Stand up or leave...

As most of you know my home state of wv and in my actual county was hit with the mine explosion... Well our president came to host a memorial. Before the memorial we were told by the governor we could not protest or talk about obama anytime hes in our state. Well even i know we have a right for peaceful protest. Dont get me wrong though I actually think obamas a good person. Well all the Obama haters I know were all mad about that. I told them that we have the right to protest if we want to. They replied that they dont want to get in trouble. The point of this post is to point out that we as Americans are always saying we will defend our rights, but i never see any action or anyone trying to do there part as an american citizen. Even me a 15year old kid had the guts to write my governer and tell him not to deny me my rights. If i can do that then why cant the rest of us atleast stand up for the rights stolen from us everyday? -chaseninja

reply to post by chaseninja


Your rights are not stolen everyday.... If so please explain. You want to talk about having your rights ripped away join the Military (like me) or go visit a third world country. You are a kid and know no better.

I do not mean to sound rude but seriously your rights are not being taken away nor have you had them taken away. This is fear mongering and disinformation at its finest.

Once again I apologize if I seem kind of rude but you really have no idea.

And in most of the other countries in the world you are held for treason and killed for slandering your president or leader country. But yes you do have the right for a peaceful protest no matter what anyone tells you. So do it because all they can do is take you to jail for a night and not charge you with anything accept disturbing the peace if you get roudy and loud.

[edit on 27-4-2010 by Reign02]

reply to post by chaseninja


You're gutsy, kiddo...and right.
I admire that.
If more kids these days had half the good sense that you do, the future of this country would be very bright.
You should get into politics, it seems like you have that intangible that could help you be successful.

reply to post by Reign02


its ok that you were rude. I never said my rights taken away I said our. that includes you. If your rights are taken in the military then stand up for yourself thats all that im trying to say. Just dont assume i dont know better because im a kid

First rule of Obama club: you do not talk about Obama club

Second rule of Obama club: you do not talk about Obama club.

In the military we serve the government and have no real rights. We cannot even show support for presidential canidates. If I stand up for my civilian rights I would be put in confinment for deriliction of duty and or disobeying a direct order. Military rights is something completely different than civilian rights.

reply to post by Matthew Dark


I do want to get into politics but then you get sites like this after you. atleast i would be able to talk to the people talking about me. thanks for the reply,

reply to post by Reign02


I can respect that. But you always have a choice to stand up for yourself you know? even in the military. it just all depends on how much your willing to risk.

reply to post by chaseninja


Just a thought here, did it ever occur to you that the governor said that out of respect for the tragic loss of 27 miners in your state, there is a time and a place for everything and certainly the time and place wasn't at this memorial. If you want to protest there are 364 other days of the year.

reply to post by Canadianinsight


hahaha niiiiccceee

reply to post by Aquarius1


yes, i actually knew one of the miners... but he said not before hand or after the memorial or anytime hes in the state. if it was just this one time i wouldnt have thought anything of it

Why would you be so insensitive and selfish as to even want to stage a political protest at a time like like?

For cryin' out loud, the President was there to comfort people. And whether you like it or not, many people in this country respect and appreciate President Obama. His visit probably meant a great deal to many of those people.

There is a time and place for everything. If you have a gripe about something, use the channels available. Have some respect and consideration for the grief of others.

reply to post by chaseninja

Well our president came to host a memorial. Before the memorial we were told by the governor we could not protest or talk about obama anytime hes in our state

I would guess that the governor did that, so that the memorial would not be marred by protests. That would be a tragedy for the family members of those who died. The last thing this country needs is another funeral where protesters, like that nutty alleged Baptist group, ruins the funerals of American soldiers.
There is a time and place for protest, but not at memorials and funerals.

reply to post by Alethea


im so sorry if this offended you or anyone. this thread isnt about the miners thats just what caused it to be said that we cant protest. like i said i like obama but i dnt like being told i cant do something that i have a right for. please dont make this a bash chaseninja thread and get back on the topic of standing up for your beliefs and rights that story was just to start the thread..

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


protests at funerals are disrespectful but for the last time he said ever..

reply to post by chaseninja


First rule of politics, kid...don't apologize.
(the second rule is don't get caught in a cheap motel with a bunch of drugs and a dead hooker...but you have to wait until at least your second term...)
Some people just wait for their turn to talk, instead of listening (or reading, as the case may be.)
I'm noticing a bunch of people jumping on you and basically branding you as the type to disrupt a funeral with some mumbo jumbo protest; I know that's not what you're saying.
Don't ignore them, but don't try to correct them either; you'll get nowhere.
This is a thread about the basic right to stand up for yourself, right?
Well, you're doing a good job so far.

reply to post by Matthew Dark

I'm noticing a bunch of people jumping on you and basically branding you as the type to disrupt a funeral with some mumbo jumbo protest; I know that's not what you're saying.

Yes, I don't think anyone thinks that he is saying that, and IN FACT, I don't see where ANYONE on this thread SAID that.
In fact, I (and others) made a point of saying that I (we) were supposing that the governor made the statement because of such a possibility, NOT that the OP was like that.
Don't twist words. No one accused him of protesting or considering protesting at funerals.
In addition, you fail to realize that if there were protests of Obama while he was in WV, then the Lame Stream Media would make THAT the news event, NOT the Memorial.

reply to post by Matthew Dark


thanks ill remember those especially the hooker part hahaha

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


hes not twisting words thats whats happening the thread isnt about the mining incident but im not explaining it anymore

i agree with you in principle, chasen, but i would like to think the point was it wasn't the time or place, considering the attention would be and should be on the victims. i've seen numerous politicians speak in front of groups and inevitably, there are protestors that are often "escorted" out. there is free speech, but there is also an expectation that people can assemble to speak and be heard. (though i note you said even "peaceful protests.")

i would like to see a source to the governor's statement that a peaceful protest could never occur if the president was in the state. because that would be a problem and, regardless of how wv handled it, it would be blatantly unconstitutional.