Mother Of All Gushers Could Kill Earth's Oceans

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They look bad , but not that bad. Need some live video feed or something.

Well folks, they had a set back:
www.cnn.com...

I just don't see how they can cap it. Why don't they use a cone? I was surprized at the rectangular shape of the dome.

What if they build a massive steel box and drop it on top of the area where the pipe is leaking?

Originally posted by missvicky
Well folks, they had a set back:
www.cnn.com...

I just don't see how they can cap it. Why don't they use a cone? I was surprized at the rectangular shape of the dome.

honestly, I think big boulders are the best way to go.

can just put them in a pile,
and fill in the holes with dirt.

it's a tried and tested method used by nature.

I think we need a chemist to figure out what reacts well with oil and not water. Find something that will harden the oil so that it creates it's own seal for the hole. Dump a bunch of this chemical all around the spill until it's over with. Not sure what can do this, though.

I think the 5000 barrel a day is a lie. I have read somewhere that it might be 5x time more. On a "credible" news site I think.

Maybe someone should contact Red Adair with their Ouija Board? Post response here first!

Originally posted by ickylevel
I think the 5000 barrel a day is a lie. I have read somewhere that it might be 5x time more. On a "credible" news site I think.

About a week ago, the Wall Street Journal estimated the figure here at 25,000 barrels a day.

The Journal also has the opinions of the Secretary of the Interior, various industry leaders, experts, NOOA experts, etc. here. Spoiler: it ain't pretty and when all the most "conservative" voices are forced to admit the magnitude, you know its most likely even worse.

I think the calculation on page 20 of the volume of ocean
water likely to be polluted by the spill needs to be redone,
as it seems to lack the third dimension (surface x mean
depth of oceans).

The volume of all ocean water is surely on Internet. You do
not have to calculate it.

reply to post by Udo Hohnekamp Lux.


Already done, though if someone can put better math to the figures, go at it.



There's 343 sextillion gallons in the oceans, with an average depth of 13240ft, just over 2.5 miles. You can click the "thread" button below my post to go over the math I figured, and see if there's any errors.

Thanks.

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Oh there are estimates of 60000 barrels a day. However, if what this guy says is true, then it is totally irrelevant because ALL 50.000.000 barrels of oil that are thought to exist in this particular oil reservoir will be spilled before they contain it.


Link

Few people are more apocalyptic than Matt Simmons, retired chairman of the energy investment banking firm Simmons & Co. International, and a veteran of 41 years in the industry. Simmons, who will speak at the Offshore Technology Conference in Houston this week, has been famous in recent years for warning that the industry is running out of oil.
Now he sees a disaster on an epic scale as the pressurized subterranean reservoir known as the Macondo field, estimated to hold 50 million barrels of oil, continues to vent into the gulf. "It really is a catastrophe," Simmons said. "I don't think they're going to be able to put the leak out until the reservoir depletes. It's just too technically challenging."

Let's hope his 41 years in the industry counts for sh**

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Well at that rate of spillage and estimate of capacity, it would take over two years to deplete. Are they just going to give up on ideas I also question the official figure of 50 million barrels. I doubt anyone is going to let the public know the size of the reserve anytime soon. One source said it's got over a billion barrels under there!

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Yeah right, there is that. As I have said in another thread: There are so many lies being told and so many guesstimates that they are losing track. I am truly hoping (as there is little else I can do) that this guy is off his rocker and that he is wrong.

I for one don't think they are going to give up but I must say that the efforts up til now are pretty paltry and insignificant. They really should have all the experts and geniuses in the world thrown together in a room to brainstorm the hell out of this. Not Jury Duty but Brainstorm Duty.

Originally posted by LittleMaster

Cover-Up Apparently, the government and BP are covering up more than just the leaking oil well today. A new story has emerged blaming the explosion on a methane gas bubble caused by cement stoppers that the rig workers put in the hole to close it up. According to the story, the gas bubble broke the seals and traveled up the column, growing as it proceeded up, then exploding when it hit the floor of the rig. Isn't it amazing how methane gas knows when to explode around humans! The gas must be intelligent enough to know how to follow the column up to the rig and THEN explode! If this story were true, there would not be an oil rig left on the Earth. They all would have exploded. Plus, methane gas would have blown up into a fireball at the BASE of the rig, not traveling all the way up to the floor. Once again, a la 911, a neat little package story has been created for the mindless masses who believe most anything they are told.

News

Good Read?

No, not a good read. It is a pretty good example of someone who really has no idea what they're talking about, but does have a platform to say it.

Where do people come up with this stuff? Yes, methane gas must be at least as intelligent as the water that we shower with, because it too follows the path of least resistance when it's under pressure and channeled by pipe. And the drill pipe goes all the way to the drill floor, and the riser comes pretty close. Methane gas won't ignite until it has a correct mixture of air/methane and an ignition source. So, yes, methane is a smart gas.

Quite a few rigs HAVE blown up, killing enough people in the industry that it has a stereotype as one of the more dangerous industries to work in. Drilling rig hands are doing their best NOT to get killed at work, you can be sure of that.

reply to post by LittleMaster

They look bad , but not that bad. Need some live video feed or something.

Here ya go.......oil from underwater camera footage.

Underwater video of Oil

BTW your other link to Illuminati conspiracy story was crappola.

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Originally posted by lowki
honestly, I think big boulders are the best way to go.

can just put them in a pile,
and fill in the holes with dirt.

it's a tried and tested method used by nature.

At the pressures this thing is leaking at, I doubt it would be possible to get anything to block it without being blown clear unless it was forced in there somehow.

Not more bangs please!

Originally posted by Udo Hohnekamp Lux.
I think the calculation on page 20 of the volume of ocean
water likely to be polluted by the spill needs to be redone,
as it seems to lack the third dimension (surface x mean
depth of oceans).

The volume of all ocean water is surely on Internet. You do
not have to calculate it.

the calculation was with surface area.
as oil rises to the surface,
it be a long term calculation,
when the oil disperses evenly across the surface.


though of course some of it can get soaked up by flora and fauna,
some might wash ashore.


okay but say it's distributed through the top 250 meters.

1000*1000*250
250,000,000
at one part per million
so 250 litres per kilometer.

if it ends up the 50 million barrel figure
(50000000 * 159)/250

surface-area*height = volume
surface area of earth by en.wikipedia.org... is 361132000 km^2
and height is 0.250 of a kilometer.
361132000*0.250

to get percentage
amount/total

> ((50000000 * 159)/250) /(361132000*0.25)

((50000000 * 159) / 250) / (3.61132E8 * 0.25) = approx. 0.35222578


so that would be 35 percent of the top 250 meters of the ocean.
it could of course spread more evenly,
perhaps less.

can also be stopped earlier.

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Originally posted by nerbot

Originally posted by lowki
honestly, I think big boulders are the best way to go.

can just put them in a pile,
and fill in the holes with dirt.

it's a tried and tested method used by nature.

At the pressures this thing is leaking at, I doubt it would be possible to get anything to block it without being blown clear unless it was forced in there somehow.

Not more bangs please!

think about it,
even if some of the boulders drop next to it,
they'd be a pile with a hole in between,
but rocks will be forced into the hole
by the rocks pressing on them from around.

reply to post by kinda kurious


Crap. Thank you. Those are the waters i grew up in, and its sad, real sad!!!

I dont know why there already is a conspiracy floating around about this being a lie. :shk:

Thank you again.

I spoke to my son in Florida and he says the sky is already looking "reddish"
:shk: