Event leading to Disclosure coming this year!

Would be awsome but..
not gonna happen

i hope it happens ive ben waiting for a while now since my mind awoke from the lies the govt told us

READ THIS POST

This is the new skin for the Galactic federation of light. or GFL.
Rememeber them?

This is all about people "channeling" messages from space and is new age BS.
not based on ANY science or any real observations of planets.

The new name for them is this:

The Galactic Council"

Remember that name. same sh** different day.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.atheneraefiel.com...
lucianarchy.proboards.com...
lightworkers.org...

found this one interesting.
this link:
council.celestialprime.org...

led me to a science fiction writers page. dedicated to creating a real world role playing game..is this where it all stems from?
www.celestialprime.org...

Thought you should know, before they start talking about the ships coming to earth, on a certain date, and then it turning out to be a load of bull crap pyramid scheme online cult. where only the people at the top win

In the end only the people spreading the "channeled messages" win. and make money from it all. Cant you see? its a con. it's not real.
These people are the same guys as the GFL.

[edit on 4-5-2010 by MR BOB]

reply to post by Beamish


I applaud your effort Beamish for actually taking your time and looking into the whole thing, but I have to say that you are incorrect. I wish I could post here the pictures as proof, but then I would have to expose the person from who I have obtained the information and that I am not willing to do. There is one thing though which you got right - English is not my mother tongue, despite the fact it may not be so clear at first sight. And no, I do not think you are a skeptic, rather a critic, which in this case is the better option, though you don't really believe me, which is fine.

Peace, Love and Light!


[edit on 4/5/10 by Cybernet]

reply to post by TheOneElectric


No, of course I will not be upset. But why have you picked winter 2010 as the deadline?

reply to post by beebs


Thank you beebs for another constructive reply. You are correct - I was trying to refer to the big picture here. The events you describe go hand in hand with what I was trying to point out in this thread, as they are related, though it perhaps may not be visible at first. I wonder why people haven't asked so far why is Buzz Aldrin so obssessed with Phobos? Do you think that if there wasn't a really big reason he wouldn't mention it so often? Especially on a show like Dancing with the stars? What is Phobos supposed to be doing in a show about dancing, unless he used the momentum as subliminal programming or a message box to send out (again) a signal about it's importance? I am very aware that Richard C. Hoagland along with David Wilcock are not the most respected people here on ATS, but how many people here have actually read all of their work they post online on their sites? Or who reads their work regularely? I do and I am not shy to admit it, because when you take your time and read through it, it does make sense, though it is sometimes slightly off. I don't know wheter you yourself have read Hoagland's recent texts on Phobos at his Enterprise site or listened to him on C2C, but he said one particular thing regarding Phobos. And the ideal goal of this topic was to give out a signal or hint to people that what he has said is actually true and not made up, because it was confirmed to me as well as mentioned in the OP and therefore when I learned this, my immediate thought was to share it with members on ATS without exposing the whole thing. If that hasn't been achieved properly, then I openly apologize and am sorry. I just wanted everyone to know, because I care about ATS and do like this place and owe it much since I have found out alot of interesting information here in return. Thanks again for your post.

Peace, Love and Light!

I do not understand all this "hope for disclosure" that seems so rampant around here.

The very same NASA, shadow government, Illuminati, black ops people that some speak of with outright distrust suddenly decide to tell us the "truth",
and at that point we trust and believe them?

Ridiculous! It will be nothing but grounds for more conspiracy theories.
We will then see this "disclosure" as a cover for some other conspiracy.

I, for one, do not need a government that I do not trust one bit to come out and reveal something in order for me to believe or not believe.

To me, anyone waiting for "disclosure" from government sources is a fool.

I believe what I believe, regardless of what some agency tells me.

reply to post by Cybernet


That is exactly what I was getting at haha.

I have read some of his material in some of the books he has posted online, but I can bet almost no one else that rails on the guy has read very much. He is very positive, very smart, and there are a couple other reasons why I like him.

