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Originally posted by tylermbell
reply to post by 23refugee
it wasn't written for modern times, they were saying that you have the right to have loyalty to you family name, you can bear the coat of arms.
guns were a given back then, you needed them for survival.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Originally posted by 23refugee
Show me, in context, where I advocated the overthrow of my government.
Originally posted by Lilitu
Originally posted by 23refugee
Show me, in context, where I advocated the overthrow of my government.
I never said you advocated overthrow of the government. I am talking about terroristic threats, the threat of the use of force as an intimidation tactic to influence government policy. You said and I quote yet again; "There purpose of an armed populace is to prevent tyrrany by the government ....This simple mechanism is what ensures that your vote counts." Couple that with your inflammatory accusations of government oppression by disarming citizens; "The first oppression that should be stopped is the disarming of the citizenry. This is a straw that will break the camels back." and your implication couldn't be more clear. An accusation I might add which you obviously cannot corroborate.
Now to be fair, I am sure that the federal investigators monitoring the chatter on this site are more than competent enough to tell the difference beween a harmless angry person speaking out of ignorance and a dangerous "person of interest" who may violently act out their delusions. But then there is the lone wolf factor.
Originally posted by Aggie Man
How is your right to bear arm infringed? So far as I know, you can open carry in every state w/o a permit. The constitution says nothing about the right to concealed arms.
If one is carrying a gun for protection, fine, but show it. A revealed firearm is a deterrent, a concealed one is not.
And some places, it just takes common sense to understand the banning of possession. Schools, bars (or any place serving alcohol), court houses, etc...
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
Forgive my ignorance on this question, but it's quite odd to me as a Brit why Americans seem to want to carry guns everywhere? What purpose does being constantly able to kill your fellow citizens serve?
What purpose does being constantly able to kill your fellow citizens?
Permissive Open Carry States which means the states have passed full preemption regarding all firearm laws. These states permit open carry to all law-abiding citizens without a criminal record without any special permit or firearms license. The open carry is legal for a citizen on foot or in a motor vehicle. The states that allow this are Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Arizona, New Mexico, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia, Virginia, Alaska and Kentucky.
Licensed Open Carry States allows open carry to all law-abiding citizens once they apply and are approved for a permit or firearms license. They can also carry on foot or in their motor vehicle. The states that require a permit or license for open carry are Utah, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Indiana, Tennessee, Georgia, Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Hawaii and Massachusetts.
Anomalous Open Carry States open carry in these states are generally lawful, but the state itself may have other stiff restrictions to deter citizens from carry a firearm open. The laws in these states are very grey and could cause you a lot of problems if you go toting a gun around openly. The states that have a lot of grey area on open carry are Washington, Oregon, Nevada, California, Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, Louisiana , Mississippi, Alabama, North Carolina, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maine, Delaware and New Hampshire. You shouldn't carry open firearms in these states just to avoid a charge of bringing terror to the people which only requires a citizen to see you carry open firearms and saying they are in fear. You will get charged.
Non-Permissive Open Carry States which means these states don't allow open carry of firearms or is only lawful under very limited situations such as hunting, traveling to and from a hunting site or in self defense. The laws are very grey in these states and you risk being arrested if you carry a firearm in the open. These states consist of Texas, Oklahoma, Washington D.C., Arkansas, Illinois, South Carolina, New York and Florida.
790.06(12) - No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05; any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom; any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building; any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any area vocational-technical center; any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile; inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s 775.082 or s. 775.083.