All Roads Lead to Rome

reply to post by SLAYER69


Which is all part of the plan as put forward by Rome in the Bible, in the end the people will turn on it and Israel, to set the stage for an appocalyptical war and a one world government.

So is Rome manipulating it's own downfall to that very end.

What is not dying is Christianity which is the Roman system operating, under the illusion of independence from Rome in how they use what is a Roman Doctrine, Christianity itself.

It requires the ability to think it through on a different level than the surface obvious to understand what is at the heart of the conspiracy.

Billions of people are following Roman Religious doctrine under a independent guise but it's still the same basic premise.

Rome is simply getting the masses to do what it has always gotten the masses to do, and that is divest Rome's principles of an assett that will be a liability in the future, by making them believe they are doing it of their own volition and not Rome's.

It's an incredibly ingenious plan, that if you don't think in those kind of strategic ways, you would never see or get in a thousand years.

That makes it an incredibly effective plan as well. People can't see it for what it is, because they have been taught to see it in a way based on their own slightly different interpratations of a basic premise and gospel.

It really is not a religious thread, Rome is a business, not a religion, it controls most of the world's corporations and banks and nations.

It is the wealthiest entity on earth, it is the largest property owner on earth, and one of the few owners of property that can not be taxed or repossesed.

If you haven't read the thread to understand the Pope's unique history just not now, but through out the ages, in influencing political events, treaties, and governing bodies, and you are approaching this like some are, oh it's just another attack on Christianity you are really missing the boat on this.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by masqua
It was a power struggle and still is today. If you don't think this true, just watch the pope this week during his tour and listen to what he's saying that has political ramifications.

The Catholic Church is dying IMO.

Maybe it's all part of their secret agenda, maybe Rome will sacrifice the catholic church to create another religion, a one world religion this time, isn't what Rome wanted since the beginning anyway, to control world population with a religion, if ProtoplasmicTraveler is right, the catholic church is only a legion of Rome and Rome never hesitated to sacrificed a roman legion for the profit of the roman empire !

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I disagree about South America and Asia. I haven't looked too closely at Africa.
If anything there are two others on the Rise, Neither of the two are following the Catholic Churches influences.

Islam and Christian Evangelism

reply to post by masqua


Star and Flag for your thread.... And I dont think it was Paul/Peter, I think it grew to big and became corrupt.

Originally posted by Isaacland

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by masqua
It was a power struggle and still is today. If you don't think this true, just watch the pope this week during his tour and listen to what he's saying that has political ramifications.

The Catholic Church is dying IMO.

Maybe it's all part of their secret agenda, maybe Rome will sacrifice the catholic church to create another religion, a one world religion this time, isn't what Rome wanted since the beginning anyway, to control world population with a religion, if ProtoplasmicTraveler is right, the catholic church is only a legion of Rome and Rome never hesitated to sacrificed a roman legion for the profit of the roman empire !

This is very true, and I sure do appreciate those who have read the thread, that at least understand what I am putting forward in it, whether they agree or disagree.

We know this is in fact part of the plan, because it's outlined in the Bible, Rome and Israel will be sacrificed in the end as the people turn on them.

So we almost have to ask, have Priests deliberately been diddling little boys to that end?

Has the church deliberately gotten sloppy and flaunted it's excesses to turn people against it?

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hmmm I could have sworn I read that somewhere else.....Sounds familar, Oh thats right Jesus/Bible/Peter/Paul said that....

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
What is not dying is Christianity which is the Roman system operating, under the illusion of independence from Rome in how they use what is a Roman Doctrine, Christianity itself.

Yet if Christianity is solely the realm of the Catholic church then where exactly do the gnostic fit in? They were a Christian sect that didn't fit with the Catholics point of view.

They were also Christians.

Seems like a Straw man Argument variation to me.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

I disagree about South America

Really?

Then you should check out this clickable map. Each S. American country is a link to a page showing the percentage of Catholics to population. Most are above 80%.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by masqua

 

I disagree about South America and Asia. I haven't looked too closely at Africa.
If anything there are two others on the Rise, Neither of the two are following the Catholic Churches influences.