One, is that he took a lot of hallucinogens when he was younger. This is very relevant to his credibility in metaphysics, do not edit this mods.

Terence Mckenna also did, and look what we got from him? Genius. Not recommending hallucinogens, but a certain type of person in society HAS to be designated in order to keep the order of things.

Ever heard of Ram Dass AKA Richard Alpert, he worked with '___' with Tim Leary. Incredible spiritual guru.

The guy that discovered DNA was tripping when he discovered it.

All this was during the era of Woodstock.

I can't verify this now, but I'm pretty sure many of the best computer programmers, maybe ones that helped develop the internet.. not sure... but I know a bunch of them from Silicon Valley(AKA California... AKA hippy HQ, medical pot, etc.) were into hallucinogens.

If they were involved with internet, perhaps not i seem to remember that was military, then how fitting is it that the internet is a mirror of the human brain? It's all just connections... It is only getting better, too.

They(the trippers) are the arbiters, like shamans, to society that keeps them in touch with nature. Shamans usually live outside of the village, and right on the edge of jungle, or wilderness. They have played such an important role in our evolution and history, that its no wonder the SHTF the past couple millennia - what with no shamans and such - or no trust in them if they were with us... or not good ones...

Indigenous tribes from all over the world use them. We talked about them and shamans in our mythology class in college, so again I do not want to see this edited or censored.

The second thing that I like him for, is that I've heard him swear(like say words that get censored on here, such as sh!t, etc.) in situations where swearing is necessary. It pisses me off when people tone down their language in really serious topics, when swearing is a much better linguistic way to get the point across, and show that you actually care about what you believe in.


Ancient Aliens tonight.

Wilcock's new vid out hopefully pretty soon... he said its all new info, so lets cross our fingers it is enough...

Originally posted by Noncompatible
Now I'm concerned.

Will it be the Martians from War of the Worlds or the crazy little dudes from Mars Attacks ?

Inquiring minds want to know.

That's just friggin great, no wonder Obama put off the immigration reform bill. I bet the Governor of Arizona is already in the loop. i.e. profiling green and gray aliens. How is Arizona going to deport E.T., maybe strap him to a rocket?

reply to post by Cybernet

I applaud your effort Beamish for actually taking your time and looking into the whole thing, but I have to say that you are incorrect. I wish I could post here the pictures as proof, but then I would have to expose the person from who I have obtained the information and that I am not willing to do.

As to my being incorrect about you writing your own “whistleblower” emails, well, time will tell, won’t it?

And as to posting the actual email, that can be done; what about taking a screen shot, blacking out all relevant names and email addresses etc in Paint, and posting that?

And now you have pictures too?

So let’s get this right; you have previously contacted ESA, asked them “a bunch of questions” and received an email in return that contained a non-committal reply written in a way that mirrors your own writing style, but that did include an allusion to Phobos’s uncertain history.

Then, in this thread, the whole thing’s become far more significant as you now state that you have a friend in ESA who is supplying you with information that confirms Richard Hoagland’s and others’ theories about Phobos’s origins.

Not only that, and because of this, official disclosure of extraterrestrial life is now scheduled to be announced in the autumn with, and (this is the best bit) our first formal introductions:

will be the Martians (and the Andromedans/Pleadians

Love it. Absolutely love it.

But not only that, you now reveal that you are in possession of ESA photographs which, I’m assuming, are of Phobos, again supplied by your “friend”.

There are so many plot holes here it’s hard not to trip over them.

Firstly, even though you suggest that you are “trying to protect your friend”, the fact that you have gone public with the essence and some details of his communications by posting this information on ATS completely outs him.

There is every chance that the contents of this thread will get back to them, and then it’s just a matter of internal security tracking down who’s been sending emails to your address.

And if this is as important to the world as you say, they will find you.

Secondly, did you honestly not think that other member’s of ATS can email the ESA and innocently ask questions about the info you’ve publically posted here, thus informing the Agency that their secrets are the subject of espionage?

Thirdly, why did he give this info to you in the first place?

