Oldest ufo case 1886!

This report is unbelievable a very close encounter which left the occupants with extensive swellings all nine occupants were treated for sores on the ninth day.
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Very interesting, thanks


I read a much lengthier version of this next (in a book) years ago
Searched for the online version just now, and this was included in the first result that came up. Could be a fuller version elsewhere online

1211 England, Gravesend, Kent: During a Sunday mass it is said that the congregation saw an anchor descend and catch on a tombstone in the churchyard. The churchgoers rushed outside to see a strange 'ship' in the sky, with people on board. One occupant of the vessel leaped over the side, but did not fall: 'as if swimming in water' he made his way through the air toward the anchor. The people on the ground tried to capture him. The man then 'hurried up to the ship.' His companions cut the anchor rope, and the ship then 'sailed out of sight.' The local blacksmith made ornaments from the abandoned anchor to decorate the church lectern.

www.bibleufo.com...


The above link contains a selection of similar tales, beginning in 1015

1015 Japan: Two objects were seen ‘giving birth’ to smaller luminous spheres over Japan.

This one's a bit nasty

1347 Europe: Black Plague, 1347-50:

Reports from this period feature strange cigarlike objects flying low through the sky and dispersing noxious mists.

Soon after these objects passed by, plague would break out in that area.

Other features from this period similar to modern UFO reports include sightings of mysterious MIB-like scythe-wielding "reapers" clad in black hoods & robes, and mysteriously slaughtered cattle and other animals.

One year before an outbreak of plague, a "column of fire" was seen over the Pope's palace at Avignon.

A monstrous "whale" was cast ashore at Egemont shortly before another plague outbreak, and numerous times during this period "rumblings like thunder" were heard even when there were no storms.

Blazing "comets" were seen numerous times in the heavens - some of which may have been real celestial objects frightening an omen-crazy populace - of which numerous were said to be accompanied by "flames" (aurorae?) hanging low in the sky.

www.bibleufo.com...

wow dock9 thanks for the links i guess the cases goes further back then i thought

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Excellent link regarding the ufo history and biblical connections. Its exactly what i was looking for regarding my thread Africa 2010. Its inevitable that soon everything will come to light soon

Excellent thread S&F You may not realise it yet but this thread will have some significance before long.(wether in your post or someone elses.

1783
• England: The scientist Tiberius Cavallo was a witness to a sighting that also stunned Royal guests at a celebration to mark the birth of the 15th son of King George 111 and Queen Charlotte! A luminous object appeared from beneath a cloud and soon became brilliantly lit before coming to a halt.

According To Cavallo"s account of the incident: "This strange sphere seemed at first to be pale blue in colour, but its luminosity increased and soon it set off again towards the east." Even though the sun was shining the object is said to have lit up everything on the ground and eventually disappeared with a terrific explosion!

• England, Greenwich: An object was observed that ‘gave birth’ to eight satellites, which disappeared slowly towards the Southeast.


• England, Sudbrooke: Several people saw a luminous object hovering in the northeast at approximately 2200hrs. It emitted fixed flashes of light, lightning, which lasted about 30 sec. The object then seperated into 7/8 pieces and travelled swiftly horizontally before disappearing in an arc like a rocket.

1845 Italy, Naples Astronomers at a Naples observatory recorded the appearance of several luminous discs, which left trails.

1846 USA: A 'luminous flying disc' was reported over this eastern seaboard area.

1847 England, London: A spherical craft was spotted rising vertically through the clouds.

1836 France, Cherbourg: In this French coastal town what was a described as a 'gleaming aerial vessel' was seen in the sky overhead.

1826 English Channel. Sailors in the Channel reported seeing a gray, torpedo-shaped object flying overhead.

1820 France, Embrun; A formation of flying objects crossed the French town. Francois Arago wrote of this date in the ‘Annales de chimie et de physique’: "Numerous observers have seen, during an eclipse of the moon, strange objects moving in straight lines. They were equally spaced and remained in line when they made turns. Their movements made a military precision."

1808 France, Piedmont: Formation of 'luminous discs' observed in the sky.

www.bibleufo.com...

1676 Edmond Hally, the astronomer who discovered Haley's comet, could recall two accounts involving unidentified crafts.

His first experience was in March of, when he saw a, as he said, "Vast body apparently bigger than the moon." He estimated it at 40 mi. above him. He also stated that it made a noise, "Like the rattling of a great cart over stones."

After estimating the distance it traveled in a matter of minutes, he came to the conclusion that it moved at a speed greater than 9,600 m.p.h.

1716 Edmond Hally’s second experience was 39 years after his first in 1676. Hally saw an object that hovered for more than two hours.

1680 France: The government issued a commemorative coin of a UFO sighting

1749 Japan: For four days three round objects were seen in the skies.

www.bibleufo.com...


Link contains hundreds of accounts from a vast choice of time periods


Could all those people be mistaken ?

Halley ? Credible witness ?

All gone to their maker now, no wiser then than we of today

thanks for the info dock9 star for you, alot of people think the first reported ufo cases were the foo fighters in the 40s and then you have the the summerians,egyptians,aboriginals with there art depicting ufos seems like the ufos have been here for a very long time

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The people of 'history' seem to us to remote, but apart from superficial differences, they were probably very much like us. And when they witnessed what they knew to be extraordinary events, they made note of it and would have wondered about and discussed those events, just as we still do today

This next, for example, in 393:

393 Strange lights were seen in the sky in the days of the Emperor Theodosius.

On a sudden, a bright globe appeared at midnight and shone brilliantly near the daystar, (Venus).

