Who took this photo on the moon ?

reply to post by Thepreye

I firmly believe NASA went to the moon, what happened there and after I'm open to be entertained.

I do too, although i have my doubts surrounding the stated technology used to do so, plus a large amount (although NOT all) of 'iffy' images and obvious tampering leads me to believe the official record had been 'sanitized' for public consumption..as to why, is debatable but it seems reasonable to assume the images subject to tampering (clone tool, airbrush, contrast and colour, smudge, overlap etc) had things in the originals that NASA did not want the world to see.

There is no other logical reason for the sheer amount of evidence available for image tampering.

reply to post by bekod


Gene Cernan's visor is convex, so the image will be distorted, thus it would be difficult to make out what the other astronaut (Jack Schmitt) is wearing.

However, Gene Cernan (the astronaut seen by the rock in the OP's image) also has a camera and took pictures while at that location (The location is called "Station 6" and the photos were taken during EVA 3).

Here is a picture of Jack Schmitt at Station 6 during EVA 3. He has a camera on his chest:
history.nasa.gov...

As stated somewhere else in this thread, the convex shape of the visor is also one of the reasons the astronaut taking the picture (Schmitt) looks not to be directly facing the other astronaut (Cernan)...

...and the other reason is that he was NOT directly facing the other astronaut, Rather, he was facing the rock, which is centered in the frame, while the other astronaut is way on the left hand side of the frame -- so of course he would not be directly facing him.

Originally posted by bekod
reply to post by Saint Exupery

 

yes did read it but show me were his back pack is?

Right at the top of page 3 of this thread you said you read is this post, which clearly shows the shadow of the PLSS backpack.

As for seeing the PLSS itself from the front, if you had actually read this thread, you would have found this post on page 11 and this post on page 13, and this post on page 16, all of which show how difficult-to-see the PLSS can be when viewed from the front at low-resolution.

reply to post by Thepreye


Sorry Thepreye; I didn't see your post until too late. Try your own experiments to find pix of astronauts from the front, and reducing the resolution.

As for the "trousers", it took me a moment to realize what you meant. The legs of their spacesuits got very dirty. Remember that the lunar dust is much darker than the mostly white suits.

Cheers!

reply to post by bokonon2010


Instead of calling me a liar, you could have pointed out that it was Deaf Alien that cropped the photo, not the OP. My mistake. It was the only photo on page 1, so I assumed it was put there by the OP. Everyone has been acting like that cropped picture is the original, forgetting that it's not centered properly. My apologies for implying that the OP had deliberately tried to mislead.

Now, since you were so quick to notice that the OP linked to the original photo, which was clearly not centered on the helmet and then immediately denounced me as a liar: why did you post a photo of a helmet straight on as "proof?" In other words, you knew that it was taken from the wrong angle, but you posted it anyway. WHY?

And another thread that goes absolutely nowhere.

I'm surprised a mod hasn't chimed in by now...there was another thread about this very image oh...about 8 or 9 months ago..and guess what?

This thread, and most of the posts on it are virtually carbon copies.

Same arguments for and against, same peculiarities pointed out and argued over, same result...a whole lot of pages going nowhere.

Ah well...at least we're all consistent.

reply to post by spikey


Actually, this IS the thread that started eight months ago! Why it keeps getting bumped is beyond me.

I have taken the liberty in blowing the little guy up in the visor have at it!







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I have to post on this one ...after looking at the light from the shadow on the astronaut...why isnt the inside of the lil cave lit up a lot more!!!!
Looks like a cgi to me.

anyone out there with some fancy photo software care to debunk this photo?

Originally posted by StumpDrummer
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anyone out there with some fancy photo software care to debunk this photo?

Here is a first q/d scene setup, renders will follow.








[edit on 17-8-2010 by EartOccupant]

this one is really worth it




i got other pics posted earlier btw blew him up to give some diff looks

I Made a quick and dirty 3D setup.

Using the picture as a background, some 3D google warehouse astronauts and tried to recreate the scene.

I merged the Astronaut into the background as close i could get. I made the helmet glass of reflective gold material.

Astronaut 2 i put behind the camera lens.

Rendered the scene as you can see. (Also in the close up)

It appears that the reflection in the photo is correct if replicated like this.



[edit on 17-8-2010 by EartOccupant]

reply to post by EartOccupant


alright so where is all the luggage the main astronaut is carrying on the other astronaut? why no backpack? if he is carrying one why does he a lighter one? why is he wearing a completely different suit?

its rocks forming and illusion of someone there. It's lights and shadows tricking the eye. The picture was taken from the side and therefore you would see the reflection of anyone who would be taking it.

reply to post by EartOccupant


Thanks for both your posts, insightful! it does appear as though the reflection guy's back pack, if it exists doesn't protrude over the astronauts shoulders, I know it's most likely a photography issue, but still intriguing.

the funny thing is you could make a case for a guy wearing a sleeveless shirt and vest black jeans and a pair of survivors!

I can't see a backpack either.

I do know who took the photograph..









[edit on 17-8-2010 by EartOccupant]

reply to post by spikey


Agree on all points.
err line 2

[edit on 17-8-2010 by Thepreye]

anyone notice osama hiding in that moon cave? at first i wanted to type obama cause i kinda forgot osama but then i realised its not obama but osama the only difference is the b/s



[edit on 17-8-2010 by metalholic]

reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
yes and he has his back pack so what is your point? my point is in the reflection there is no back pack. what did he do with it leave on the moon car ? oh hay that would explain the photo the moon car took it.