Surely you had informed him that you were an active member of the world’s biggest conspiracy site? Did he ask that you not publish it? If not, and he has for whatever bizarre reason decided to just dole out sensitive information without regard for where it ends up, then that makes him a mole, and you his handler, both highly illegal practices.

See why I’m having problems believing you?

And no, I do not think you are a skeptic, rather a critic, which in this case is the better option, though you don't really believe me, which is fine.

I am not skeptical towards the possibility of the existence of alien life. I await disclosure as eagerly as the next man.

I am skeptical towards joe public (no disrespect) being the conduit for information that will change the entire world. Especially when they write a story line that hasn’t been thought out properly, and that is nothing more than a tease.

I will allow you this; if you are telling the truth, then you and your friend are in a world of trouble.

If you are lying, however, then you will get found out and subsequently loose all credibility.

Either way, not good prospects.

reply to post by MR BOB


This is in no way a defense of the subject mater, but it should be pointed out the two links you provided that refer to ATS member AnthraAndromda are not linked to any existing organization that purports to be sanctioned or created by “aliens”.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

lucianarchy.proboards.com...

AnthraAndromda wages his own wars, and whilst he will write exhaustively of his own “species’” history, he seems to distance himself from these other pseudo-Federations.

He also believes himself to be an alien, and is willing – and has undertaken – DNA tests to try and prove his case. The results are ambiguous to say the least, but I believe another ATS member has offered further tests.

I post this because there is a distinct difference between openly trying to involve one’s self in the UFO phenomenon by alluding to having “secret” information – as I believe is the case with Cybernet – and actively pursuing an absolute conviction – as does AnthraAndromda.

The other links you have provided are interesting, and extremely telling.

They only go to prove that when Humans don’t fully understand strange and mysterious events that surround them, some will erroneously attempt to gain influence by proclaiming secret knowledge of those mysteries. And people will follow them.

I think we call it religion.

Click here for more information.

reply to post by discl0sur3

... Perhaps there were details were left out that he/she may be willing to share with certain people.

Who gave Cybernet the right to pick and choose who to share the details of something that will affect everyone on the planet only with certain people?

Or is it that you can only find out the “secrets” if you “believe” unquestioningly?

An inquisitive mind is a terrible thing to waste…
One should never be afraid to ask questions....

Unless, of course, you are asking the wrong type of questions as then you’ll be excluded from the club.

Originally posted by Beamish


Who gave Cybernet the right to pick and choose who to share the details of something that will affect everyone on the planet only with certain people?

Or is it that you can only find out the “secrets” if you “believe” unquestioningly?

Beamish, I can't tell you how many times I've seen the above scenario unfold. Last year, it was mike1773. We got into it because he pulled the same run-around. I called him out on a video he said he had of black NSA cars parked outside his home because he had sensitive video of UFOs they wanted. I asked him to post it. ....but because I didn't ask for it nice enough, he got bitter and decided not to share it with ANY ATS members. I'm inclined to believe there was never any video in the first place.






[edit on 5-5-2010 by NightVision]

My last post was deleted because what I said was rude and impolite. Lets try again. Your post is EXACTLY like all of the other disclosure posts. There is only one reason you would post this without any proof. Attention!!!!!!! What good did this post do for anyone actually looking for answers. notta nothing!!!!!! It is the typical shock and awe title with absolutely ZERO proof or credibility! I would love to believe what you are saying... But I can not. Your post is the Bible of 5/5/10 ... Everyone must have "faith"!!!! Sorry but I stand by my original post .. This is a self serving post. Shame on you!

reply to post by NightVision

Beamish, I can't tell you how many times I've seen the above scenario unfold.

Me too. And it never stops. Know why?

No consequences.

Anyone can post anything on ATS that they say is secret or gleaned from whistleblowers or aliens etc., and when their threads die a natural death through lack of interest or, more likely, nothing coming from their prophecies, then they either go on to make another thread hinting at the same thing or carry on on ATS as if nothing had ever happened.

