Blind guy who can see!!!

reply to post by Xcalibur254


at the beginning it says he was born with a genetic mutation which caused him to be born without eyes

reply to post by BeastMaster2012


Yeah but you already have an image of it in your mind, this guy not, and he even knows to use color and lighting, you try that to paint with color blindfolded.



[edit on 20-4-2010 by Grey Magic]

reply to post by BroketheWall


Oh no, my comment was directed to the poster before you. Sure the guy is not the best painter in the world, but he is better than many people who can see. Bizarre that people feel the need to bash everything.

Great thread

Originally posted by Grey Magic
reply to post by BeastMaster2012

 

Yeah but you already have an image of it in your mind, this guy not, and he even knows to use color and lighting, you try that to paint with color blindfolded.



[edit on 20-4-2010 by Grey Magic]

I understand that i already have an image, but just look at how the guy does it. They show him feeling a square and then drawing it. They show him feeling the model of the building and he drew it. If he can easily draw a square, he can easily draw a building in perspective.

I can easily "imagine" being blind all my life and deciding to give drawing a shot. He was probably curious as to the idea of drawing and wanted to experiment. Who knows, maybe he was taught or helped to learn how to draw. All it takes is practice and someone else to tell you how accurate your drawing is.

When you can't see, you depend on your other senses obviously, and he is using his hands to "see" objects. I don't know why perspective is a hard concept for a blind person to do.

Hope this helps:

Blind man's friend (BMF): Here is a square. It is a box with 6 sides to it, all equal length. Let me hand you this square so you can feel it. Can you feel the flat surfaces? Can you feel the corners? There are 8 corners to this square. Also there 12 sides where the surfaces meet.

Blind Man (BM): Ahh yes, i can feel the flat surfaces, sides and corners.

BMF: Great. Now as you feel one of the surfaces, can you draw that square surface? Just draw one side of the surface. What you will do is draw a line going up a certain amount of length, go to the right the same amount of length, go down the same amount of length and then go left the same amount. If you draw this you will complete a simple square.

BM: Great i can do that. *DRAWS* ok done!

BMF: Great job! You did a great job, but the square is not complete. Your lines were not equal length, but that is okay. Try it again.

BM: Okay no problem, that was easy! *DRAWS*

BMF: Getting better! Your down stroke is a little shorter.

BM: *DRAWS* *DRAWS* *DRAWS*

BMF: Ok THERE YOU DID IT! You amazingly just drew an almost perfect square, and your blind!

BM: YEHAW!

BMF: Ok now i take the square again in your hands. I am holding the square too along with you. Right now, one of the sides of the box is facing you. You can only see one surface of the box. Do you understand this? There are 5 other sides that you can not see, but if you rotated the box a little to the left you would see another side appearing.

BM: Yes i can visualize this flat surface. When one side is facing me it is completely flat "looking" but if you turn the box to the left you can see a side and another surface start to "appear" on the right side of the box.

BMF: Great you are getting it! Now do you think you can draw what the square would look like with it slightly turned to the left?

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OK i hope you get my point. Perspective could easily be learned by a blind person. If you want me to continue this "lesson" and go into more of the perspective lesson i could, but i am not going to write out all this if no one cares.

reply to post by Grey Magic


thats what im saying forget about the building...the guy can paint landscapes with precision that he has never even seen and gets the colors in place along with the texture and the waves of the water.

reply to post by BeastMaster2012


alright you try to draw the building he drew then and post it!
since you can even see the shape of the building you should be able to do it .
your forgetting its alot harder to draw the shape of a 3d object onto a 2d object even if you can see..
this guy has never seen what a single 3d object looks like but yet he can draw multiple 3d objects as if he was staring right at them. like as in miles of landscape...
ANd if this guy doesnt interest you one bit watch the other video i posted on page 1 about ben underwood who can echolocate like a bat to see where he is going...
you are sadly taken your sight for granted...esref would be glad to trade places with you i bet with your eyes and his blindness and still have his artistic abilities...he would probably be filthy rich...this guy should be commended not lowered to just some guy without an extraordinary talent!

reply to post by InvisibleAlbatross


yeah i was sorta was directing that at him and not you my bad...but yeah people need to give credit where it is due and stop trying to say hes just as normal as any other person....they need to try to put there selves in his shoes and recognize he is a novelty.

Inspiring. Uplifting. Touching. And most of all...very intriguing. Will we ever know everything there is to know?

