something strange I've noticed with most music

whenever the singer sings, there is always a slight reverb in their voice. as an example:


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brittney spears (specficially during the chorus)


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Beyoncé (once again during the chorus)


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Lady Gaga (throughout the entire song, but most edvident during the chorus)

suffice to say I beleve this makes the music hypnotic or at least ensures it is drilled into your brain so in order to get it out of your head you either A: turn on the Radio and wait for the song to appear (while listening to commericals) or B: buy the damn album. of course, hypnotism does not work if you are aware of being hypnotized.

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Voice modulation.

This crap gets on my nerves. My opinion is that it is more to cover up the inability to carry a tune more than hypnosis.

It is just the Autotune all these artists use to make up for their lack of talent

This is just another shining example of why death metal is the superior form of music.

Cher started that whole trend with "Live after Love" (i believe thats the title.. where it is almost a robotic sound. Lots of artists jumped on the bandwagon.. And yes it does help conceal the fact the artist has no chops.

All music now has effects on it, usually on every instrument followed by massive compession on the final mix.

Auto-tuning the voice keeps costs lower by eliminatng the need for the vocalist to hit the note just right in the studio.

Reverb is almost always present on drum tracks.

A variety of effects are commonly used on guitar and keyboard tracks

Bass may or may not include effects .

All the instruments are equalized and subject to the qualities of the microphones.

The final mix is compressed to hell and back for that loud, in-your-face sound.

There's no natural environment that would make music sound as it does in a modern recording.

come on I know you've seen this-

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That Auto-Tune device sounds really cool!!
It reminds me of Symphony of Science.
Same effect ?

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To the guy who posted the Cannibal Corpse video. love any form of metal music, but when i hear vocals like that it grates on me.


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Bruce Dickinson, one of the greatest Metal singers of all time and definitely needs no "Auto-Tune".



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Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away, a long, long time ago, music was performed by orchestras consisting of sometimes hundreds of instruments, and choruses and choirs, consisting sometimes of dozens upon dozens of singers.

It really filled up the sound.

In the late 1800’s an important invention was made that would radically change all this.

The Car, that’s right the car, because soon after the car was invented, the garage was invented.

Soon after the garage was invented the Garage Band was invented.

This was by and large to give people who had a garage, but no car, something to do with their garage.

So they would hang out and play music in it.

Yet there was a problem, very few people could fit in the garage!

With out hundreds of instruments and dozens of singers taking part, well, it sounded a little thin.

Enter technology! Reverb which creates a slight echo is in fact just a way to get a multi vocalist, multi instrumentalist sound, by playing back what the singer, or instrument player just sang or played a split second later.

This would end up having a tremendous impact on the economy, as musicians, and vocalists being replaced by machines in garages two small for them to squeeze into, would hence forth ever be known as starving musicians.

This concept, of using machines to enhance performance, would soon lead to the atomization of assembly lines in many other industries, creating a domino effect that all start with the use of reverb!

Today that domino effect has left millions unemployed and all but destroyed the economy!

Reverb, a bad thing or a good thing? You make the call!

x2 warpcrafter hahaha

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In my opinion that's just as bad as autotune.

You can't even tell what they are singing.

I like Metal, but when you can't hear the vocals and just sounds like some incredibly gruff angry person, it's just impossible for me to listen to.

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the reverb is to add a resonance to create a surround sound effect

helps with the distinctive quality of the voice.

the worst case of this is soulja boy, where he uses it to create distinction

The OP has a very good point. It's designed to be readily remembered, a stake within your memory as permanent as possible.

Mental triggers... the industry relies upon exploitation of the inner workings of the human mind.

Predominance of rhythm in music follows the decline of society as a whole.

Give me Mozart.

Originally posted by warpcrafter
This is just another shining example of why death metal is the superior form of music.

I'm sorry....Death metal is awful.

Can't they sing instead of yell?

is that any worse than auto-tune ?

ALWAYS playing loud..= no variety = less replay value......at least in my opinion.


I used to really be into Metallicas first 2 cds Master of Puppets & And Justice for All..


But they were REALLY good back then....


GNR was metal....but they had talent.....they didn't rely on sin...oops i mean yelling into the mic and or growling . = no talent......

No on the aspect of them being really good musicians , yes there are a lot of good musicians in the genre of death metal, I just don't feel that genre has any creativity whatsoever.


If you are limiting yourself to just a guitar, bass, drums, and vocals, then you are limiting your creative possibilities.

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Lady Gaga, Spears, and Beyonce do not make music. Just money making noise devoid of creativity.

As a reply to everyone, I have the following three things to say.

#1: Yes, I do appreciate the vocal talents of people like Bruce Dickinson and Rob Halford, but something about the gruff death metal style resonates with my primitive side.

#2: Autotune is an abomination. Period.

#3: If you want to hear what a really talented pop vocalist sounds like, listen to Christina Aguilera or Joss Stone. They're the real deal.

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This is the way i thought the thread was going when i clicked it actually.. and i didnt play any of the videos on the OP because thankfully warnings had been put on them to tell me who they were of, thus being able to save some brain cells. But knowing of the ancient influence of drum and rythym used to induce trance like and hypnotic states in the listeners and participants throughout ancient times on up to today, ..i believe strongly that its being used and used in such ways as popular music today, helping with social engineering.. much in a person can be influenced, the mind takes in soo much.. more than we have an inkling of, and while in such a state (trance like) a person is far more open to suggestion..

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you will notice this with anythingg t-pain sings
i freakin hate it, i mean i like to hear some sort of wierd daemonic sound in my metal but not the crap that these hip hopsters and bubble gum poppers do

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the point of death metal is not necassarily talent its to make your blood run hot, to get excited and feel bad ass, the heavy bass the beating the # out of those drums the machine gun guitars the death rattle and guttural vocals make me want ato get up and thrash around death metal is more about power not so much music

hi all.

years ago, I was surprised when I heard a record of some famous top ten song, the track seemed to "drawl" and be slow!

*then* I later read that most radio stations accelerate all their played music by about ten percent!!
They get more ads in that way!
[so I read, once]

Music today is a Manipulated thing, just like photos, news, and thus the Matrix of our lives go on.....

[like that study of the kids who like Tang over real orange juice because that is what they grew up with!

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