Islam and Christian Evangelism

Have you looked at the influences though of the Jesuits, Knights of Malta, Knights of Columbus, and Masons in these places?

Rome is legion, which is why the thread really is not about religion, but all the ways Rome uses to dominate through banking, law, trade, war, etc. etc.

Links to the influence of the above in these places have in fact been posted in the thread.

Which is why people should read the thread.

There is a reason I don't come debate in the Stargate Thread, and your Atlantis Thread, I haven't read the things, and as such debating them is pointless unless I just want to brain fart and ask silly questions that were answered a dozen times before likely in the thread.

Read the thread Slayer. There are a lot of great resources in it, posted by lots of members.

ah yes, and it also tosses out the history of
the masonic order and rewrites it.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Have you looked at the influences though of the Jesuits, Knights of Malta, Knights of Columbus, and Masons in these places?

Yes.

Read the thread Slayer.

I have thank you.

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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
What is not dying is Christianity which is the Roman system operating, under the illusion of independence from Rome in how they use what is a Roman Doctrine, Christianity itself.

You cannot compare all christian sects to Catholicism.

Personally I blame the Amish.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
What is not dying is Christianity which is the Roman system operating, under the illusion of independence from Rome in how they use what is a Roman Doctrine, Christianity itself.

Yet if Christianity is solely the realm of the Catholic church then where exactly do the gnostic fit in? They were a Christian sect that didn't fit with the Catholics point of view.

They were also Christians.

Seems like a Straw man Argument variation to me.

edit on 17-9-2010 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)

First of Sassinind Persian Gnosticism was along with many other religions woven into Christianity which you would know more about if you read the thread, which is not a straw man argument but a theory, based on a whole lot of history, and a whole lot of discussion about that history by a whole lot of people, who provided a whole lot of resources and links.

In fact Sassinind Persian Gnosticism brought into the mix by Saint Augustine a pagan and then a Gnostic before writing his monumental influencing work, the City of God plays such an important part in the plan, it likely ties into the controversy between Iran whose President is a Mason, an Army of Rome, and the West today, as part of the execution of that plan.

This is a conspiracy, Slayer, not a vacation bible school class.

Get with the program.

Originally posted by masqua

Really?

I was referring to the % of growth.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Have you looked at the influences though of the Jesuits, Knights of Malta, Knights of Columbus, and Masons in these places?

Yes.

Read the thread Slayer.

I have thank you.

Which are in fact a non-answer on one account, as you have not mentioned how they do or do not factor in, in your opinion, and a bold faced distortion on the other answer since you aren't able to speak to these details that are in fact in the thread!

Rome is rapidly developing Africa, and has long controlled South America.

It is rapidly developing China too.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
You cannot compare all christian sects to Catholicism.

Absolutely not... Protestants are opposed to Catholics, but you cannot deny that they sprang from the Holy Roman Church. There are direct links that all lead back to Rome and Pauline Christianity..

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
First of Sassinind Persian Gnosticism was along with many other religions woven into Christianity which you would know more about if you read the thread

Again I have read the thread.

I am basing my opinions on my own research not on your opinions or perceptions.

Thanks

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now if that map were being presented by proto instead, he'd be using it as a means to show that the RCC (roman catholic church) is promoting itself with propaganda and that the numbers are likely falsfied to present the illusion of collusion. then later, show a different map where the high numbers of catholics or christians in general, prove that the RCC owns the world. he doesn't believe ANY catholic data is legit, but uses it to prove his points as if they were credible sources (when convenient) and if you point this out, he gets angry and tries to say you are in denial.

Originally posted by masqua
Absolutely not... Protestants are opposed to Catholics, but you cannot deny that they sprang from the Holy Roman Church. There are direct links that all lead back to Rome and Pauline Christianity..

Protestant and Catholics?
That's like saying Sunni and Shiites are the same!
False argument. IMHO

Personally I believe if you are going to use Christianity via the Catholic church or Rome as the scapegoat for all time, then you are supporting biblical prophecy.

There is no way around it.