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Originally posted by gortex
None of the above
They're all self serving puppets dancing to the tune their particular paymaster is playing on the day.
change you cant believe in...................
post by Korg
People like you are the reason we had labour in the first place
Originally posted by gortex
The reason Labour got in was because people like me voted for change , sick of a corrupt and sleaze ridden Government , we bought into Blair and the promise that things could only get better
The son of stockbroker Ian Donald Cameron and his wife Mary Fleur Mount (daughter of Sir William Mount, 2nd Baronet),[4] David Cameron was born in London, and raised at Peasemore in Berkshire.[5] He has a brother, Alec and two sisters, Tania and Clare.[6] His father was born at Blairmore School near Huntly in Scotland.[7] The school was built by his great-great-grandfather, Alexander Geddes,[8] who had made a fortune in the grain business in Chicago and had returned to Scotland in the 1880s.[9] The Cameron family were originally from the Inverness area of the Scottish Highlands.[10] Cameron's forebears have a long history in finance. His father Ian was a director of estate agent John D Wood, and the stockbrokers Panmure Gordon, where his grandfather and great-grandfather also worked.[6] One great-grandfather, Arthur Francis Levita (brother of Sir Cecil Levita),[11] of Panmure Gordon stockbrokers, and great-great-grandfather Sir Ewen Cameron,[10] London head of the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank, played key roles in discussions led by the Rothschilds with the Japanese central banker (later Prime Minister) Takahashi Korekiyo concerning the selling of war bonds during the Russo-Japanese war.[12] Another great-grandfather, Ewen Allan Cameron, was a senior partner with Panmure Gordon stockbrokers and served on the Council for Foreign Bondholders,[13] and the Committee for Chinese Bondholders (set up by the then-Governor of the Bank of England Montagu Norman in November 1935).[14] One of Cameron's ancestors is King William IV (1765-1837), uncle of Queen Victoria Cameron is a direct descendant of King William IV (great x 5 grandfather) and his mistress Dorothea Jordan (and thus 5th cousin, twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II)[nb 1] He is the nephew of Sir William Dugdale, once the chairman of Aston Villa Football Club, and Birmingham-born documentary film-maker Joshua Dugdale is his cousin.
Originally posted by Korg Trinity
People like you are the reason we had labour in the first place
I voted LibDem by post. I dont particularly want Nick Clegg as PM but I do want Vince Cable as chancellor.
Originally posted by airvicemarshal So, no takers for the Lib-Dems or the Welsh or Scottish Nationalisrts?
I agree, but unless you've spotted an appetite for a revolution in the UK, which I haven't, then the only people offering any meaningful electoral reform are the LibDems.
We don't need to change the government , We need to change the system