Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate!

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM

 

Now some very interesting things pops out of that text.
First, I had no idea that Broccoli was behind the production.
Broccoli connected with Diamonds are Forever... but it makes sense
Broccoli was involved because Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is based on an Ian Fleming story.

Cubby Broccoli and his partner had the rights to all of Fleming's books except "Casino Royale," which had been purchased earlier by an American TV company, so no surprise. Remember, we have proven that the LM in the London Science Museum had nothing to do with "Diamonds Are Forever."

LOL, what a pointless post.
What was the point of your post?
Just repeat what everyone else already said?

reply to post by Ove38

It's definitely not the same Lunar Module seen in the Apollo 11 moon photos.

Wrong. As shown above, it is the same lunar module before the foil was added in the mating process.

The Lunar Module in Londons Science Museum, matches perfectly with the Apollo 11 moon photos.

That is because it is a well made replica.

reply to post by DJW001

Wrong. As shown above, it is the same lunar module before the foil was added in the mating process.

Why would they wait till then?
Even you noticed that technician did not look to be in a safe position..
Seems odd to me with the LM hanging from a crane.

reply to post by backinblack

Why would they wait till then?
Even you noticed that technician did not look to be in a safe position..
Seems odd to me with the LM hanging from a crane

They need to be certain that the probes on the LM's pads were properly stowed and functional. Once they were certain that everything was operating and mated properly, they could wrap the pads. The crane could safely support the weight of the entire stack. Again, quite a bit of effort for a hoax, don't you think? Why would they go to so much trouble if the spacecraft were just a dummy, and the real action was taking place at Pinewood Studios. Or was it Area 51? Or Disneyland? The hoax believers need to have some sort of conference to get their story straight.

Originally posted by DJW001

Yes. The "gold foil" was put on the lander's pads during the final mating process:

Ok, quite possible, but provide the source please
The pictures dont show anything.
At this point you want us to assume thats what they were doing.

Originally posted by DJW001
Again, quite a bit of effort for a hoax, don't you think? Why would they go to so much trouble if the spacecraft were just a dummy, and the real action was taking place at Pinewood Studios. Or was it Area 51? Or Disneyland? The hoax believers need to have some sort of conference to get their story straight.

I dont see the contradiction here.


You have people wanting to explore the south pole or north pole, going through all preparation, spending all that money, the training, the science, and still end up lying about actually making it.

Chris Columbus, raised money, made preparations to travel around the world.
He assumed he made it to the far east.
He didnt, and he basically lied about it calling the natives "Indians".

The end driver to all of this is MONEY.
And Apollo was BIG MONEY.

reply to post by FoosM

You have people wanting to explore the south pole or north pole, going through all preparation, spending all that money, the training, the science, and still end up lying about actually making it.

Could you provide a documented example of that, please?

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM

 

You have people wanting to explore the south pole or north pole, going through all preparation, spending all that money, the training, the science, and still end up lying about actually making it.

Could you provide a documented example of that, please?

I did, in this very thread.
When I discussed how scientists, researchers, etc
Have to validate claims of science, and discovery.

It was based on a big fight between two explorers claiming they were the first to reach the south or north (I forget which) pole.

I know this thread is really old and really drawn out with so many posts, but I just wanted to say one of my professors in my department worked on the space shuttle. He dealt with the thermal systems inside the shuttle and Apollo* itself.

So , if this whole thing was a hoax, then his whole career is a lie. He would not be able to tell his classes the exact things he worked on in the shuttle. But he did. So this whole moon landing hoax really is ludicrous. No I will not relay questions from you to him. This topic really needs to rest...

Originally posted by DJW001

They probably used plywood for the parts that didn't show. It's just a big Airfix model, not an actual spacecraft. It probably wasn't all that expensive.

If somebody told me that some small museum in a foreign country commissioned a local special effects company that specializes in matte paintings to make a life size replica of the Apollo LM back in the early 70's. I would expect something no better than this:




An impression of the real thing.

Originally posted by fordrew
I know this thread is really old and really drawn out with so many posts, but I just wanted to say one of my professors in my department worked on the space shuttle. He dealt with the thermal systems inside the shuttle itself.

So , if this whole thing was a hoax, then his whole career is a lie. He would not be able to tell his classes the exact things he worked on in the shuttle. But he did. So this whole moon landing hoax really is ludicrous. No I will not relay questions from you to him. This topic really needs to rest...