This globe shone little less brilliantly than the planet, and little by little, a great number of other glowing orbs drew near the first globe.

The spectacle was like a swarm of bees flying around the beekeeper, and the light of these orbs was as if they were dashing violently against each other. They blended together into one awful flame, and bodied forth to the eye as a horrible two-edged sword.

The strange globe, which was first seen now appeared like the pommel to a handle, and all the little orbs, fused with the first, shone as brilliantly as the first globe.

No weather balloons or commercial aircraft in 393. No Chemtrails to grey and obscure the skies. No atmospheric pollution. No tall buildings, no city smog (gee, how great must it have been) just clear skies seemingly reaching forever. And the people knew those skies. They had to. No weather forecasts because no radio or tv. So they watched the sky frequently, from childhood onwards. And they were quick to notice the unusual in those clear, empty skies

584 France: The Bishop of Tours in France, is perplexed by curious "domes and golden globes that raced across the sky".

664 England, Barking near the Thames: At a monastery a great light appeared in the sky at night and shone over nuns who were singing in the burial-ground.

They reported that it lifted up, moved to the other side of the monastery, and then ascended into the night sky. Priests said the light surpassed the brightness of day.

810 St. Gregory of Tours. "Alcuin, the secretary and biographer of Charlemagne, and author of the Vita karoli, states in his work that in 810 when he was on his way from Aachen, he saw a large sphere descend like lightning from the sky. It traveled from east to west and was so bright it made the monarch's horse rear up so that Charlemagne fell and injured himself severely."

This next is interesting

840 France, Lyons: As he was coming out of the Cathedral Archbishop Abobard, saw a mob stoning three men and a woman alleged to have been seen alighting from a aerial ship.

www.bibleufo.com...

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The fact is that as much as, what is considered mainstream, dismisses the sightings of today, they also dismiss those. Lets face it. If UFO's are a hoax, then it could be considered one of the greatest hoax's in history. Two many eyewitness's have seen them before man had the technology to fly. Or is it that there is a civilization already here so advanced that they can even hide among us. Watching each civilization. Waiting for the time that we actually come into adulthood as a society.

We are now ending the technological age. Each generation ends so another begins. I am sure most on this site would agree with the fact that things are not right how the world is today. More and more are starting to see that every single day, until the day when everyone sees it. Then that advanced civilization will be known to us. In the most personal sense.

But what is it that one considers advanced? Can you imagine the advance's that a peaceful society could achieve? A warring society cannot advance beyond their own deaths, unless they change. Once the world realizes this, only then can we even work to become advanced.

Nice thread. S&F

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great post as dock9 has said back then there were no known aircarfts what they saw they prob would of though it was a sign from god

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Yeah and who's to say?

Maybe they are for all we know of them.

It could definitely explain how religions where born. Someone who has no concept that humans can fly would try and make sense of the whole situation. Of course they would assume that what they saw was greater than their self. What they didn't understand was that the being operating the thing they saw was not greater, just more advanced.

Originally posted by Conclusion
It could definitely explain how religions where born. Someone who has no concept that humans can fly would try and make sense of the whole situation. Of course they would assume that what they saw was greater than their self. What they didn't understand was that the being operating the thing they saw was not greater, just more advanced.

good point and they would not have been brainwashed from the media/entertainment industry to think that ufos are make believe

Originally posted by Conclusion

But what is it that one considers advanced? Can you imagine the advance's that a peaceful society could achieve? A warring society cannot advance beyond their own deaths, unless they change. Once the world realizes this, only then can we even work to become advanced.

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I hope you're not talking about technological advancements here, because history has proven that war has been the driving force behind new technologies for centuries. Without war, we would currently be decades behind what we are today.

Neccessity is the mother of invention.

Sad, but true.

Great thread BTW, S&F

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That's what I have thought for years.

All it would take is for one ship to be seen by enough people and there you go, one sky god to order

I checked out that bibleufo site a few years ago. It was actually what got me into my endless search for the 'truth'(apart from having seen UFO's at a younger age). That site was the first to show me that UFO's are not just a twentieth century fad.

Good thread btw OP, s&f of course

Thanks to Dock9 for reminding me of the bibleufo site, makes a great case for shutting the sceptics up for a while.

yeah thanks again for everyone who brought in this valuable information makes the case for et/ufo much more believable since these et/ufos have been comming here for a very long time the thing i wonder did they show themselves to the ancient civilizations and make contact or is the human race still waiting for there contact to be made or maybe the human race will never be ready

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Originally posted by Dock9

1680 France: The government issued a commemorative coin of a UFO sighting

This one perked my interest, and I found this...

The legend written in Latin around the rim is also mystifying. 'OPPORTUNUS ADEST' translates as 'It is here at an opportune time.'

source:www.associatedcontent.com...

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That's a fascinating article and has small echoes of the Colares 1977 UFO flap. Based on the contents of the letter, it's unlikely to be any meteorological phenomena we know of...no record of ball lightning doing this either.

It'd be good to verify the letter as genuine and not a modern hoax. I've looked at the British Library catalogues, Am-Sci archives without any luck. The dates are correct...an issue was released on that day. Naturally, the issue is only really connected to the letter...but it would be, unless that particular issue had anything else more interesting. Typically, one good site is missing the exact right one!

Whilst looking to prove or debunk the letter, I ran across this great quote by President Thomas Jefferson. He didn't 'believe' in meteorites...

"I would more easily believe that (a) Yankee professor would lie than that stones would fall from heaven."

Classic

i found these ufos pics these are bc


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