ATS: Do you have a Novel Solution to the Gulf Oil Spill?

May 3, 2010

Do you have a Novel Solution to the Gulf Oil Spill?

Adam Hadhazy - Wed Apr 28, 7:25 pm ET
Gulf Oil Spill Is Testing Ground for Future Cleanup Tech
news.yahoo.com...

We've heard about chemical dispersants on the surface and now at the source of the leak. We've tried controlled burns and robots to activate the failed safety valves. We've watched as mother nature has overcome our traditional booms and skimmers.

Clearly its time for some new Ideas. Well ATS... this may be where we come in. Time has proven that this community has been on the forefront of thought and at the peak of awareness in modern and ancient technology.

We have yet to see the deployment of oil eating bacteria or nano sponges. There has been rumor on the internet of the capability of a thermonuclear device to be used to seal off the leak at the ocean floor.



Here is my thought on the subject:


Robotic Installation of a custom side outlet monoflow

SCOOP DIVERTER SADDLE TEE

before the first leak in the pipeline:

This is what a saddle tee looks like:

www.2lbin.com...

Here is an image of a basic scoop diverter:

www.heatpro.us...

Right now though... nothing seems to be working and the leak grows larger each day. What do you think we should do?

Your idea could save the gulf coast. Please post the title of your save the gulf invention in bold caps and then add any necessary description or links to support your idea.

oily warm regards,

Sri Oracle

[edit on 3-5-2010 by Sri Oracle]

I have a few ideas...

* Cat litter. Always works in my driveway for soaking up the 15 yr. old Toyota's droppings. Load up a bunch of C-130's with cat litter, dump it all over the coast and slick.

* Seize all physical assets of BP. Sell at auctions to fund the clean-up.

* Relax. Sit back and watch our gas prices go up to about $8/gallon by August. High-five an oil exec. if you know one.

* Fire up HAARP and create a huricane to suck up all the oil. Then, re-direct it to Venezuela or Cuba so they can be Katrina'd.

I have a few more but they are stupid and ridiculous.

Here is an idea I've been kicking around.

Haven't seen anyone mention it yet.

#1) Collect a bunch of really heavy rocks or boulders.

#2) Gather world fleets to carry said rocks/boulders.

#3) Pour rocks on area where hole is.

#4) Keep repeating until hole is plugged.

May take awhile, but by pure logic, eventually the hole will get plugged.

Due to the Pressure of the Oil gushing out, you will need very large rocks to start with. So the biggest ships on Earth will be necessary.

And heavy equipment to cut the rocks out of quarries.

ALTERNATE

#1) Use a Type of Concrete instead that can be created on location.

[edit on 3-5-2010 by muzzleflash]

I like the rock theory because there is no negative side effects for the environment.

It is also really cheap too.

All it requires is Human Cooperation, pretty much. And hard work.

What needs to happen is an equalisation of pressure at the location.

How we do this is something of great difficulty. Any attempt to get near the hole is dashed by the flow.

Perhaps if there was some way to drill into the area a number of times to release some of the pressure.

Korg.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
#3) Pour rocks on area where hole is.

#4) Keep repeating until hole is plugged.

I was wondering the other day what effect a nuke would have if detonated deep down right on the hole... Would it be possible to fuse the surrounding rock?

Maybe the nuke combined with specially selected rock? Have a nice glass / shock crystal plug, that should hold it?

(or maybe I just want to find a good way to nuke stuff without starting a war )

reply to post by Now_Then
I was thinking more conventional(explosives).
How about large shaped charges detonated on the ocean floor arrayed around the site of the leak, to throw massive amounts of the existing rock and mud on the ocean floor over the leak?

Originally posted by Now_Then

I was wondering the other day what effect a nuke would have if detonated deep down right on the hole...

I see several potential problems.

Radiation.

Potential bigger hole rather than closing it.

Before you can do that you need specifics on the site itself.
How big is the hole?
At what rate is the Oil Comming Out? (PSI)
How deep is it to the bottom of the ocean floor where the hole is?
ect, ect.
Then you go from there.

Ohh maybe even sink some old ships there on top of it too.

