Political machine

SkepticOverlord .Advises that we should be pissed off and angry with our politicians. I must confess I agree with him somewhat. to let an idiot loose was unknown powers and money, you are looking for disaster. I say to people which be angry with first and foremost our politicians either Democrat or Republican, than ourselves. And here is why!

I have been hearing about for years difference conspiracy theories. Most are absolute total horse crap. And how this politician or that politician. He is going to do this country in. And going to create a dictatorship, or a new world order. Where are all the personal freedoms are we now enjoy in this country will be gone. Everyone seems to miss the main point. It's not the individual that we had to be afraid of. It is the political machine behind the individual. Stop looking at the individual idiot waving his arms, start looking at the what's behind him. Right now there are two great political machines in this country. We don't know who they are the Republicans and the Democrats. And as it stands now our political system centered around these two groups. Question when are we going to get tired of being screwed by both of these parties. IF is a one's not screwing up the other one will.

In the weapons I have another thread entitled AIRSOFT Conversion to firearm. It is about an ATF agent as a little paranoid and thanks at Airsoft weapons can be converted to fire live ammunition. For those of you who don't know what Airsoft is let me explain their one-to-one scale models of real weapons that fire a 6 mm pellet. Made it cheap metal and plastic. Like the plastic pipe at the hardware store, or made out of pot metal or light aluminum. But that's somewhat beside the point. The Republican political machine after 9/11 pushed through the patriot act. A law that allows the government on simple suspicion to accordingly without proof or probable cause or even due process.

In my other thread. I made it quite clear that it was not about the Second Amendment. I thought I'd praised it clever enough to get someone to ask a question then what amendments is this about. I highly got the chance to lay out. As I'm doing here if there is a lawyer that's worth his weight. And willing to work for the quill from the Spring court. It should take about 30 seconds to get the patriot act removed. Because it is not just about the Second Amendment, fourth and fifth sixth amendment rights. Here's why and how. Airguns do not follow under the jurisdiction of the ATF. No proof was shown or given of converting the Airsoft to live fire. And the importer was not given his day in court.

Do not make the mistake that the Democrats would not use the patriot act. In much the same manner they may lighten the techniques but they still are the same. Remember one thing that is more important than anything else. That Ben Franklin helped write our Constitution made the vote stronger than the bullet. If you have never voted you are one of the reasons why this country is in such a mess. If you want to fix this mess then vote, but whatever you do.! Do not vote Democrat or Republican vote for the third-party over the fourth party I don't give a rats ass. Just don't vote Democrat or Republican. And you will help fix the mess this country is in.

thank you draco61








[edit on 16-4-2010 by draco61]

i totally agree with ur assessment ...
leave the democrats AND repubs on the curb
vote independent or anything but those 2.
I'd suggest killing 2 birds with one stone by
electing a secessionist governor in all 50 states
as a back-up plan if a dem or rep gets back
into the white house.

the vote is in ur hands folks

You guys should have compulsory voting like we have down here. I dunno how you're supposed to have a democracy when 50% or more of your populous doesn't even vote.

Stuff the Dempublicans or Republocrats... Vote Green!!

reply to post by ghostsoldier


First up my apologies taking someone get back. But I've had one or two personal issues. Mostly deal with the mess our current governor of California made.

If you don't mind me asking where are you from.?
No offense but the Green party is still a little weak. But not a bad party

reply to post by boondock-saint


Could not agree with you more.

reply to post by draco61

I'm in Australia, our Greens party got around 11-12% of the vote in the last elections. They have a senator or two and people in parliament. And have recently formed a coalition with Labor (the democrats of Australia) in one of our states (TAS), there is 25 seats there, 10 went Labor (dems) and 10 went Liberal (republican) and 5 went to Greens about a month or so ago. They're gaining support.

And they make the most sense - they're not just a bunch of ferals.

reply to post by ghostsoldier


Ghost.
you kind of miss the point about this threat. This is about the governor of California abuse of his authority. When he declared a state of my fiscal financial emergency. And a former President Bush patriot act abuses of authority. Let me explain better. I'm currently on state disability with my wife. Or the governor declared an emergency we had a monthly income of $1650 a month. With state medical benefits that included decent medical. Fair dental and good optical. And had $1300 a month in rent and bills. Your is now we have. 1350 and bills and rent $1400 a month in income , medical cut by three quarters. Dental to emergency only, no optical.
You would have to read converting an Airsoft to live fire. To understand that reference.