Brainwashed? Confused? or Retarded? you decide.

Hey ats. Today i was sitting in my health class learning about drugs and my teacher decided to show us a video. Well this video was a old news report where president George Bush Senior was talking about fighting a war against drugs. Well inbetween the newsreporter would come on and show statistic. One of them showed 83% of Americans at the time would give up constitutional rights to control the drug problem. For those of you alive at that time was it seriously that bad or did people just over react? Im very interested in this and thought some others would be to. Thanks in advance- Chaseninja

Probably true sadly.



Whatever 'War On...' we happen to be engaged in, we allow more freedoms and liberties to evaporate willingly and gladly, for mere false sense of security.

The 'War On Drugs' created a class of people who lost most of their rights for personal choice to use their body and ingest into their body what they choose, weather I agree or not.

No voting, no 2nd amendment...


The 'War On Drugs' was a sham like the 'War On Terror'


ITS ALL LIES AND BS

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Hmm, I guess I could be called a guerilla or freedom fighter or rebel faction in the war on drugs then.

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Isnt that the truth and of course no one around my redneck state gets it. Its all kill all the ragheads, or the drug dealers, or whatever the gov. says is the enemy without viewing their side of things.

For those of us alive at that time!
Ok, it was 1989-1993, come on now...

Frankly, that statistic seems high. However, this was leading into and during the first Gulf War so it is likely that the rhetoric was running strong.

Bear in mind that statistics can be manipulated to show what the presenter wishes to promote. I'm sure that there are other polls that would counter the number presented in your class.



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lol sorry for making you feel old :p im only 15 back then seems like forever to me.

They have been trying to legislate morality for many many years now. This is one of the biggest conspiracies in the last century. Do a little research into why various substances are illegal. Also do some research into the connection between Bush Sr. and the illegal drug trade. The hypocrisy of TPTB makes me

ah! drugs one of the ways tptb remain in control
i think that was brain wash/stupidty

Ron Paul said that "When you sacrifice liberty for security, you lose both". Aint that the truth. If you give them an inch the will take a mile. As long as TPTB know that they can achive the trust and cooperation of the people (or at least as long as the people are too ignorant or lazy to dissent), then they will continue to consolidate power in the name of said cause. The war on drugs is no exception. In fact, I am inclined to believe that the war on drugs is a big scam anyway, and that TPTB are collaborating in the drug trade. There is just too much money to be made off of it. That is a discussion for another day...

Suggestion to OP:

Remove the word RETARDED from your vocabulary until you understand how to use it without causing GREAT INSULT.

Thanks for your post.

peace

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It is most likely untrue that statistic. It was probably just a blatant lie to back up the extraordinarily bad drug policies that have been put in place in the US. Not that any other country has it much better. The strategy is that if you say 83 percent of people will give up certain rights, then maybe 83 percent will volunteer them up.

The other reason is to draw a line in the sand and create division between two groups, indistinguishable from sight in a battle of morality that has become completely immoral.

I would more likely give up rights and freedoms if there were a sudden reversal of all the propaganda and just plain filthy lies about drugs and drug users.

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Actually, his use of the word "retarded" was fine, and even apt:

Adj. 1. retarded - unintelligent, stupid - lacking intelligence;
source

The War on Drugs is very retarded.


TheAssoc.

Originally posted by Nathwa
Ron Paul said that "When you sacrifice liberty for security, you lose both". Aint that the truth.

Ron Paul didn't say that... Ben Franklin said it. Actually Ron Paul may have said it too, I don't know but Ben Franklin said it before Ron Paul. Also it's usually misquoted the real quote was...

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Liberty Quote

[edit on Wed May 5th, 2010 by damwel]

Once upon a time there were beaucoup of people addicted to heroin. They were dropping dead on the streets in large cities, and the crimes perpetrated to keep up their habits were unbelievable. They were burglars, auto thieves and prostitutes. On a daily basis. Sometimes breaking into houses multiple times a day.

I know heroin is still around, but I think it's not as bad as it once was.

Maybe because of the "war on drugs?"

Oh yeah: I agree with Silo on the use of the word "retarded". It's offensive. Just sayin'.

Actually on a percentage basis there were no more people addicted to drugs than there are today. The entire war on drugs only serves to expand the police state. One must first understand the difference between drug "use" & drug "abuse". We allow drug use legally with alcoholic beverages and guess what there are a small percentage of people that abuse alcoholic beverages.

when people have personal emotional issues for the most part they use alcohol,drugs or the Lord to address. The number of "abusers" would not change dramatically if drugs we legalized and taxed. The secondary benefit would be reducing our prison population by 70% and finally breaking the drug cartels, because if it wasn't illegal the drugs are cheap.

For the really addictive drugs like crack, heroin or meth, I hate to admit it, but a government program to distribute would be required. Come get your fix and undergo counseling for 30 minutes. This problem is self-solving as these addictswill either rehab or be dead within 5 years. Without the cash incentive the motivtion to push is gone.

This of course will never happen as I'm sure the political donations to those who are adamantly opposed to legalization from the drug cartels are enormous.

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Thank you for the correction, it is well noted. Reminds me of the quote "let them eat cake". Everyone thinks that Marie Antonette said it, but in fact Louis XIV's wife Maria Theresa (I think that is her name) said it first.

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sorry if i offended you i believe retarded just means stupid now. no one hardly uses it for mentally ill people anymore.

www.belowtopsecret.com...

It was not Ron paul or Benjamin franklin. It was Richard Jackson in a book published not written by benjamin franklin.

edit to add:
I thought retarded just meant dumb, wouldn't it be just as offensive to call a mentaly ill person retarded? I don't know maybe im just retarded.

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There was no internet back then. Most of the info we were fed was lies.

No one I have ever talked to has found the War on Drugs to be anything but a scam for the elite to make more money.

All drugs should be legal. Addicts should not have to pay for the fancy boats, mansions, and airplanes for the elite criminal class that runs this scam.

It pretty twisted that they force people into criminal acts to pay for drugs that are priced wildly out of line with what they can afford when most of the substances are fairly cheap and readily available.

War on Drugs? Just another grabscam by the ruling class to keep us losers in line and scrambling for every scrap at overinflated, punish the people prices.

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Thank you for the correction upon the correction Zaiger. Thats what I like the most about ATS, and that is sooner or later the truth gets (or at least should be) exposed down to the roots. I am glad that now I know where that quote really comes from. After all, nothing like giving credit where credit is due!