Starchild DNA Finally Shown as Non Human on Fathers Side

Hi All,

We have all heard of the star child skull and up untill now there has many problems with recovering the full DNA for testing but that has all changed and is great news for everyone here at ATS

Article link and quote below:

''This past weekend I met with the geneticist working on the Starchild's DNA. He explained how he can now prove the Starchild is not entirely human, which has been our position for years. Now it is no longer a question of "if," but of "when" and "how" we spread this astounding new reality beyond the mailing list. First, though, let me bring the list's newcomers up to speed.


In 2003 we had a DNA analysis that used human-only primers to recover the Starchild's mitochondrial DNA, the DNA outside the nucleus, which comes from the mother and her genetic line. That meant its mother was human. But we could not recover its nuclear DNA, which comes from both mother and father, which meant its father was not a human. Unfortunately, with the recovery technology of 2003 we couldn't prove what he was, which left us in scientific limbo. The "no result" from the search for the nuclear DNA clearly meant Dad wasn't human, but we could not prove that fact beyond all possible doubt.

Now, in 2010, there have been many improvements in the recovery process, and those improvements have been applied to the Starchild skull with the stunning result you see below. This is a gel sheet that shows a clear recovery of its nuclear DNA, which could not be done in 2003. ''

Full article here with DNA gel sheets:

exopolitics.blogs.com...

Amazing!!

I'm part of the email list for the Starchild Project. Are you as well? The second I read your post I scrambled to my inbox to see if there was an email I missed.

Needless to say I'm excited for the conclusion of these tests. Whether or not I wish for one result over another, which I do by the way as I'd like it so badly to be alien related, I just want it to be over with already. If it ends up being a new Earth-born species, wonderful. If it ends up being an alien-human hybrid, even better.

reply to post by Havick007


Lloyd is one hell of a persistent person, constantly coming up against blank walls. He still doesn't have any evidence of his "Star Child" being anything but the product of humans. The quotes below from the article in the link say it all: INCONCLUSIVE! NOT DEFINITE. WE DON'T KNOW. WE GOT MORE WORK. WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER YET. KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED.

Now it is no longer a question of "if," but of "when" and "how" -

which is what the geneticist is confident will happen over the next weeks and months---

I should add that I still can't reveal the name of the geneticist or where he works until we are ready to formally present his results to the world.

ergo: no double-blind tests!


[edit on 25-4-2010 by The Shrike]

Is there anything new? I think this was posted about a month ago or so and people were flipping out because at the end of his letter to followers he said that he wanted money from us.

Just read that article, the comments are from march 19th and he does ask for money in the last bit. He is waiting to reveal most of the information for some reason.

I am personally fascinated with this but i just wanted to point this out.

reply to post by BeastMaster2012


I searched for this new's before posting and couldnt find it this article is only a few weeks old.

Also in ref to above post if you read the article the DNA has been shown to not be Human -

''In the one below, and again at the bottom, you see the stunning report that in a string of 342 base pairs (another good length), "No significant similarity (is) found." To recover a stretch of base pairs as long as that with NO reference in the NIH database is astounding because it means there is no known earthly corollary for what has been analyzed! This incredible anomaly will put the Starchild in history books!!! ''

''Please understand that this result has now been verified several times, and a few more different fragments have been identified that cannot be matched in this database to anything known. Despite that fact, mainstream skeptics will be obligated by their positions to try to say it's some kind of gibberish or some kind of mistake because in their world view it simply can't be true. ''

The mother's side is Human but not the Father's going by the article, it has always been difficult to test the father's DNA but now in 2010 they have been able to do it

[edit on 25-4-2010 by Havick007]

I wouldn't get too excited, and this news letter seems a little bit pre-mature to me. They are not even done fully testing the results against everything in the database.

Also I would have to agree with some of the points made in the comments in the article. 342 base pairs out of 3 billion is rather insignificant. Not to mention if it really is half ET in origin there is not telling how many base pairs that could have. Also DNA test that were previously preformed have shown it to be fully human.

reply to post by Havick007


Well here is a possible facial reconstruction. Looks odd to me.



[edit on 25-4-2010 by SLAYER69]

reply to post by Havick007


Havick007.....

