Another seriously undeniable flaw in the 'official' 9/11 story.

I ran upon this website and these theories/facts within this link below. Its some interesting stuff.

www.salem-news.com...

Thoughts?



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Great link, great story, wonderfully written. Thank you for the link. Like I've said before, its amazing how so many who consider themselves logical, throw logic out of the window when it comes to 9/11. S&F, I hope this thread gets flagged like hell so it can be read by as many as possible.

[edit on 19-4-2010 by Enigami]

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However the NTSB has confirmed that—apparently for the first time from its inception, in 1967, since when it has investigated more than 124,000 other aviation accidents—it took no part in investigating any of the air crashes which occurred on September 11, 2001.

Please note that 9/11 was not an accident. The NTSB studies ACCIDENTS to determine cause and suggest corrective action to governing agencies.

reply to post by -Blackout-


Actually there is a degree of untruth here. Several of the planes were positively identified by serial numbers on the parts.

Here are some of the NTSB's findings.
911research.wtc7.net...

Originally posted by hooper

Please note that 9/11 was not an accident. The NTSB studies ACCIDENTS to determine cause and suggest corrective action to governing agencies.

Maybe it was an accident, Maybe the so called 'terrorists' just wanted to show the people on the plane how good the flying skills they were tought by the CIA are!

Originally posted by DrJay1975
reply to post by -Blackout-

 

Actually there is a degree of untruth here. Several of the planes were positively identified by serial numbers on the parts.

Which planes and which parts?. Without detailed sourcing, this is just unsubstantiated and possibly intentionally misleading garbage.

Whether accident or not, the NTSB people are the experts at such investigations and that expertise should have been utilized in the investigation. Oh.. I forgot, there was not a REAL investigation, just a cover up.

reply to post by expat2368

....the NTSB people are the experts at such investigations....

What are "such" investigations? Hijackings? No, the NTSB are not experts at hijackings. That's the FBI. The NTSB is the National Transportation SAFETY board. They don't investigate criminal activity.

There is a plethora of data that identified the planes and their respective Flights. Radar tracking, voice recordings, ATC identification, etc. and the simple fact that of all the planes that took off on the morning of 9/11/2001 only four never landed. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put it all together. The idea of then making a big deal of finding part numbers to further identify the four planes is over the top. But who knows, maybe it was done in some way or another for completely unrelated reasons, however, there is no popular crying out for even further proof that the four planes that never landed happen to be the four planes that crashed in New York, Washington and Shanksville, Pa on September 11, 2001.

That is exceptionally interesting and hardly surprising. The governement has tried to keep a tight lid on all things 9/11 related.
Im guessing for fear the American people realise that it was a coordinted
attack to gain support for a failing president and to help achieve not 1 but 2 wars, and it worked splendidly.
Essentially boosting a lame duck president to hero, guaranteeing him a second term, and giving him the ability to rape and pillage our rights and freedoms (Patriot Act anyone?) our childrens education (No Child Left Behind) and helping his buddies get rich at the expense of the American tax payer (worst depression in 50 years anyone?)

Good post. Of course they didn't do a REAL investigation. They hauled that debris out of there pronto and made sure that no independent scientist could have access to anything for testing. How can you take ANYTHING the 911 Commission did seriously when they didn't even report that Building 7 fell that day! They just ignored what would have been the tallest building in most cities falling down without being struck by an airplane!

And Bush at first only wanted to spend $3 million to investigate the biggest terrorism event in our history! Only after much begging did they let them spend a paltry $15 million! The cost of the Lewinsky investigation was $30 million! The cost of the Columbia space shuttle disaster was $175 million! And of course Bush spent $40 million on his party when he got elected the second time! lol It's all a big joke!

Cheney and Bush wouldn't even allow any of their testimony to the commission to be recorded or even have notes taken! oh and of course, they had to meet the commission hand in hand - together! Cheney didn't trust Bush in that room by himself! If you were President and had nothing to hide, you would have allowed all cameras and all recording devices to roll during your testimony. You don't care about that stuff if you have nothing to hide. Somebody was hiding a LOT that is for sure.

The best evidence for what happened on 911 is from Dimitri Khalezov. It's the only thing I have every heard that fits all the evidence.

www.project.nsearch.com...

Go read all this information and be amazed that the original plan for the twin towers was to take them down by buried 150 kT nuclear demolition charges! If you look at ALL his evidence and watch the videos you will conclude that so far this is the ONLY theory that makes the most sense. It explains the melted cars 7 blocks away from ground zero. Some of these cars had their engine blocks melted completely even though there was no fire anywhere near them. EMP from an underground nuclear demolition can do this. It also explains the badges they made everybody wear at "ground zero" and the strange cancers that the first responders got Dimitri says the US had no choice but to push the red button because they were told that a nuclear bomb was in the planes or hidden in the towers and that they were trying to save lives by activating the destruct sequence. Dimitri also says a stolen Russian cruise missile hit the pentagon which also makes sense because I always felt that it was a missile because there is no way a passenger jet could hit the Pentagon so precisely flying just feet above the lawn but a Russian anti ship cruise missile certainly could have done it easily. Dimitri says the Granite missile had a nuclear warhead but it did not go off of course. He also said that all the Granite missiles from the Kursk were stolen before the Russians could salvage it and this was hidden because it would cause panic with over 20 nuclear warheads missing!

