Mexico Safer Than the U.S.A?

Mexico Safer Than the U.S.A?

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Mexico’s tourist zones much safer than many in U.S.

Now Mexico's real estate industry is fighting back. A day before President Barack Obama visits Mexico to discuss, among other things, the troublesome drug war issue, RE/MAX Investment Properties issued the results of its research claiming that tourist zones in Mexico are up to 26 times safer than many tourist zones in the United States.

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*Concentrates on something non-shallow to say.*

Um, well this is surprising news, kind of, because given the oppressive governments, state and federal that the U.S. has these days, not too surprising that there'd be some place more peaceful than here, especially that doesn't have as much technology to spy on you and instantly rollover your body with (yes I'm referring to that controversial video...).

Uh what else....

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reply to post by intrinsic


I would say that's either some pretty good spin
or those folks have their heads buried in the white sandy beaches...

Just this afternoon I posted the story of An eight-year-old girl was among six people shot dead in the Mexican holiday resort of Acapulco during a drug war shootout.

Hundreds of shots rang out in broad daylight on Miguel Aleman Boulevard, a wide, palm-lined avenue near major hotels, as tourists enjoyed the Spring holiday season.

The chaos is believed to have begun after hitmen killed two victims in a drive-by shooting. They were then pursued by police and wildly opened fire with their AK 47's... how the little girl and her mother ended up dead in front of her shcool

I agree Downtown LA can be a rough place but really... Mexico safer???

Link to my post on that story
www.abovetopsecret.com...

mexico safer than USA? laughable.

apparantly in the usa our militias just run around in the woods.

in mexico they snort meth and then set up a road block and storm raid police and military compounds.




you tell me bro.
you tell me.

It may "appear" to be safer should you be a paying tourist in a tourist zone. A lot of time, effort, money goes into making sure those industries/areas are supported. Even so, not sure I'd want to be on the west side of the country right now... Caribbean side seems better idea.




[edit on 15-4-2010 by LadySkadi]

Originally posted by LurkerMan
mexico safer than USA? laughable.

apparantly in the usa our militias just run around in the woods.

in mexico they snort meth and then set up a road block and storm raid police and military compounds.




you tell me bro.
you tell me.

Um, the militias aren't what you're supposed to be afraid of. They would be the good guys in this situation.

Clearly some commercial interest may introduce some bias here. Mexico seems/is on the verge of civil war and Remax is trying to sell properties there.

If the properties were located in Antartica, that would be marketed as a calm location with ocean view...

It does seem like there are 2 Mexicos -- the tourist areas and the rest of the country. Having been there a couple of times I found it really safe.

But then you see the odd pickup with a bunch of guys in back with rifles roll thru, and you wonder "Why?" You hear those horror stories -- all kinds of them. You get those checkpoints if u stray off the beaten path.

Obviously it is only safe in those limited areas where a lot has gone into making it so -- the recent killing in Acapulco notwithstanding.

reply to post by intrinsic


ehh i don't know about that. i see a videos almost weekly of people getting brutally murdered in mexico, recent videos.

if the videos weren't so bad i'd link about 5 recent decapitations (one with 7 heads, no bodies), and i wouldn't even have to look for them. mexico is much more intense than the states. we might rob you at gun point, but we usually won't walk up to somebody, stab them 5 to 20 times THAN loot the body.

This is probably due to the fact that most vacation destinations in Mexico are "all inclusive", so the tourists don't actually travel anywhere outside the resort. Whereas in the US, tourists tend to get "out and about"; thus, subjecting themselves to the criminal element.

Aside from that scenario, I would call this story pure spin. Nothing is safer in Mexico, nothing!

Of course their tourist areas are safer...unlike here in the US the police and government down there simply KILL off any problems that arise and bury them in ditches. Here even our scumbags have the right to walk among tourists.

You visit LA or NYC and you may be mugged, raped, robbed, etc...because we allow such people to walk around and do those things and then have to follow strict procedure guidlines on how to detain, arrest, treat, and convict those folks....

You visit Cancun and you don't have to worry about much because those who intended on coming to rape, rob, and mug tourists have already been killed and disposed of. They don't get "rights" and lawyers and due process...meaning usually even the most criminal minds know to stay the hell away from tourist areas because they will be dealt with swiftly.

Just like Jamaica...go see how they keep their tourists safe...they beat, kill, and simply DO NOT put up with criminal elements effecting their tourist revenue.

[edit on 4/16/2010 by rcwj1975]

Originally posted by LurkerMan
mexico safer than USA? laughable.

apparantly in the usa our militias just run around in the woods.

in mexico they snort meth and then set up a road block and storm raid police and military compounds.

you tell me bro.
you tell me.

Yeah, sure buddy. First rule of drug dealing is to never do the drugs you are selling if you plan on being successful. And meth? Why the hell would Mexican drug cartels take such risks in developing and distributing such a horrible drug?

Meth is produced by gangs within American/Canadian territory. Hell's Angels (and other continental gangs) produce it and sell it to the lesser gangs who fight for drug control.