Your professor worked on the Shuttle.
And somehow this proves Apollo?

Im sorry, I dont get it.
The shuttle that stayed in LEO.
The shuttle that never went past the VABs or landed on the moon.
That shuttle?
Thats your proof?

reply to post by FoosM

I did, in this very thread.
When I discussed how scientists, researchers, etc
Have to validate claims of science, and discovery.

It was based on a big fight between two explorers claiming they were the first to reach the south or north (I forget which) pole.

In other words, no, you cannot find a single example of someone making elaborate preparations for an excursion and then lying about actually making it. Get googling.

Originally posted by FoosM

Originally posted by fordrew
I know this thread is really old and really drawn out with so many posts, but I just wanted to say one of my professors in my department worked on the space shuttle. He dealt with the thermal systems inside the shuttle itself.

So , if this whole thing was a hoax, then his whole career is a lie. He would not be able to tell his classes the exact things he worked on in the shuttle. But he did. So this whole moon landing hoax really is ludicrous. No I will not relay questions from you to him. This topic really needs to rest...

Your professor worked on the Shuttle.
And somehow this proves Apollo?

Im sorry, I dont get it.
The shuttle that stayed in LEO.
The shuttle that never went past the VABs or landed on the moon.
That shuttle?
Thats your proof?

Yes yes he worked on the thermal systems in Apollo too. Sorry I forgot to mention that.

reply to post by FoosM

If somebody told me that some small museum in a foreign country commissioned a local special effects company that specializes in matte paintings to make a life size replica of the Apollo LM back in the early 70's. I would expect something no better than this:

On the other hand, if someone told you that a huge museum in an imperial capital commissioned a company that builds props for the longest running science fiction program of all time, and does special effects for the James Bond franchise, you would expect something like this:



planespot.com...

But then, you do have a history of very low expectations.

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Ove38

 

Again....rubbish nonsense:

It wasn't made for a James Bond movie. It was made for the 1969 Apollo 11 movie

The LM that flew on Apollo 11 was built in New York State, USA...at the Grumman Corporation factory on Long Island.

It was the fifth LM produced at the Grumman factory. LM-5.

www.militaryphotos.net...

web.mac.com...

fi.edu...

www.hq.nasa.gov...

historical.ha.com...

home.earthlink.net...

en.wikipedia.org...

Here's a nice video from Grumman about the LM.
Grumman Promo Video: The Lunar Module Story (1989)
vimeo.com...

reply to post by FoosM

An impression of the real thing.

How FoosM sees the entire space program:

Originally posted by Ove38
The Apollo 11 Lunar Module was made at the Pinewood film Studios for the 1969 Apollo 11 movie.
Later in 1977 it was transferred to the museum.

Sorry I pressed the wrong "reply to". That was the claim you made. Prove it. I don't question that there was an LM replica made in Pinewood for the museum. So where's the proof? Any of it? Even a tiny bit?

Mission accomplished, Ove. Just a few simple comments were enough to get this thread bickering for two days over an exhibit in a museum and James Bond movies. Go back to 4Chan and tell them how fun and easy it is.

Originally posted by fordrew

Originally posted by FoosM

Originally posted by fordrew
I know this thread is really old and really drawn out with so many posts, but I just wanted to say one of my professors in my department worked on the space shuttle. He dealt with the thermal systems inside the shuttle itself.

So , if this whole thing was a hoax, then his whole career is a lie. He would not be able to tell his classes the exact things he worked on in the shuttle. But he did. So this whole moon landing hoax really is ludicrous. No I will not relay questions from you to him. This topic really needs to rest...

Your professor worked on the Shuttle.
And somehow this proves Apollo?

Im sorry, I dont get it.
The shuttle that stayed in LEO.
The shuttle that never went past the VABs or landed on the moon.
That shuttle?
Thats your proof?

Yes yes he worked on the thermal systems in Apollo too. Sorry I forgot to mention that.

So he worked on the thermal systems of Apollo.
You mean the one that kept the space craft cool, or warm?

Originally posted by DJW001
...Why would they go to so much trouble if the spacecraft were just a dummy, and the real action was taking place at Pinewood Studios....

The whole thing was a show off that had to turn out successful, no matter what. So the real and not so successful Apollo story was beefed up with fake photos and videos. The Apollo story is only half true. It didn't lead to men on the moon, it only lead to men in earth orbit, like Skylab and the International Space Station.


Notice the docking Apollo command module