Anyway it's an amazing story and one that everybody needs to see. If you can come up with a better theory I'd like to hear it. I want to read his book.
Anybody that says jet fuel can melt steel and that it's normal for a debris pile to still contain molten metal months later is just a liar. Go look at all the evidence and make up your own mind what makes more sense to you.

If you think about it, if this is all true, they sure wouldn't want to tell people that they were forced to detonate 3 nuclear demolition charges in NYC that day because they thought they had no choice. The effects on our country would have been far worse than they already were. The real truth was given out in layers to only the people that needed to know. The end result was that the people in charge got the wars that they wanted. More wars for resources we don't even need since we've had Tesla free energy for decades already and don't really need their oil at all.

IMO there is ONE single, simple over-riding piece of information that proves that 9/11 was carried out, if only in part, by people inside our Government - the fact that this happened on a day when there was an exercise scheduled that used very nearly the same scenario as the actual event. This scheduled simulation was in progress when the actual event occurred - the exercise was not publicly announced beforehand and there is no way that people half a world away would have been privy to the knowledge that there was an exercise scheduled for that day. Coincidence - I think not. Its not a stretch to believe that bin Laden (who at the very least had US intelligence "contacts" from his time in Afghanistan in the 80's - leading his mujahadeen, which President Reagan called "Freedom Fighters") was either made aware of the exercise well in advance, or there were forces within the US Government that were involved in the planning all along. Forget trying to go the long route to prove a conspiracy here - this one simple, logical connection is the best evidence of a conspiracy within our Government to carry out this event.

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What exercise are you referring to please ?

A passport can survive the fiery oblivion that destroyed the WTC. But The black box can't?
You can only be on the fence about the issues surrounding 9/11, there is no absolute proof of anything so far. I still lean towards the truth side. AHH i think im losin my balance...

reply to post by Alfie1


Here is a link that has a wealth of information about the military exercises that were being conducted on the morning of 9/11.


www.historycommons.org.../11=complete_911_timeline_training_exercises

Originally posted by jolly
A passport can survive the fiery oblivion that destroyed the WTC. But The black box can't?
You can only be on the fence about the issues surrounding 9/11, there is no absolute proof of anything so far. I still lean towards the truth side. AHH i think im losin my balance...

I think you are confusing what DID survive and what CAN survive and thirdly what was actually found. For all we know those devices did survive but were just never found.

A passport survived and was found and identified. Other less substantial things survived. That does not mean everything more substantial than a passport should have survived, because not everything was exposed to the same forces, circumstances and environments.

I gave up trying to open peoples eyes to the lies of the official story, the Pentagon tapes etc. Some people seem incapable to comprehend what really happened. Anyone with an IQ above 10 would look at the WTC 7 video with the top of the building creasing and the speed of the collapse and say "That looks exactly like a demolition".
Unfortunately like JFK, Lockerbie etc we will never see justice or a fair investigation.

reply to post by hooper


I know exactly what you mean...
But its the black box!!! its invincible!
seriously though,
cui bono?...

not the people that wish to know the higher truth.

[edit on 19-4-2010 by jolly]

Originally posted by 4nsicphd

Originally posted by DrJay1975
reply to post by -Blackout-

 

Actually there is a degree of untruth here. Several of the planes were positively identified by serial numbers on the parts.

Which planes and which parts?

. Without detailed sourcing, this is just unsubstantiated and possibly intentionally misleading garbage.

Try this "garbage" on for size:

The 1,401 people identified include 45 of those aboard the hijacked planes - 33 from Flight 11, which struck the north tower, and 12 from Flight 175, which hit the south tower.

www.nydailynews.com...

Better than serial numbers, how about body parts from flight passengers? I suppose those body parts were "planted"???

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CAUTION : The link you provided is a good one . However , in the comments section a poster has a link that takes you to 'angels for truth . com' .

While that link appears to contain some superb photos , it has taken me over an hour to get out of it . You get in there and your computer locks up and eventually starts to jump randomly from one site to the next and you have no control whatsoever .

Just a friendly warning .

Originally posted by jolly
A passport can survive the fiery oblivion that destroyed the WTC. But The black box can't?
You can only be on the fence about the issues surrounding 9/11, there is no absolute proof of anything so far. I still lean towards the truth side. AHH i think im losin my balance...

There is nothing unique or miraculous about flimsy documents surviving horrendous air crashes. There are some on display in this video of the Iran crash site last year :-

news.bbc.co.uk...