Mexican cartels are dealing coc aine and marijuana, both are pure drugs to expand pleasure and intellectual capacity, not chemical drugs designed to ruin your life through addiction. The fact that American/Canadian governments would focus so hard on destroying the trade of legitimate drugs (like weed) instead of drugs (like meth or cigarrettes) shows extreme hypocracy.

And I could go on forever about drug stereotypes. Just because Mexico has a large drug industry does not mean all Mexicans are hopped up on meth and ready to decapitate American tourists. Has it ever occured to these god-fearing anti-drug people that marijuana is a very safe and spiritual drug that provides income to many people who otherwise could never survive in such a BS linear living system that we are forced to slave under in the Western hemisphere?

reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


Might want to double check that...we just arrested 11 mexicans trafficking 35lbs of meth from Mexico to Atlanta....the Mexicans have been in and will continue to be involved with the Meth game for a LONG time....its all about the $$$$$ to be made here in the south selling to the meth heads. The coc aine, MJ, and heroin are still northern drugs due to the cost.

Not if you eat food,


of any sort

Originally posted by rcwj1975
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

 

Might want to double check that...we just arrested 11 mexicans trafficking 35lbs of meth from Mexico to Atlanta....the Mexicans have been in and will continue to be involved with the Meth game for a LONG time....its all about the $$$$$ to be made here in the south selling to the meth heads. The coc aine, MJ, and heroin are still northern drugs due to the cost.

Let me rephrase myself, meth is not a main focus. What makes meth popular is that a meth lab can be easily deployed anywhere for cheap, and can make millions of dollars. Why would Mexican cartels ship meth around when meth is specifically designed to be made in a target area and sold in the same target area.

In my opinion, Mexican cartels would rather ship in drugs produced via crops since the cartels are able to grow these crops in their home territory.

But obviously meth is everywhere. It's like with ecstacy, British Columbia is the world's top producer. Ecstacy used to be a simple drug until consumers demanded more of a kick, so it is a standard now that all ecstacy is mixed with meth (so this is the main reason why there is meth in BC) aside from whatever is already mixed with the ecstacy (tabs are color coated to indicate different mixed drugs and effects, IE black tab with yellow dot is ecstacy and heroin).

reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


and whereabouts are you from again? canada? im actually on the border "buddy".

do me a favor and locate your nearest map.

now locate california, find the border, k thats where i am. its alot closer than you.

they havent imported marijuana here for at least 10-15 years. get with the program. google prop 215. coc aine usage is lower than its been in 20 years. and they still import it but its not anywhere close to the meth production levels.

ephedrine is banned, and psuedo-ephedrine (precursors to meth) are highly regulated and watched in the US. they are unregulated in mexico, where "superlabs" mass produce high quality meth and smuggle it over the border before any other because it demands the highest price and has the biggest market.

your stuck in the past and have absolutely no grasp on the current situation. meth has dominated markets on both sides of the border for the past 5-10 years easy.

this arguement is such a lost cause. you need to stop watching johnny depp movies.

Bollocks, Mexico is much much more dangerous than any state in the U.S.

reply to post by intrinsic


I highly doubt that. Especially with the drug war going on, even without the drug war i would be wary

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Originally posted by rcwj1975
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

 

Might want to double check that...we just arrested 11 mexicans trafficking 35lbs of meth from Mexico to Atlanta....the Mexicans have been in and will continue to be involved with the Meth game for a LONG time....its all about the $$$$$ to be made here in the south selling to the meth heads. The coc aine, MJ, and heroin are still northern drugs due to the cost.

Let me rephrase myself, meth is not a main focus. What makes meth popular is that a meth lab can be easily deployed anywhere for cheap, and can make millions of dollars. Why would Mexican cartels ship meth around when meth is specifically designed to be made in a target area and sold in the same target area.

In my opinion, Mexican cartels would rather ship in drugs produced via crops since the cartels are able to grow these crops in their home territory.

But obviously meth is everywhere. It's like with ecstacy, British Columbia is the world's top producer. Ecstacy used to be a simple drug until consumers demanded more of a kick, so it is a standard now that all ecstacy is mixed with meth (so this is the main reason why there is meth in BC) aside from whatever is already mixed with the ecstacy (tabs are color coated to indicate different mixed drugs and effects, IE black tab with yellow dot is ecstacy and heroin).

dear God i should have finished reading the thread before i replyed.

your knowledge on "ectsasy" speaks volumes.

pills are NOT "color coated" to indicate ANYTHING this is a myth from the 90's. on top of that HEROIN IS NEVER PUT IN ECSTASY PILLS, it would COST MORE TO MAKE, than they would get back. plus heroin isnt even active orally in the amount you can fit into a pill. im so sick of these idiotic rumors, and your just as ignorant for spreading such disinformation.

Ecstasy pill Test database.

another database

please find even 1 entry in there that tests posative for heroin, that isnt labeld a hoax. and while your at it show me a trend in "color coded" pills.



deny ignorance.

stop sensationalism.

I think I can safely say you can go to any country in the world, that's right, any, and always find at least one place that's safer than your own home.

Of course, you can always go to the zones you've been adviced not to go and get killed. The one question I would ask if I ever went to a particular place in Mexico is, does the safe zone include the road between the airport and the destination?