The official findings were a few pieces of paraphenalia (pipes & bongs), less than an ounce of herb, and some wall posters. For some reason they deemed a poster from the movie scarface and a couple others as evidence or something and confiscated them. Why they needed to steal people's decorations is beyond me.

My aunt was the name on the lease of the place (she was helping support my cousin, he was born with mental disorders) and raised hell with the chief about wanting reimbursement for the holes and blood she had to take care of. It took some fighting, but she finally got the money to fix the stuff. When she asked about the posters and such, she was told the people that owned them would have to fight for them themselves.


My point is, this happens on a regular basis it seems. Children get traumatized, animals get murdered, and people's lives get ruined... all for a plant?!?


www.eastbayexpress.com...

Technically, the drug war was ended. At least the use of that title. Now it is just drug prohibition, we are not "at war" with drugs any more. Yet they still want to spend $15billion at the federal level...

Prohibition has never worked and will never work.

Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.
- Abraham Lincoln: Speech in the Illinois House of Representatives, Dec 18, 1840.

Originally posted by SmokeandShadow
The REAL point of this story is that the drug war is silly and needs to be stopped, if not at the top then at the bottom with LAW ENFORCEMENT refusing to arrest those in possession of Cannabis at least. Freedom is the right to have a substance without armored goons kicking in you're door and shooting you're dog, no matter the circumstances. You also have the freedom NOT to have the substance in you're home.

This morality legislation and state body ownership MUST STOP NOW!

This!

It's not a war on drugs (or prohibition of drugs) is a war on personal freedom (or prohibition of personal freedom). Possession (or use) of Cannabis is a victimless crime and they're kicking down peoples doors in the middle of the night over it and shooting first, asking questions later. This is far, far from the worst type of case like this I and many others have read. The cops have killed more people over Cannabis than Cannabis has killed. I realise some of my comments are pushing the rules but people aren't going to take it much longer. You are born with the right to self defense and I know of more and more people that would be willing to exercise that right against anyone threatening their personal safety or their freedom by using lethal force against people invading their home, law enforcement or not. It is a serious problem and I have friends in the police force who I do not want to see harmed. We do not want this world to get to the point where honest and otherwise law abiding citizens are labeled criminals and are being forced into booby-trapping their own house just so they can sleep at night without fear of being raided. It's amazing what some people will do to protect their freedom.

All while thousands of police hours are wasted on not investigating real crimes.

[edit on 6-5-2010 by Azp420]

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You must have watched the wrong video, because they did not tell them to call off their dogs, and the dogs were not acting aggressively. I watched that video last night and then twice right now just to make sure. That was the hardest thing that I've ever had to watch, what those cops did was deplorable.

They knocked on the door and the dog barked, then stopped barking. Then one of them said there's a dog (which they should have already been aware of if they would've done their homework) and then they kicked the door down.

The minute they kicked that door in they fired a shot and a dog yelped in pain. Why because they shot him ! Then they shot him again and he started yelping louder and ran away and they kept shooting him, and then you hear the other dog yelp when they shoot him.

They announced that they were cops, they announced that they had a search warrant, and they told them not to move, but at no time did they tell them to call of their dogs. And at no time did you hear a dog barking aggressively, he barked when they knocked and then he stopped. After that the only sounds that were heard from the dogs was them crying out in pain and fear, as the heartless jackboots were chasing and shooting them.

You're a dog lover ? Nah don't think so.

I've only read through three pages so far, my apologies if this has already been posted. For all those saying it was their fault, they brought it on themselves, they had to be dealing or the cops wouldn't have raided them, here's a story from 08' about the exact same thing. They raided the house and shot and killed the family dogs, turns out their intel was bad too, the house they raided belonged to the mayor......

www.cnn.com...

From this thread......

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I don't understand what happened to this country, when the hell did it become acceptable to burst into citizens homes like stormtroopers, terrify children and heartlessly kill family pets on evidence so flimsy as a tip ?

I'm furious and heartbroken about what they did to those poor dogs, and I hope they all get some major karma.

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I never saw the one you linked. It is so sad how often this bs happens. How is it that Mike Vick had to do hard time for bankrolling dog fighting, and corrupt cops don't get time for point blank shooting them?

You people are nuts. They shot the dog well before they said to call off the dog. Listen, with your own ears, at the video at 0:50.

I would trade my spot in heaven to be there when the cops come busting into your house in the middle of the night shooting within seconds of entering. The NERVE of you all. Thank you. Thank you for being part of the problem and making it seem ok for law enforcement to do what ever they want. I understand the risks involved with police officers but there are also protocols.

This has to stop. This is bullying and no matter who you are, if it happened to you for any other reason than you'd chance your stance in a picosecond.

HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Shame on you.

I mean, Christ. THis was so messed up I decided to post again and rant some more.

It's ok to go to your doctor and tell him your back hurts and get hooked on pain killers. It's a little low brow but you can even snort the pain killers as long as your nose doesn't snot up the next day at work.

All of the hard drugs that are destroying lives and communities were initially manufactured and distributed by the pharmaceutical industry. BUT,

Get involved with a little weed and the storm troopers will kick your door down and shoot your dog in front of your family. I get the fact that cops need to prepare for anything but there's a thick line between what happened here and what could have happened. One of those bullets could have went off and shot one of the kids. I am making sure that everyone I know sees this video. I am going to force them to watch all of it.

I guess the crazies were right. We are entering into a police state. Serious though, let's take the names of everyone who thinks this was ok because I don't want to share a tent with them when I'm hiding in the woods when the # really hits the fan. Epic fail.

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SmokeJaguar67: I love your beautiful dog! Please give him a great big bear hug for me

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It is becoming more and more common it seems. We've had cases here in Chicago where they have shot chihuahuas for cripes sake. Why anyone would have to shoot a chihuahua is beyond my comprehension.

We have allowed cops to be above the law, that is why they do these things and get away with it.

Thankfully we still have some good cops out there that would never do such a thing.

Ok Im sorry to say but I didnt read every last thread in this post which is very long but I did read a good bit up till the 12th page. Anyway if mentioned before then it is cool by me to delete this so..., I am a Marine I just got off of active duty after serving 4 tours in Iraq dont worry this is related... I am an 0311 and have served in a quite a bit of cities and provences since 2004. Anyways, there are alot of feral dogs over there... I wore/still wear alot of the same type of gear the swat officers wear I also recieved alot of shots and had the best medical care possible because I wore that uniform like I am pretty sure these officers have... Point is, I only bayonet dogs if they are that close to me and pose that much of a threat and i speak of feral dogs that have the intention of making you dinner but usually a swift kick to show it whos boss will ward it away packing hate and discontent and will find a rabbit or another smaller dog to eat, so why shoot the dog???? If the building is not clear then an officer does not know their target or what lays beyond why not mac,e tell me an efficiently trained officer in CQB cannot transition to anything on his 782 gear smoothley why shoot a round at an animal period is a dog a lethal threat, if the house was such a threat why the cluster F*** of officers at the front door if it was really a threat they would have been smoked it just seems to me they had some either new guy or someone really scared of animals I would never discharge a weapon in an american home if when coming in with any kind of intel that should have been responsible intel concerning kids why not just simply use surveillence to further understand this alleged operation that required lethal force on an ANIMAL to get an understanding of the situation cause to me this kind of action seems very irrational.