The Most Important Book Ever Written

Ever since the 4th grade, I have been searching for truth. I have always wanted to know the answers to those pesky questions: What is my purpose? Why am I here? Who am I? Is there a God? etc. etc.

I have always advocated the importance of finding truth, but I myself never practiced it. It was only just a few months ago that I started to really look within myself for the answers. I would stare at the mirror for several minutes every day, pondering and questioning the image before me.

Some time went by and I still had not found inner peace. There were so many unanswered questions and I was more confused than ever before.

About a week ago, I gave in. I could not for the life of me figure IT out. After years of reading, watching videos, intricate conversations with friends, and some meditation, I still had not come to the "eureka" moment of revelation. So I sent out an S.O.S. to the universe.

I closed my eyes and said something along these lines: "Universe, God, my higher self, whoever is in charge of the grand scheme of things, please, help me out. I can not find the answers I am looking for. I need guidance. Maybe you don't have to give me the answers, but if you could lead me to Truth, I would greatly appreciate it."

A couple of days later I stumbled upon something so significant, so profound, I was filled with excitement and joy. At last, I had found something that answered all my questions. I have never before felt like this. I am filled with love. I am filled with peace. My life will never be the same.

The book in question is: www.rael.org...

I ask of you to read this book with an open mind, from beginning to end. Afterwords, you can decide for yourself what to believe.

If you, like me, feel it to be true, spread the message! Star and Flag this thread and reach out to your friends and family. If each one of us tells 2 people of this book, and those 2 people each tell 2 more people, eventually, the whole world will know. Similar to the film "Pay it Forward"

I hope you take the time to read what the author has to say. Perhaps it will cahnge your life too.

Love,
David

Maybe its just me , but that link is only giving me the first 20 pages ?

Something about this post struck me as odd in the beginning, then as I gave it a bit of a chance and skimmed through the index of this "book" I noticed quite a few topics that just screamed "slanted".

The very thought of Intelligent Design to me is simply contradictory to theology and is an attempt to validate what cannot be claimed by facts. I am sorry, but at this point I cannot agree with you that this book is the greatest thing ever, however for the sake of fairness I will give it a chance and edit my post later once I have read some of it.

It is probably very obvious that I am an atheist, however I am also open minded and willing to read/listen to any ideas/thoughts regarding the matter and have an intelligent discussion about it.

The one thing that still bugs me however is that you seem to be very adamant about pushing this book upon people to spread around, agenda maybe? Maybe not?

Since it claims in its own foreword that it is limited edition, how did you manage to come across it?

Either way I will return at a later date and update my initial post here with a review of your "super book" and maybe then I can formulate a more informed opinion on it.

For now my initial stance is that it is complete BS, but we will see.

King

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Just reading through the table of contents makes me wary. Seeing the same old pseudo-religious musings I've seen a hundred times. Book Two: Extra-Terrestrials took me to their planet? And this is your holy grail? Sounds more like something I'd hear on Coast to Coast or read in a tabloid, not that I don't enjoy zany theories just that I don't like to latch onto them as being part of higher wisdom or truth.

The actual book begins with: BOOK ONE The book that tells the Truth. That right there is a dead give away that they are lying. Even the Bible, often touted by believers as being absolute truth, doesn't start with anything as audacious as claiming to be "The Book that tells the Truth" but hey judging from the table of contents the author might be referencing the Bible.

I'll take a look at the rest of the book but my initial feeling isn't a good one. Reminds me of the Terra Papers everyone was so crazy about a while back then I sat down and read them to see what all the fuss was about and laughed until I cried.

Forgive me if I sound mean or skeptical, I've seen a lot of claims made, I've heard a lot of theories claimed as absolute truth but I have yet to find one that lives up to those claims.

Edit to add: I'm eleven pages in, its definitely a neat novel but that's all it is, a fictional account similar to many other supposed alien visitations. Page 11 states that when the aliens found the Earth it was covered with water but at no time in Earth's history was the entire planet covered in water. The alien has his facts wrong

On page 12 the alien claims he and his kind used controlled explosions to create the continents... sorry but my BS detector is going out of control. I'm going to keep reading and keep track of how much blatantly false stuff I can find.

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Ok, I got to the part where he says this:

'No, as a matter of fact, I bought it only a few days ago.'

blah blah blah, I used telepathy to make you buy it.

