Fringe

Yuck! I think this was my least favorite episode of the entire series. It didn't feel like Fringe at all. Part of the episode played out like a cheap copy of Inception and the rest of it just wasn't as creative as Fringe normally is. I'm really glad FOX renewed the show before this episode aired! Next week looks to be moving back to normal Fringe, hurray!!

I am disappointed that Belly isn't sticking around. I didn't expect Leonard Nimoy to show up but I figured he would end up in the computer or another body. I guess it's not that important though. It would have been nice for Bellivia to have said hi to Nina though.

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Ditto... In fact, I made the same comment about "inception" to my husband!

The "animation" was really unattractive too. In this day & age of animation evolution, that was just completely acceptable unless it was intended. And if it was intended, why? It distracted from the pleasure of the storyline which wasn't that great to begin with (as Andy mentioned).

The only thing I found "interesting" about the entire episode was the end and Olivia's revelation about her future killer.

I'm pretty certain that the reason they did the animation was because Leonard Nimoy did not want to come in to film and would only lend his voice. But I don't think it was absolutely necessary, I think that they could have come up with a way to get around him being in it. Just off the top of my head, why not hire an actor to portray a young William Bell and explain that that's how his consciousness perceives him?Another idea is that he doesn't need his own body at all (in Olivia's mind). His consciousness has already accepted that his body is just a shell.

When I saw them all laying there, I was worried that they would all come back in the wrong bodies!

Yuck! I think this was my least favorite episode of the entire series. It didn't feel like Fringe at all. Part of the episode played out like a cheap copy of Inception and the rest of it just wasn't as creative as Fringe normally is. I'm really glad FOX renewed the show before this episode aired! Next week looks to be moving back to normal Fringe, hurray!!

Pretty much my thoughts exactly on this one.

The animation was a neat novelty for a few minutes, but should have ended sooner. Broyles tripping on '___' was the best part of this episode...

Bell still could be latent in Olivia's consciousness, for all we know. At least we don't have to put up with her horrible attempts at his voice anymore, hehe... She had his mannerisms down (even the eyebrow arch, if you caught it), but that voice impersonation...ick.

Looking forward to seeing it back on track.

Great episode this week! Some really great acting too, I thought. I wonder why the machine couldn't be stopped by Peter? Maybe it just can't be stopped once it's already been activated.

Last season's Season Finale had "A DEMON'S TWIST RUSTS" written on Walternate's chalkboard, which is an anagram for "DON'T TRUST SAM WEISS". The glyphs from that episode also spelled out "WEISS". I feel like re-watching that episode could become very important.

Originally posted by MrAndy
Great episode this week! Some really great acting too, I thought. I wonder why the machine couldn't be stopped by Peter? Maybe it just can't be stopped once it's already been activated.

Last season's Season Finale had "A DEMON'S TWIST RUSTS" written on Walternate's chalkboard, which is an anagram for "DON'T TRUST SAM WEISS". The glyphs from that episode also spelled out "WEISS". I feel like re-watching that episode could become very important.

Very very nice catch!!!

I didn't get to see the episode because I've been travelling but my husband told me all about it. Maybe I'll get some time to catch it online....

Whoaaa!! What happened? We're in the future!! Did the red verse explode or did the universes merge? How is Walternate in this one?

I can't believe what happened! I am surprised it wasn't the season finale, we still have one more episode!

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Watched it online today....

Wow! I agree with you. This could have been the cliffhanger to keep you coming back next season! I, too, sat back going "WTF????"

So what do we know? We know he's on the other side. We know that Walternate is still alive so that means that the other side was NOT destroyed completely (even though Walternate claims it...). And I'm willing to bet that our side is still alive too (meaning Olivia and the gang).

Then there's that pesky anagram about Sam Weiss. Why? Why would Walternate have that? Because Sam helped Peter to get into the machine? Hmmm.... Interesting question!! I'm going to hate waiting for the show to start next season.

I was encouraged to see that Fringe actually had a slight jump in ratings when everyone else had a decline!!