I think it would be much better for all concerned if this discussion continued in this recent, very detailed & very extensive thread.

Otherwise, mush information & discussion will be lost.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


Thats the whole things it happens all to often, in such long threads the information gets lost.

Originally posted by Havick007
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

Thats the whole things it happens all to often, in such long threads the information gets lost.

Havick007....

In my opinion.....

Not in this case.

reply to post by Havick007

Starchild DNA Finally Shown as Non Human on Fathers Side

It all assumes that the outcast DNA... or that which was not prevalent in the construction of the being, had to come from an ET source. The father therefore MUST be alien.

In college back in the 70s (when we were all still hunting dinosaurs) it was postulated that human DNA, like that of so many other lower lifeforms, was not incapable of melding with a similar sample in the process of evolving. Several instances were presented of how this works in vegetation but to date (then) none had been witnessed with animal life.

Okay, so what if a turtle mates with an antelope? Does it work? No. In fact, the turtle is roughshod just to get some in his own species. But what of dogs and cats?

IIIeeee! Well, we can't have that. No siree.

Nature will allow what nature will allow. After that, the blending will be problematic regardless of technology. If Starchild is anything but human, we may rest assured that the experiment will not likely be repeated.

I think that God.. or nature, or whatever, guarantees that life succeeds only when t is worthy and that any attempt to circumvent the process is doomed to failure.

reply to post by redoubt


You are correct, the sperm and egg of each species is of it's own design. Foreign sperm will not be tolerated to penetrate the egg of another, different, species. It is the genetic make up, no mates, no procreation.

I think this is why there are so many abduction claims. IF, and only if, there are aliens, and they are trying ot figure out a way to perpetuate their species because they have inbred too much or that they "believe" a combination would be even better, then I could see it.

We will see.

If what was said is true, ... then why is not hitting the mainstream news yet ??? surely such a find would be of most benefit to geneticists, archeologists, as well as many other scientists.

They should not have just one geneticist, who is hell bent on proving the star child to be half alien studying it. they should have a team of objective geneticists working on it.

It seems the world is cut and dry, solid all the way through, and they don't want to hear about anything that could change their way of thiking or beleif's. They would rather watch American Idol as they stuff their mouths with cheeto's and take small intermissions to wipe the drool from their faces.

Extraterrestrial life !!! New world order !! pfff, the average person only wants to know who's on " dancing with the stars' this week.

they literaly cannot comprehend findings of this nature, or the universe in general.

Originally posted by Havick007

But we could not recover its nuclear DNA, which meant its father was not a human.

Wait, what?

The geneticist could not recover the nuclear DNA, so it mean the father was not human...WTF???

This guy is clearly jumping to conclusion.

One lab already tested the DNA and said it was completely human apparently , strikes me the guy is grasping at straws !


OP I take it you didnt read the comments on the page you linked most of them seem well informed about this and maybe a little too scepticle for you

reply to post by Jigore


That was from the original testing, you may have missed this part:

''Now, in 2010, there have been many improvements in the recovery process, and those improvements have been applied to the Starchild skull with the stunning result you see below. This is a gel sheet that shows a clear recovery of its nuclear DNA, which could not be done in 2003. ''

Everything is in the article link in OP along with gel slids, although they dont look like much to me i aint no genetisist

reply to post by mister h


The mother's side was Human. They could only test the father's side this year with advances in DNA research etc etc.

Are people reading the article?? and yes i read it, if people need i will quote the entire article here

[edit on 25-4-2010 by Havick007]

I'm sorry, but I still don't buy the whole "human/alien hybrid" angle. There are just so many issues with it.

But, hey, even if the Starchild isn't a hybrid, well, um, at least it was probably very ugly.
And, that has to be worth something, doesn't it?

reply to post by UruFist


yeah its hard to say at the moment. I was just posting the news.

Originally posted by Havick007
reply to post by UruFist

 

yeah its hard to say at the moment. I was just posting the news.

Oh, I know. I didn't mean to direct anything to you.

I'm just saying that the people that are keeping this going, getting test after test done, and trying to keep the subject in the spotlight, may just have to throw in the towel eventually.

If you try, long and hard enough, you can probably prove anything, even if it is false.

[edit on 26-4-2010 by UruFist]