Amazing.

Cybernet has been on ATS a few times today, posted on another thread, but didn’t bother to address the issues raised here.

What does that suggest?

Playing devils’ advocate, he’ll probably say that the “information” isn’t ready to be revealed yet. Or we aren’t the right people to reveal it too.

Being pragmatic, he more than likely realizes that his little fantasy has hit a problem and he hasn’t an idea as to how to fix it.

Just my opinion, and my 3 cent.

Originally posted by Mobius1974
My last post was deleted because what I said was rude and impolite. Lets try again. Your post is EXACTLY like all of the other disclosure posts. There is only one reason you would post this without any proof. Attention!!!!!!! What good did this post do for anyone actually looking for answers. notta nothing!!!!!! It is the typical shock and awe title with absolutely ZERO proof or credibility! I would love to believe what you are saying... But I can not. Your post is the Bible of 5/5/10 ... Everyone must have "faith"!!!! Sorry but I stand by my original post .. This is a self serving post. Shame on you!

Agree completley, posting a prediction to be followed on faith after the overwhelming plethora of false hopes on this board is tantamount to an insult of reason and rationality. Even with a rudimentary understanding of computers you can deliver some type of proof and still protect your source's identity. I refuse to believe that there's no way of giving us something verifiable that doesn't protect your source.

Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Thanks for your reply, AnthraAndromda. Your comments about my willingness to be proven wrong are much appreciated. Even though I see you have already added your take on this OP's thread, and in light of this, I would appreciate your comments on my observations on the previous page.

I have to agree that if all people were actually open minded as opposed to being rabidly opposed to any possibility, then discussions would be far more interesting. Still, we can't have everything.



Beamish, anyone who thinks you are closed minded need some sense slaped into them. We have had our disagreements, but you are anything but closed minded. Even if you arrive at the wrong conclusions, you are at least willing to examine the evidence.

Actually, Beamish, the only issues I have with your comments there, are the ones about the writing styles of the respective people. I have been accused of having multiple accounts here at ATS. Not true by the way. But, there have been posts where someone with a similar disregard for grammer and spelling has posted in my threads, and was quickly accused of being me. So I would say that writing style isn't a reliable indicator.

However, I did have an issue of the style of the scientist. It seem to me that it lacked a certain precision. I'm a retired engineer, and I've found over the years that engineers and scientists have a "kind of precision" to their writing, even if subtle. This guy seems to lack that, which makes me wonder.

Etharzi od Oma

reply to post by MR BOB


Mr. Bob, as I have said in another place what I am talking about is not this "GFL", nor is anything of what I've said "channeled". ALL of the info I pass to you Humans comes directly from my mother's mouth (literally).

I will admit to there being a certain similarity, but, that is as far as it goes ... similar. Further, any similarities are purely coincidental.

I do not "buy into" any of the "channeling" stuff, nor do I trust the technique. I also don't trust many of those who want to make money off of the ET / disclosure "thing".

That being said ... I gain nothing.

Etharzi od Oma

reply to post by AnthraAndromda

Actually, Beamish, the only issues I have with your comments there, are the ones about the writing styles of the respective people. I have been accused of having multiple accounts here at ATS.

I haven’t formally accused the now conspicuously absent Cybernet of outright fraud, but I have voiced my opinion as to the distinct similarities of is and his “friend’s” writing style.

Though you quite rightly say

…writing style isn't a reliable indicator.

it also can be.

In this case, and I throw my hands up and admit that I’m not a graphologist, I do have a strong feeling that I may be right.

I’ve also said that I’m willing to be proven wrong, but as the OP hasn’t bothered to come back on this with a screen capture of the “email”, then the whole issue is still up in the air.

However, I did have an issue of the style of the scientist. It seem to me that it lacked a certain precision.

Really glad you picked up on that. There is a naivety to the manner of this “friend’s” writing, and the content is – to me at least - heavily suggestive of having been lifted from elsewhere; Wiki or the ESA site.

Still, could be wrong.