All Roads Lead to Rome

Thank your for bringing this up Orangetom, Admiralty Law is a concept that we all must truly understand in order to combat these parasites on society. and thank you Proto for creating the structure for dissemination of this information.

I wanted to elaborate on the maritime law concept and how it is SO deceptively controlling, as well as, give each reader a test that they can perform (if they possess the cajones), or one other simple test that does not require putting yourself in the line of fire, so to speak.

This will prove, without a doubt, the validity of this concept.

!) First test. According to the constitution, we are allowed three types of courts in the US: common law (where an actual offense is against a person and a victim is needed), civil law (where once again a dispute must be challenged between two parties), and also, unfortunately maritime or admiralty law (this is essentially Roman Public International Law) It decides the jurisdiction one is charged under, and the way this is done is by the flag of the court. The flag gives visual representation of this jurisdiction.

If you are arrested for a code or a statute violation, which is unconstitutional to do to a live person BTW.., then request a COURT REPORTER, and when you get one, then kindly ask the judge "in what type of court is my trust being charged?"

They will either drop the case immediately, if it IS ON THE COURTS RECORD, or you go to guantanamo.

This is the easier proof.. but it is not quite as poignant

2) Go to every court in the state, along with all state and local buildings and you will see gold fringe to tell you the jurisdiction of the incorporate town.

This is all the product of Roman Law. Law that was designed to keep a large empire under control.

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Proto has stated numerous times throughout these pages that this thread is NOT about religion. For that reason and on this basis, I shall leave you to your delusions. You are welcome to start another thread if you wish to continue on with this subject matter.

Indeed it's not! Even though at times I think you yourself may have wished otherwise.

What we are seeing here, presently is the fact that pretty much no two people can agree upon religion.

Normally that is to say the vast majority of the time people just 'quote' scripture, kind of like Stormdancer and her flyby posts where she will just deposit a whole lengthy passage from the bible with out comment, and depart to the next thread to dump it there too.

Simple people of faith, tend to take these passages on face value, with a simple understanding of them to go along.

Of course this adds nothing particuarly insightful or toppical to the post except for in the mind of the person depositing them here.

Yet when not so simple people but highly intelligent and articulate people of faith start offering their own renderings of what the Bible(s) are actually saying then you get into an area that as Masqua pointed out many times earlier in the thread likely impressed Rome when it came to people like the Isrealites practicing monotheism which was anything but mono in it's interpretation as different sects violently warred against one another for dominance for their interpretations of the scripture, codes and laws.

The disagreements lead to frustration and that frustration often leads to anger and emnity, and that often leads to something Rome truly loves, divide and conquer war!

Orangetom has probably put more thought into what's in the Bible(s) and what they all mean than anyone to ever grace ATS.

There is no telling how right or wrong he is, but I believe one of the things he is 'right' about, is 'capturing' the mindset, politically and spiritually, of the people of those times.

Of the three sects of Abraham, modern day Christians are perhaps the most intriquing as they have discarded a lot of the mindset, and politics that comprise a number of the spiritual notions in the bible, for politically correct thinking on the part of the state.

They no longer adhere to the parts of the Bible that are contrary to things like Women's liberation, equal rights, and openly shun some of it's strict morality that was constructed by the socieites of those days, but codified none the less in the New Testament and Holy Roman Bible.

They still consider themselves devout and proper despite these rejections that are basically saying well God didn't have it right in all regards, while at the same time being rather fearful of Muslims and to a lesser extent Jews that the very orthodox or devout ones are still following these Talmudic laws about morallity.

Orangetom is probably more perceptive in regards to the Talmudic Codes set up in the Cannons than anyone, and as he displays and lists them, I think it does highlight how many Christians have moved significantly away from many of the fundamental tenents of the religion as they have more and more rejected the Talmudic Laws dealing with morality, in favor of modern day societal constructs that work better for Rome (the State) and it's arms (the Corporations) while still keeping them in bondage and fighting over just what the one God wants.

I am hoping that this is something that the more perceptive posters will see as Orangetom interacts with them, in regards to their own 'unique' views of the monotheistic concepts Rome saddled and enslaved the people with, pretty much knowing that the people would never fully agree on them, and that could be skillfully used to Rome's advantage.

The truth is divining this God of "Love" usually ends up leading most people to a not so loving impass that often turns violent.

While no, I don't feel what the Bible 'means' is important to this thread, what the individual interpretations of the Bible lead to, and how Rome manipulates it is.

When you begin to understand what Orangetom is really saying, that the vast majority of people who read the Bible really have very little understanding of what it is actually saying, then you begin to understand that Rome has no particular interest that they do, only that the people remain divided and fighting over it, much like a room full of children would, when they are only provided one toy to share between them.

There is always more than one way to skin a cat!

There have been many conspiracy investigations about the religious side of Rome, The Vatican, the Jesuits, bible prophecies etc and none of them had succeeded as much as this thread did and it's so because religion lead to false perception and erroneous conclusions, based and inflenced on misleading perceptual informations.

I think Proto is right..!, the only way to understand our world system and the complexity of Rome ( TPTB ), is to investigate Rome with atheist's eyes and a logical, Intellectual mind.

Was reading this list on another website about Rome

Given the temporal power the Church wielded (and still does to a certain degree, though more through influence now), one could say that the Roman Empire is still at the heart of Western society.

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