Everybody I know has thumbed through the pages of the Christian Bible. Those that have it, have not bought it, and you can get them for free from many sources.

I will continue to read this with an open mind, please disregard this, as I have closed my mind for a second.

Originally posted by Kingalbrect79
Something about this post struck me as odd in the beginning, then as I gave it a bit of a chance and skimmed through the index of this "book" I noticed quite a few topics that just screamed "slanted".

The very thought of Intelligent Design to me is simply contradictory to theology and is an attempt to validate what cannot be claimed by facts. I am sorry, but at this point I cannot agree with you that this book is the greatest thing ever, however for the sake of fairness I will give it a chance and edit my post later once I have read some of it.

It is probably very obvious that I am an atheist, however I am also open minded and willing to read/listen to any ideas/thoughts regarding the matter and have an intelligent discussion about it.

The one thing that still bugs me however is that you seem to be very adamant about pushing this book upon people to spread around, agenda maybe? Maybe not?

Since it claims in its own foreword that it is limited edition, how did you manage to come across it?

Either way I will return at a later date and update my initial post here with a review of your "super book" and maybe then I can formulate a more informed opinion on it.

For now my initial stance is that it is complete BS, but we will see.

King

Never judge a book by its title or index. It is very misleading.

In fact, this is as Atheist as it gets, with a twist of course ; )

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I am not a crazy "hate religion and all that believe in it" atheist. I am simply a man that asks questions that any person of religon has failed to answer to this day, however some buhhdists have come close.

I am more logical than emotional, so rather than base a book by its title, I take it for its context; to which unfortunately is very biased in appearance. However like I said I will reserve final opinion until later, but on the surface as Titen-Sxull said "It's a dead give away".

So much so that it claims to be the truth right out of the gate is a negative impression no matter what author is behind it. Just the same as your title is misleading. Your basing your interpretation of the meaning of life and the universe on this book, others use the bible, and even some others use National Geographic. Either way it is interpretation of what is written moreso that what is actually printed.

I can tell you I have taken quite a few college english classes on professional writing, and to put forth a thesis that states it is the "absolute truth", and then drift off into alien abduction as a proofer, doesn't hold water nor attention of the reader past the chapter list.

But like I said, I am a man of my word, and I will review your book and reply with my formal response later. Any other questions I will be happy to answer for you to the best of MY knowledge, not a book, nor ONLY ONE book.

Face it dude, Rael cast his fishing rod of cult tactics and you bought it hook line and sinker.

Classic warfare: tell the audience what they want to hear, make them feel empowered, you do know that he has people worship him, right? And he dresses kinda like a shogun for some reason.

How do you think cults get followers? They have to make them believe they tell the only truth in the world and convince them that they need this.

You felt empty, they filled you. With what though?

Just thought someone should point out that this is a publication by the Raelian Movement.

I have no negative or positive opinion on the Raelians, but thought someone should point this out

The Raelians were the ones who claimed they had cloned the first human being - Link here.

Raelian website

More info for those interested

From the above soure
Followers of Raëlism are believers in the Elohim, an advanced race of extraterrestrials who created life on earth.[3] Raëlians are individualists who believe in sexual self-determination.[4]
As advocates of the universal ethic and world peace, they believe the world would be better if geniuses had an exclusive right to govern.[5] As believers of life in outer space, they hope that human scientists will follow the path of the Elohim by achieving space travel through the cosmos and creating life on other planets.[3]
As believers in the resurrection of Jesus Christ through a scientific cloning process (which includes memory transfer) by the Elohim, they encourage scientific research to extend life through cloning,[6] however critics outside are doubtful of its possibility.[7]

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I took a course with Susan Palmer at my university (she is a very well researched and well known new religious movement, or cults, researcher, en.wikipedia.org...) and we had a Raelian bishop come and talk in our class.

She spoke very highly of the Elohim (the creators) and pretty much at the end of the class after many questions, everyone seemed quite confused. She said that the world was created by the Elohim specifically for us. When asked about dinosaurs she said it was possible that another alien species created them prior. Then when asked about the origins of the Elohim she said they were created by ANOTHER alien race, and their creators were created by another alien race, so on and so forth.

Now here is where things get confusing, supposedly we were created to be BETTER than the Elohim (genetically and emotionally) just like the Elohim were better than their creators, etc. She described it in relation to evolution. So when we asked "who was the first alien race to create?" she stated that we don't know and the cycle has been going on for an infinite amount of time. Which left us scratching our heads.


We also had a high ranking Scientologist come in, a couple from Children of God, and various other NRM's (or cults) and from my personal opinion, the Raelians made absolutely no sense in comparison to any mainstream religion I know of or NRM I know of.

I had a friend once who said something familiar with what you said "Universe, God, my higher self, whoever is in charge of the grand scheme of things, please, help me out. I can not find the answers I am looking for. I need guidance. Maybe you don't have to give me the answers, but if you could lead me to Truth, I would greatly appreciate it." Want to know what happened?......

The next day Mormons showed up at his house.

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That sounds like quite an interesting course!

The thing that i'm sure must have confused you guys, because it has me, is that going by the theory of creating better and better 'beings' in an unbroken chain over a very long time is that:

a) The ORIGINAL creators must have been almost microbial in form as this theory would speak to a kind of 'devolution' (to a degree) as you go backwards in time, hence simplifying the lifeforms as it goes.

and

b) If the process had been going for so long, wouldn't humans be amazingly complex and HIGHLY advanced?


Not saying anyone is necessarily right or wrong, just putting that out there

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I believe Rael is proven de-bunked

Besides the fact that he is the mesiah and leader of a new age cult with signs of sectarian influencial rule.

No matter how right and beautiful his message sounds. Use the wisdoms in the book and in the teachings.

Howevere run away as hard as your legs can possibly move you. and keep a firm grip on your wallet.

Please understand that there is no need to follow the teachings of a religious believe . You don't have to ignore them either. Just don't get lured in.

Good luck.

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Amazingly the bible tells about the anti christ that he has no father and no mother.
Could just as well be interpreted as a clone.

From the website:

THE MESSAGES

The messages dictated to Rael explain that life on Earth is not the result of random evolution, nor the work of a supernatural 'God'. It is a deliberate creation, using DNA, by a scientifically advanced people who made human beings literally "in their image" -- what one can call "scientific creationism." References to these scientists and their work, as well as to their symbol of infinity, can be found in the ancient texts of many cultures. For example, in Genesis, the Biblical account of Creation, the word "Elohim" has been mistranslated as the singular word "God", but it is actually a plural word which means "those who came from the sky", and the singular is "Eloha" (also known as "Allah"). Indigenous cultures all over the world remember these "gods" who came from the sky, including natives of Africa (Dogon, Twa, etc.), America, Asia, Australia, and Europe.

Leaving our humanity to progress by itself, the Elohim nevertheless maintained contact with us via prophets including Buddha, Moses, Mohammed, etc., all specially chosen and educated by them. The role of the prophets was to progressively educate humanity through the Messages they taught, each adapted to the culture and level of understanding at the time. They were also to leave traces of the Elohim so that we would be able to recognize them as our Creators and fellow human beings when we had advanced enough scientifically to understand them. Jesus, whose father was an Eloha, was given the task of spreading these messages throughout the world in preparation for this crucial time in which we are now privileged to live: the predicted Age Of Revelation.

Source

I mean come on. This guy...or cultist is using tactics that ANYBODY can identify to cash in a new religion on the growing ammount of atheists. How clever they would use humans as "our" creator. It's still goes against Atheist beliefs...

~Keeper

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You're joking right. ROLF

close, man....notice rael starts with holy scripture then goes into aliens. that's the hint. that's the whole jist. rael tries to twist away from scripture with ufos...so don't let em' twist it...ufo's may be actual...but read the scriptural account of who they are in Genisis. they are the nephilim. now you know the truth, and it's supernatural, just what you wanted!

I wouldn't have thought the most important book ever written would be "copyright-- all rights reserved." If the fate of humanity is involved, shouldn't they be spreading the word for free?

Originally posted by DJW001
I wouldn't have thought the most important book ever written would be "copyright-- all rights reserved." If the fate of humanity is involved, shouldn't they be spreading the word for free?

People don't commit if it's free.

Come on now, people only care if they are paying, and paying a lot at that.

Just look at scientology. It's no wonder the most prestigious members are the Celebs, they have the most money to throw at them.

~Keeper

The book is free.

The overall message is loving everything as yourself and doing the most good whenever possible. When the Elohim look at us, they see themselves, because we are all one. They love us, the same way our parents love us. They want us to love them.

What is wrong with love?