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Originally posted by EyesII
Cloning MAC addresses usually happens after the modem has seen the net traffic and before your PC get the traffic - in other words at the router level.
EDIT: Yes Google is a Tyrant, but the technology it uses is only a fraction of what is available to the government and military
People need not to worry about this, do you know how much money, time, resources and manpower is required to do this? Something like this would only be done in the circumstances of a breach in national security.
Originally posted by LieBuster
I've worked for BT and picked up a bit of gossip and they are 20 years ahead of where you think they are and also note BT seems ripe for being nationalised since the share price is no higher then when they floated the company 20 plus years ago and they own the copper/optics in the street even if Virgin rents the line.
Originally posted by LieBuster
Manpower does not come into it once you have the software and disk storage is dirty cheap plus if read the guidelines for who is a potential terrorists then "national security" takes on a very wide scope.
Would i know you better than your wife if i looked over your sholder everytime you used a PC ?
Good post and i will seek your advise when i get stuck with MAC's again.
Originally posted by the_denv
People are asking how a person can be traced using a MAC address and how Google or a third party would know who exactly owned that MAC address? Well, if you purchased your router, computer or network card/s via credit card, then your credit card that you used to purchase it would be used to trace your name and address etc.
Originally posted by LieBuster
I've worked for BT and picked up a bit of gossip and they are 20 years ahead of where you think they are and also note BT seems ripe for being nationalised since the share price is no higher then when they floated the company 20 plus years ago and they own the copper/optics in the street even if Virgin rents the line.
Originally posted by the_denv
Yeh I heard that myself when I worked for BT, they own all the MDFs (Main Distribution Frame) within all of the telephone exchanges.
How will GOOGLE know what Wifi network pertains to what street address
Originally posted by stumason
Not true. Virgin have their own network, which is what they mean when they say "cabled area". Your right in saying Virgin rents the line if they sign up an ADSL customer from outside a cabled area, but if you live within one, you're on Virgins network.
And I am totally puzzled by your statement of BT being "20 years ahead". Ahead in what? Running a crappy network? Charging too much? Not being able to fix simple faults? Please elaborate what you mean by this.....
Originally posted by LieBuster
Sorry i should had said BT owns 95% plus of all the copper/optics
Originally posted by LieBuster
Yes with you on the crap service and all that but i can not go into more detail on this one for reasons of security.
Originally posted by the_denv
If ATS would like a pentest done on their HTTP server, let me know and I will do one free of charge. I bet there is a HUGE list of exploits on this website as there would be, people just dont see the importance of it.
Originally posted by LieBuster
Customer base maybe but not when it comes to cable going into peoples homes which is the best place to listen in and maybe you could lets us have a link on the size of Virgin and C&W inside the UK.
Originally posted by LieBuster
"BT own the local loop"
You answered your own question
Originally posted by LieBuster
"but Virgin have their own local fibre/copper network in a significant part of the country and are expanding it with new overhead deployment on the Telegraph poles."
Telegraph poles and i was thinking BT was backwards.
Originally posted by LieBuster
I like Virgin and have worked for them in the past but not in connection with phones/internet