Sometimes our eyes deceive us. I think this is why many people lose their "real" inner perception. Sometimes what we see visually and what we are told to believe about what we see, is conflicting information.

Anyway, this film seems to show that our abilities are able to go beyond the physical limitations of body. It is an enigma indeed.

reply to post by Alethea


yes in a way he blessed because he cant see this cruel world but yet he can capture the beauty at the same time!

Originally posted by BroketheWall
reply to post by BeastMaster2012

 

alright you try to draw the building he drew then and post it!
since you can even see the shape of the building you should be able to do it .
your forgetting its alot harder to draw the shape of a 3d object onto a 2d object even if you can see..
this guy has never seen what a single 3d object looks like but yet he can draw multiple 3d objects as if he was staring right at them. like as in miles of landscape...
ANd if this guy doesnt interest you one bit watch the other video i posted on page 1 about ben underwood who can echolocate like a bat to see where he is going...
you are sadly taken your sight for granted...esref would be glad to trade places with you i bet with your eyes and his blindness and still have his artistic abilities...he would probably be filthy rich...this guy should be commended not lowered to just some guy without an extraordinary talent!

dude i'm not trying to debunk him or lower his abilities, as i mentioned before i think it's amazing that he can paint colors and it's more amazing that he is painting with light. Perspective is not a big deal to me because perspective drawing is incredibly simple to do once you learn how to do it.

This guy isn't a moron, he is incredibly smart. He can visualize better than 99% of humans, i am sure of that.

I grew up painting and drawing, if i posted one of my paintings i did when i was in 2nd grade you would be amazed. My mother paid for endless private art lessons. I am an artists and i focus my time on web design and photography.

Perspective drawing was invented exactly where the blind painter was sitting, that is why they made him draw that building.

All i am saying is if a blind person has the will to learn to paint and draw, perspective drawing would be the easiest thing to learn. Since he already knows what an object looks like in his mind, he can easily draw it since he has spent thousands of hours practicing.

The little "lesson" i gave above was part one of hundreds of lessons. If you look at Blind dude's drawing of the 3d building he got the basic shape right, but it wasn't proportionate at all, but that is fine, he basically drew it. And how did he draw it? Because he felt the building and felt the small model. All he had to do was feel the small model and know exactly what the shape looks like.

You are underestimating your own mind. Hold a book in your hand and i am sure you can tell how long and wide it is. I am a great visualizer so i can close my eyes and pick up any object on my desk and know what it is, most people should be able to do that.

Infact, i looked back at his sketch and he got it wrong. If you look at 7:38 of the video you can see how many sides he should have "seen" by sitting in front of it. One side directly facing him and two sides going away from him. In his drawing, he added an additional side to each side. He should have drawn only 3 sides, he drew 5.

So he was a bit off, and i don't blame him because he didn't sit there and practice it. He did it in one shot with no one telling him he was doing it wrong. I guarantee you if they tell him he added too many sides that he would redraw it and it would look much better.

If you really want me to draw things without looking i can do that for you. I am not trying to argue with you by any means by the way, i am just giving you my "perspective" as an artist.

alright...what im saying perspective drawing is way different from a person who can actually see and a man who has never seen...since you are a artist, you should know 90% of people with sight couldnt draw what he did..all people with sight should be able to visualize an object they've already seen but he is visualizing not only buildings but whole landscapes and that goes beyond holding one object in your hand...forget the building its amazing he even got the lines right because most people couldnt even do that. the landscapes is what im most impressed with though because he gets proportions, colors, textures, and perspective of the 3d world onto a 2d paper.

i agree, i was blown away by the landscapes and mainly the ocean scene. I can understand visualizing simple objects like buildings but doing waves and painting the breaks in the waves is amazing. The animals are amazing too. The animals i can understand because he probably has felt a few dead or living animals to learn how they "look" but the waves are crazy.

reply to post by BeastMaster2012


only the creator knows how he can do that..im just in awethis guy will be studied for generations until we fully understand the capacity of his ability...maybe he will help breakthrough some science and technology to help other deaf and blind people out.
he will be remembered for many reasons not only his art...also ben underwood will help out to he can echo locate and see things like a bat does! sadly he passed away cause of the cancer that caused his blindness...r.i.p. Ben

I've seen this guy before on a documentary, absolutely amazing! He even has a sense of depth perception that doctors cannot explain.

reply to post by discl0sur3


yeah it was a documentary called super humans...