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Originally posted by FoosM
The pictures of the moon come first!
How is that possible?
The photos are supposed to go in order!
Instead of the moon, it should have been photos of the Earth.
The image numbers indicate the actual sequence the photos were taken in a magazine. You can double-check the sequence by looking at the photo index.
Originally posted by FoosM
How do you explain this then?
Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by FoosM
I just explained, how big of a crater would they want to make?
They wouldn't want any particular size, they have the engine and the surface, the size of the crater is immaterial. If it creates a tiny crater, then that's legitimate, if it creates a huge one, then that's legitimate.
If it created such a huge crater that it was unsafe or impossible, then it would also have done that for real, which is a dead giveaway. Why do you think they would be so stupid?
1966 NASA Langley Research Center footage of jet blast erosion effects on different surfaces. These tests were performed in Langley's 60-ft. vacuum sphere and 55-ft. vacuum cylinder and were part of an investigation to study the impact of the Lunar Lander's propulsion systems on the lunar surface.
Links to what?
Independent scientists disagreeing with the depth of dust on the moon or similar.
Originally posted by nataylor
That LPI page is sorting the images alphabetically, not numerically.
Hence the -10xxx images are listed before the -9xxx images.
Happens all the time to me on my computer when people send you files named things like "file1.ext," "file2.ext," etc. Sort them by name and "file11.ext" gets listed before "file2.ext."edit on 29-3-2011 by nataylor because: (no reason given)
1966 NASA Langley Research Center footage of jet blast erosion effects on different surfaces. These tests were performed in Langley's 60-ft. vacuum sphere and 55-ft. vacuum cylinder and were part of an investigation to study the impact of the Lunar Lander's propulsion systems on the lunar surface.
You can assume the numbering of photos on a magazine are in chronological order.
Originally posted by FoosM
I can no longer assume the photo sequences are following the correct timeline.
Originally posted by FoosM
I think you got my point.
But let NASA make it for you... its also for DJ who doesnt think soil would blast all over the place:
...
Every case a crater.
...
How do you account for this exponent?
I dont recall saying it that way, but anyway, I didnt say that happened, I said it could happen if the craft had made a large crater. But actually, yes there have been studies done on regolith displacement for future mission planning. I believe I made a post on it.
This however doesn't mean it was impossible for moscow to independantly track the mission of apollo.
How? Very simple, a satelite network array. The only way he could prove empirically that it was impossible is to have on record every satelite owned by the soviets.
How could they track apollo's mission you ask? Very simple. You have a satelite in line of sight of the moon, which piggy backs this imformation to another satelite that is also in line of sight of the preceding satelite, which then transfers the information back to the ground.
Originally posted by Laokin
P.S.
How can Buzz Aldrin get away with punching a dude square in the jaw when dude didn't do anything but say in all intents and purposes "Buzz, it's my opinion you are a fraud."
That was a clear cut case of assault.
Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by FoosM
I think you got my point.
But let NASA make it for you... its also for DJ who doesnt think soil would blast all over the place:
...
Every case a crater.
...
How do you account for this exponent?
Easily. If NASA were faking the landings, and their tests truly indicated a crater would be formed, then we would see a crater on the footage.
The first objective was to obtain high resolution plume flow field characteristics for the descent stage engine firing for the purpose of tracking the lunar soil debris cloud. The second objective was to obtain pressure forces and moments on the ascent stage vehicle due to plume interaction with the descent stage, as well as plume heating environments on the surface of the descent stage components in close proximity to the ascent stage engine plume.
Originally posted by FoosM
Yet no damage and no dust was found in the footpads of most missions.
Maybe you have a hard time grasping the idea of lying to the public?
Originally posted by dereks
Originally posted by FoosM
Yet no damage and no dust was found in the footpads of most missions.
Ver simply - what was the % of thrust used just before touchdown.
Why should there be any damage?
Originally posted by FoosM
Debris was flying long "just before touchdown"
...no dust was found in the footpads....
P.S.
How can Buzz Aldrin get away with punching a dude square in the jaw when dude didn't do anything but say in all intents and purposes "Buzz, it's my opinion you are a fraud."
That was a clear cut case of assault.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM
Maybe you have a hard time grasping the idea of lying to the public?
I will not make the obvious wisecrack,,, I will not make the obvious wisecrack... I will not make the obvious wisecrack....
If the whole lunar landing program were a hoax, why release this footage at all? After all, you claim that NASA was completely in control of all the information. Why not slap a "Top Secret" sticker on it and bury it in a locked filing cabinet?
Robert Strange McNamara (June 9, 1916 – July 6, 2009)[4] was an American business executive and the eighth Secretary of Defense, serving under Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson from 1961 to 1968, during which time he played a large role in escalating the United States involvement in the Vietnam War.[5] Following that he served as President of the World Bank from 1968 until 1981. McNamara was responsible for the institution of systems analysis in public policy, which developed into the discipline known today as policy analysis.
The death sentence finally came in 1968. NASA was forced to kill all plans for future Saturn production in August of that year, including early procurement for SA-516, SA-517, and Saturn 1Bs SA-215 and SA-216. The end came weeks before the first manned Apollo 7 mission and months before the third Saturn 5 propelled three Apollo 8 astronauts into lunar orbit.
Soon after the successful Apollo 11 lunar landing in July 1969, NASA shelved plans for an Apollo 20 mission. Instead, a two-stage Saturn 5 was assigned to orbit an Apollo Applications "Dry Workshop". Several Saturn 1B rockets would carry crews to the station. Plans eventually called for SA-513 to orbit the workshop, which was renamed "Skylab" in 1970. SA-514 and SA-515 would launch Apollo 18 and 19, respectively, after the Skylab program ended.
Well let me ask you this question.
Why completely erase the one tool that achieved so much ?
The Saturn 5?
Originally posted by FoosM
Why would they have to have craters in their footage?
Maybe you have a hard time grasping the idea of lying to the public?
I just showed you examples of the craters being made in the tests.
You know that barely any crater at all was made during the landing.
There is your example of the two not matching.
How do you explain it?