When did you "wake up" ?

Greetings everyone,

(fairly) new member: 1st thread

I came across something a few weeks ago while moving that kind of shocked me.

It's a painting I did some time ago. Best I can figure it was around the 5th or 6th grade making me around 10 years old... the subject matter is what I'd call "pretty obvious"

The not so obvious part, is HOW and WHY was i thinking about this when i was 10 years old? This would have made it around 1983, way before things like this were being talked about in the manner they are now,... but interestingly enough was right around the time Reagan was mentioning a "new world order" in his various speeches (exact dates escape me at the moment) - possibly even before then? Maybe someone can confirm...

Anyway, what do you guys (and/or gals ;-) think about this?

I really don't recall having any kind of knowledge about "the illuminati" or any "new world order" at that time, but I DO remember what i was thinking when i was painting this!

You see various tools around the center piece which illustrate something "being built" along with what looks like my early interpretation of a genome, or molecule, or?

Underneath you see a crowbar which (of course) is a tool as well but more often used to force/break something loose or apart... with a puzzle piece beside it.

The central "figure" is well known by now to everyone reading this.

The most interesting thing to me (other than the fact it appears to be extremely menacing and bloodthirsty - see red fingernails), is that the nose ("knows") is the same colour as the "cloud" or "brain" surrounding the capstone.

In between the "knows" and the "brain" we have the 3rd eye/all seeing eye, etc.... which kind of makes another statement regarding "hidden knowledge"

Honestly I'm kind of blown away just typing this because I've been looking at it for a couple weeks and not until now have I actually sat down and remembered what i was thinking at the time - which curiously, I am having no trouble doing.

I just thought I would share this here and maybe if any of you have some harbinger of the past coming back to haunt you, feel free to post.

[[ ps. the only edits performed were resizing and removal of my name near the bottom. ]]

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(edit: is there some reason why i can't insert a photo from photobucket??)



[edit on 15-4-2010 by HIWATT]

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Personally when you watch films like rocky 4, you have to wonder how such a message for a nwo comes over and what power it had on teh eastern block at the time. I think rocky 4 was one of the most important films ever for hollywood, and the underlining message about the nwo.

It showed how powerful movies are, if they are done right and a good message.

On me, like all of you i can remember times when i could say i know something was wrong about society when i was a kid, but you go along at that age.

But one has to wonder how a powerful message at the end of rocky 4, played in teh part of the people rising up in eastern europe.

The nwo is already here now, and we know that gorbo sold out russia, although puting has tried to bring it back, he has accepted that the world is one, but that does not mean we only have one side or power here.

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Thanks blupblup

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Rocky IV

"I must break you"

Probably the most prophetic line in the whole movie.

1985 yes, a lot going on at that time and i was just old enough to understand it was a really big deal in some way.

Being 36 now things have come a long way since then, and not really for the better in many way...

I guess in that respect this thread is as much about reflecting on the past from a very personal perspective and trying to put some "puzzle pieces" into place now having the context to do so.

the painting pic seems more like an early prototype for the (excuse the misspelling) SNUFF-A-LOFF-A-GUS on the kids channel


perhaps you missed the gravy-train on PBS

Originally posted by St Udio


the painting pic seems more like an early prototype for the (excuse the misspelling) SNUFF-A-LOFF-A-GUS on the kids channel


perhaps you missed the gravy-train on PBS

Other than a really long nose, i don't see a resemblence. But thanks for your input?

Did you have anything meaningful to add?

When did I wake up? Eeeer KNOW? 1967 I was lucky enough to have a CT mentor. It wasn't until 1991 or 1992 that I even MET a person who had heard the word Illuminati. Believe me, I asked hundreds in the years in between. Not until Steve Jackson's card game came out ... that's when people looked a bit further into it. Then the Internet helped to spread the word too.

Actually, I was mentored on the historical Bavarian Illuminati. There isn't really an Illuminati today, though, many groups CLAIM the expired mantle - all under different names and reasons - adding confusion.

The NWO is different, and it's 'recent history' actually begins around the League of Nations to United Nations change. (1930's and 1940') The term caught on when the Bush 41st used it in a speech exactly 10 or exactly 11 (I forgot which, but, wiki has it) years before 911 on Sept 11th!

The meanings have changed over the years.

Anyway, your triangles interest me for reasons unrelated (I'm into symbology among other things) and hope you will expound on any memory you might have of how and why you chose 5+7=12 triangles, TWICE even!

You were still a deep thinker and clever cookie at the age of 10!

Originally posted by Trexter Ziam

Anyway, your triangles interest me for reasons unrelated (I'm into symbology among other things) and hope you will expound on any memory you might have of how and why you chose 5+7=12 triangles, TWICE even!

You were still a deep thinker and clever cookie at the age of 10!