Here is the trailer for the season finale. Warning: Spoilers!

I still have to watch the one from Friday to catch up...sounds like it's going to be a real mind-bender...

EDIT: Watched it on lunch break (DVR'ing and FF'ing through the commercials is a wonderful thing)

Wow! Didn't see all that coming. And this isn't even the finale?

Real cliffhanger.

I'm guessing, it probably takes time for the other Universe to be destroyed (assuming that is what happens), and that Walternate (as he's got the means to travel between Universes), escapes before it all goes. (with vengeance, and a plan to destroy our Universe now perhaps).

(I can't see the above vid at my office, so sorry if these ideas contradict anything known or revealed above).

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good guess!! lol...if this was a conspiracy website and all, I might actually accuse you of being one of the Fox writers....


After last week's show, I felt like the season finale was a little bit of a letdown. Not that it didn't contain its fair share of surprises....and I *was* sitting there going "Wha??????" at the end. However, it didn't have the "wow" factor of the previous week's show. Again, just my opinion.

The showdown between Olivias and Walters ought to be interesting....especially if no one remembers peter? How is that going to work? Surely Peter will be in the next Season. It sort of "not Fringe" without him.

I really liked the episode. I was kind of disappointed we didn't see future Brandon or future Lincoln. Emily Meade playing future Ella is supposed to be back next season, maybe that means we haven't seen the end of this future grayverse?

Peter is definitely coming back and the producers confirmed that but didn't say how that will happen. Remember when the observers told Walter that in order to undo what has been done to both universes he will have to be willing to give Peter up? Now with season 4 we will learn about two universes where Peter never existed, that's really interesting.

Thank you, MrAndy! I just got referred to this thread. Just keep in mind that this episode was filmed before this week's events occurred. There were some sickly familiar parallels in our universe this week.

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Thanks for joining the discussion CodeRed here is the link to your thread in case Gazrok or CIA Gypsy wanted to read it: LINK

Fringe is definitely coming back next fall and FOX has renewed the show for a full 22 episode season. The producers had mentioned prior to the renewal news that they were not writing the season finale with the ending of the series in mind. Joshua Jackson (Peter Bishop) is still contracted through season 4 so I hope it's not considered a spoiler for me to say that he'll be back. The producers were quick to confirm that too since I bet a lot of people would be disappointed if he weren't coming back!

good guess!! lol...if this was a conspiracy website and all, I might actually accuse you of being one of the Fox writers

Hehe, I used to get accused of being a LOST writer too, hehe. Just that I've read a lot of books, so you see the basic story elements, and can say, "well, if I was the writer, where would this be going?"...

I still have Friday's DVR'd, so haven't seen it yet. Can't wait to see what panned out....

I'm really surprised more people aren't talking about the striking coincidences in last weeks episode with the events surrounding OBL.

Just take for instance, Agent Broyles with the one blue eye, one brown eye making the statement that he doesn't want to bring out the Dr. because it might disrupt his chances of re-election. This was totally out of context for being head of the agency.

There were several threads that OBL was killed on the same day as Hitler was supposedly assassinated, which was never proven as there wasn't a body recovery. Obama is half black - half white, ie one blue eye, one brown eye. Hitler was half Jew, ie he also had one blue eye and one brown eye.

That's just the one of the many "coincidences".

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I saw a very convincing doc not too long ago on the whole Hitler suicide in the bunker issue. Wish I could recall the name of it, but the evidence was more than compelling, was pretty much irrefutable that he did indeed do this as claimed.

I have a little bit of Fringe news. The first bit is that Seth Gabel (Lincoln Lee) has signed on to become a full series regular for Season 4, so we'll be seeing much more of him. The other bit of news is an interview with the producers about the Fringe finale and what we can expect in Season 4. There's not really any spoiler in there but possibly a hint or two: (LINK)

here are some spoilers for season 4
www.fringespoilers.com...

Here's Fringe season 3 gag reel:



Season 4 premieres Friday, September 23rd on FOX.