I would think sinking a dozen tanker sized ships on top of the hole would be so heavy and large it would probably start covering it up.

After you get the major pressure diverted by the sunken ships, you could then go in and start pouring rocks to fill the sides.

And you can FILL the tankers with ROCKS. This will make it heavy when it sinks thus giving more odds to beat the pressure.

[edit on 3-5-2010 by muzzleflash]

Instead of pouring rocks or objects on top of the hole,
I say you would have to "cork" it somehow, and finding a way to make that cork stick.

Originally posted by Common Good
Instead of pouring rocks or objects on top of the hole,
I say you would have to "cork" it somehow, and finding a way to make that cork stick.

That will take you weeks to figure out.

We can start with the rock solution right now.

Start collecting rocks and spare ships to sink.

[edit on 3-5-2010 by muzzleflash]

reply to post by muzzleflash


Actually, Ijust did. (and it only took reading your post).

Maybe it we were somehow able to get enough weight on that cork to keep it down.
Because rocks on top of it wont stop it from leaking, it will just slow it down. But if you cork it first, THEN load the rocks on top of that .

Just a thought.

Drill a side shaft close to but not as deep as the original shaft. Drop a bomb in it.

I think the problem is not capping it. It is saving that oil. I think that's the big hold up. They want that oil.

My idea would be the use of directional or shaped charges / explosives.
Lets say we drilled 5 new holes in the shape of a pentagon (one each corner) around the existing geyser leak. Lets only drill half the depth or even two thirds the depth of the existing hole. Send down some of the aforementioned shaped charges directed toward the centre well / hole.
Then boom, detonate my charges we just squished closed the leak like a straw being squashed.
How big and far away these new holes would have to be I've no idea. For the sake of argument lets start at around 5 metres.

If BP do this, I want it noted that I saved the world. Some cash wouldn't hurt either.

Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

Actually, Ijust did. (and it only took reading your post).

Maybe it we were somehow able to get enough weight on that cork to keep it down.
Because rocks on top of it wont stop it from leaking, it will just slow it down. But if you cork it first, THEN load the rocks on top of that .

Just a thought.

Well what will you cork it with that weighs enough??

A really big rock???

Think really gigantic balloon made out of a very streatchy and strong fiber and huge enough to contain the oil while it's being attaching it to the pipe...
When it's attached - open it from the top and start sucking off the oil.

Ok, so, at least I'm thinking about it - and have been all day - but I have no idea how viable something like this is... If at all... But, I'm thinking!

lol Yeah I know - someone hear a fly fart...

I think the pressure of oil gushing out of the hole would rule out dropping anything onto the hole-the oil pressure would just push any rocks etc out of the way.

BP say they are building steel caps to cover the hole-How the hell will they be able to sit the caps over such immense pressure?

The pressure is the main problem I think,so drilling some kind of relief well may have to be done to alleviate the pressure.

Problem is,what if there is such an amount of oil under there that the relief well also blows?

Dark days for the oceans,and maybe for the whole planet if this carries on for 90 days like they say it could.

reply to post by Silcone Synapse


How ironic would that be?

We Live On Oil, And We Might Also Die By It.

-more on topic.-

Another Idea... Cone It.

Picture a cone(A big ass cone) with a hose(big ass hose) attatched to the top of it. It will automatically keep the oil from getting to anymore of the water, and we could probably salvage a lot of it in the process.


Edit-cg

[edit on 3-5-2010 by Common Good]

reply to post by muzzleflash


Well it's very deep down, it would be almost impossible to drop things from the surface and have them end up at a relatively small area on the sea bed, you would have to place things down there, or guide them in somehow.

For instance have you seen the ship wreak hunters and other treasure hunters and how much guess work they have to put into locating things on the bottom of the sea? The ships break up and every piece takes a very unique journey down, there are millions of variables - it's literally a practical demonstration chaos theory... One way would be to have regular shaped items to drop, (same mass and shape) and then you may have a slim hope of predicting how they will behave, but rocks and ships, they could end up anywhere unless they were somehow guided into place.




I think we should get everyone involved, put them into a crushing machine and form them into a plug...