Interesting, i didn't notice that! (12 triangles in the "puzzle" and also in the pyramid)

Does that signify anything?... it sounded like you were alluding to something....
It doesn't ring any bells right off - but yeah, i find it curious as well. I actually had to look to find out where you saw that and then count them

Thanks for sharing


edit to add:

www.ridingthebeast.com...

A quick look at the symbolic relevance of the number 12 is a bit creepy to me, considering my childhood/family structure etc.

There are a few other things that kind of fall into this that i haven't decided on sharing (or not) yet. I may or may not, but thanks for picking that up!



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nice painting, i awoke in the summer of 2005

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after watching aaron russos video a few years ago...

When the world leaders started calling for a New World Order with an international currency after watching Aaron Russo's video.

23/04/98 In the wrong place at the wrong time mistaken by TPTB for something I am not,subjected to 8 years of psycotronic and spiritual warfare and electric harassment,I've been through timeline collapses,the bending of time and space and many other things.

Calling yourself "awake" is basically like screaming "I am a dumb egomaniac who is easily pacified when given a pleasing title that contradicts my own stupidity ".

I do not use the term "awake", and find most people who do to be the most "lost bunch of dreamers" out there.

The term is usually used by people who just recently found Alex Jones, Bill Cooper, David Icke, etc.

I also notice it is usually used by people with a low intelligence or a bad habit of feeling "enlightened" for no better reason then "seeing a youtube clip" or "reading a conspiracy book".

Being able to point out every eye over a pyramid and then claiming you are "awake to the Illuminati" is a farce.


I'm sure Socrates had a better way of saying it to you...but I am not philosopher.

ALL that aside.

AWSOME painting. I would hang it in my home.

Originally posted by Mr Mask
Calling yourself "awake" is basically like screaming "I am a dumb egomaniac who is easily pacified when given a pleasing title that contradicts my own stupidity ".

I do not use the term "awake", and find most people who do to be the most "lost bunch of dreamers" out there.

The term is usually used by people who just recently found Alex Jones, Bill Cooper, David Icke, etc.

I also notice it is usually used by people with a low intelligence or a bad habit of feeling "enlightened" for no better reason then "seeing a youtube clip" or "reading a conspiracy book".

Being able to point out every eye over a pyramid and then claiming you are "awake to the Illuminati" is a farce.


I'm sure Socrates had a better way of saying it to you...but I am not philosopher.

ALL that aside.

AWSOME painting. I would hang it in my home.

you couldnt be more wrong

....didnt deserve a second line

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Originally posted by alienesque
you couldnt be more wrong

Typical retort from someone claiming the status of "awake".

Pointless, hollow and effortless.

....didnt deserve a second line

Frankly, you didn't even need to share the first.

You could have simply waved your hands around and made a barking noise to achieve the same level of effect.

Like I said-

Self proclaimed "awake" = mindless droll best reserved for self-absorbed buffoons croaking on about nothing (while getting nothing done).

[edit on 16-4-2010 by Mr Mask]

Depends on how you define 'awake', I suppose. Going to grammar school in 1979 was a genuine eye-opener regards the class-system in England - and particularly the ramifications of being the bottom end of the class-system. That lead me to becoming more politically 'aware', and in the hot flush of youth, practically screaming for 'class war'.

I've tempered slightly as I've got older, but much of the problems I saw with the eyes of a schoolboy, I'm still seeing now but perhaps looking up on a larger picture.

when i saw jesse ventura and especially arnold schwarzenegger become Governor ,its just one big "show" put on just for us.

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by alienesque
you couldnt be more wrong

Typical retort from someone claiming the status of "awake".

Pointless, hollow and effortless.

....didnt deserve a second line

Frankly, you didn't even need to share the first.

You could have simply waved your hands around and made a barking noise to achieve the same level of effect.

Like I said-

Self proclaimed "awake" = mindless droll best reserved for self-absorbed buffoons croaking on about nothing (while getting nothing done).

[edit on 16-4-2010 by Mr Mask]

you seem..in your arrogance...to claim to know what everyone means when they say they 'woke up'...when in reality youve got no idea what the term 'woke up' for me means...

you obviously cannot claim to know such a thing and still expect to be taken seriously...

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Depends on how you define 'awake', I suppose. Going to grammar school in 1979 was a genuine eye-opener regards the class-system in England - and particularly the ramifications of being the bottom end of the class-system. That lead me to becoming more politically 'aware', and in the hot flush of youth, practically screaming for 'class war'.

I've tempered slightly as I've got older, but much of the problems I saw with the eyes of a schoolboy, I'm still seeing now but perhaps looking up on a larger picture.

exactly...it means different things for different people...for me it means the realization that we cant trust the governments or the MSM..in my case the BBC...and this was a particularly huge eye opener..i was brainwashed..like most british people...into believing the BBC was the fairest..most open and honest organization thats ever existed...like a good and decent member of the family...which im now almost ashamed to admit...its now so obvious to me how wrong this belief is it astounds me that i could have ever believed it....

that was my 'waking up'...