Who took this photo on the moon ?

Originally posted by Temperature Drop
I would also question the shadows cast from the astronaut to the piece of equipment on the floor to his left, look at his stance, that would surely present a greater shadow mass that it does in the photo unless it comes from high intensity lighting.

Compare the astronautics off stance with the piece of equipment on the floor to his left.

Zoom in on pic shadows look ok compare his with the equipment shadow point out why you think its wrong.

I have cobbled up a quick and dirty 3d image or 3....

Anyhoo: Shot with the astronaut mounted cam:



There's 2 astronauts, a plane, and a block for height. black sky and 2 light sources (because it's too much trouble to replicate the angle, reflections and everything else for a simple mock up). So, all that is reflected is the plane, the block, and the astronaut.

Shot 2:



The astronaut is moved the equivalent of 4 feet to the left, leaving the camera where it was for the first shot.

Third:



I moved the camera with the astronaut. It matches the angle in the helmet of the subject of the pic.... but doesn't explain what looks like a suited figure so close to the subject astronaut....

This is a ROUGH idea of who was where when the pic was taken. If anyone has any better ideas as to how exactly this pic was taken.... Feel free to yell.

Originally posted by wmd_2008

Originally posted by Temperature Drop
I would also question the shadows cast from the astronaut to the piece of equipment on the floor to his left, look at his stance, that would surely present a greater shadow mass that it does in the photo unless it comes from high intensity lighting.

Compare the astronautics off stance with the piece of equipment on the floor to his left.

Zoom in on pic shadows look ok compare his with the equipment shadow point out why you think its wrong.

It's a waste of time. People only see what they want to see. It's intellectual blindness. They want there to be something wrong with the photo so bad they will find it even if it's not there.

Obviously, the photo was faked.

The barometric pressure in Bangladesh today rose from 30.09 to over 30.20. That couldn't have happened if an astronaut had ever been on the moon in 1964.

Not only that, but there were questionable readings of the actual surface temperature in the Bering Sea last November, with two ships having been sighted by a reconstructed U-2H and SRX-75A-alpha-charlie- MKGXXsuperY series experimental CIA anti-gravity hexagonal craft in locations that were more than 12 feet from their position reported over the radio!

Further, volcanic ash that had "reportedly" had carbon radio-isotope dating to more than 25,000 years ago, clearly demonstrates that the Sphinx is fully three arc-degrees offset from early American drawing, based on astral-plane meetings with ET!

Clearly, no astronaut could have arrived on the surface of the moon when this kind of evidence is available!!!

I know this because Darth Vader told me while I was on the "real" Starship Enterprise!!!

[edit on 22-4-2010 by Truth1000]

Hi everyone,

I've done an analysis of the image and colour coordinated different elements that appear in the visor and in the photograph itself. From the analysis you'll see that (as some people have already stated) the distortion caused by the curvature in the visor/helmet makes it appear as though the first astronaut is looking in a different direction when in fact he is the one who took the photo straight on toward the direction the photo is taken - toward the cave. Based on the analysis of objects around the scene you can clearly see how the position of the astronaut who took the photos is relative to those objects.

To sum it up, he is facing straight on toward the cave. He took the photo. Case closed.

moon_pic_analysis.jpg (2.0 MB)

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the_chilla

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say WHAT?!? WTH are you talking about? Are you being sarcastic or are you still trying to wake up? I don't get it......

Well... I wasnt too far off....

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hey guys well I was checking out this photo trying to find a reference point to look at if you look at the rock on the ground then go to the visor reflection you can see it it looks miles away but it's very close as you can see I don't think there is anything to see here.

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I appreciate the effort put forth. But cmon use a pic hosting site that doesn't put a gigantic unmovable popup ad over the important part of the picture.

WMF,

Sarcasm.

It is not really directed at the rather good "analysis" that is being attempted on this thread. Actually, this is one of the better threads for this type of evaluation. People are seriously studying the picture and seeking literal interpretation of the available clues.

This is the very point that I am trying to make. There is a huge difference between those who seriously seek knowledge, learning, and understanding of the wide variety of topics brought to this site. When done with veracity, this site can provide a tremendous amount of information from people who have "training and experience" in the fields involved in the topics being discussed.

On the other hand, there are many people who have an agenda, and do not even attempt to actually understand the conversations that seek to find the truth. Instead, they merely want to promote their agendas, regardless of the data/evidence presented. They will turn ANY topic into an opportunity to create poorly-coordinated "points," that many times are totally counter to the knowledge utilized by those who are highly trained in the reality of that scientific knowledge base.

I obviously created ridiculous statements, but it is to emphasize how ridiculous some of the "arguments" are when made by people who do not really understand the scientific knowledge they are discussing.

Remember the guy on "Cheers" who always knew "something" about everything, even though his statements were laughable? That never stopped him from making further statements that did nothing more than demonstrate how little he truly knew about the subject.

Come on folks...Give up on this doubt! Americans did land on the moon and there is no denying it. In fact, there is a mirror they placed on the moon that American scientists fire a laser at to get the distance from here to the moon. If we did not land on the moon, don't you think Russia and all our other enemies would have proven it already. My God, we were in a space race.

Looks like this one has been explained so no need to comment on whether there was a sneaky third astronaut or not, but Id just like to bring this part of the OP up..

Originally posted by ppk55
Also, doesn't the guy in the reflection look like somone pretending to be an astronaut .. when in fact he's just wearing gear that might pass as the real thing if not closely examined. I mean why wear a real spacesuit for a photo when noone will ever have the ability to zoom in.

What?
Unless you're seeing something Im not (which I assume must be some sort of cardboard box/tin foil space suit), and/or you have spectacular eyesight, how on god's green earth could you possibly come to the conclusion that it looks like a pretend astronaut?

THe following is purely for additional comment and NO inferences should be assumed as to whether I believe or do not believe that the US landed on the moon.

Just as a comparison, below I show the reflected visor image after it has been enlarged x10 using professional image enhancement software that does NOT introduce pixellation, distortion, artifacts, etc during the enlargement process ... and compare it to a similar image of an astronaut in full spacegear.

Even with the lesser image quality of the 1st image, in my mind there still seems to be a 'leanness' and the appearance of 'less bulk' in the upper image compared to the lower image.
And unless my eyesight is completely failing me, I'm having a hard time trying to see the bulky life-support pack that should be plainly visible on the upper image.

In the lower image, the life-support pack clearly can be seen inline with the astronauts helmet making the combined hemet/pack look very bulky ... and yet in the upper image the helmet appears to be all there is to see with no sign of the life-support pack in contact with the back of the helmet.

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What is the problem? seems like an innocent Kubrick set to me.... Everything is A OKAY in this one

The reflection is normal, but if your trying to prove the moon landings a hoax there is plenty of evidence for that besides this picture. Maybe go ask Buzz's senile drunken self how they got through the radiation belts, he might slip up again and tell you about Mars! (but good luck because he doesn't give out interviews...)

Lets have a quick show of hands, how many of us have been to the moon? NOBODY? that is odd well I guess you will just have to take NASA's word for it....

By the way rockets aren't the preferred method of space travel, we like to use anti-gravity! (if only Wiley Coyote would sign a confidentiality contract we would give it to him too...www.cartoonspot.net...)

Enjoy your day everyone

Maybe it was Photoshopped?

Even India confirms the landing with their recent satellite moon exploration. www.physorg.com...

Originally posted by ppk55

Then who took this photo of BOTH OF THEM?


[edit on 22-4-2010 by ppk55]

There are only Two men in that picture

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More proof.

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Lastly...Many think that the flag would not move easily with the vacuum of space. Check out this Mythbusters controlled study.

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Originally posted by Bluebelle
Looks like this one has been explained so no need to comment on whether there was a sneaky third astronaut or not, but Id just like to bring this part of the OP up..

Originally posted by ppk55
Also, doesn't the guy in the reflection look like somone pretending to be an astronaut .. when in fact he's just wearing gear that might pass as the real thing if not closely examined. I mean why wear a real spacesuit for a photo when noone will ever have the ability to zoom in.

What?
Unless you're seeing something Im not (which I assume must be some sort of cardboard box/tin foil space suit), and/or you have spectacular eyesight, how on god's green earth could you possibly come to the conclusion that it looks like a pretend astronaut?

good point i also didnt get how that conclusion was drawn.

Also does the fish eye make things seem closer or further away? like the side mirrors in your car.