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reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Define official as a means to restrain someone or something?

Officially millions of Americans are not allowed to use illegal narcotics.

They still do!

All that can happen to them is an Official punishment.

J Edgar Hoover claimed for years that there was no such thing as the Italian Mafia.

It did not officially exist, despite it's real impact.

In fact, I believe it would be rediculous to imagine, that the single wealthiest entity, and the largest property owner on Earth, wouldn't be running the entire show.

Ultimately due to the financial manipulation of Rome and the money markets, and banking system, capitilism, just leads to people, acquiring more property for Rome.

Why would someone read hundreds of pages of a binding contract?

Because the devil is in the details.

If you don't actually take the time to familiarize yourself with details, but feel adequately informed to form an opinion, you have in fact formed an opinion, opinion though and fact, are two different things.

A shadow government ruled by Rome rules the world, and you are a slave in it, whose existence and labor is taxed in excess, and what you have left, by and large goes to buying, leasing, and renting things, that the Shadow Government owns and runs.

I get that many people like this system, but that is the system.

Excuses for it, are just excuses for it.

Dare to be free!


[edit on 17/4/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
In fact, I believe it would be rediculous to imagine, that the single wealthiest entity, and the largest property owner on Earth, wouldn't be running the entire show.

What makes you think they are still the largest property owner on earth?

They may have been the largest during the middle ages and renaissance period but now? I don't think so! Your chasing ghosts and in return missing the big picture of (1)powerful families running central banks for profit and (2)the struggle between capitalism vs socialism vs communism.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Ultimately due to the financial manipulation of Rome and the money markets, and banking system, capitilism, just leads to people, acquiring more property for Rome.

Right, the church manipulates the financial systems when they can't even handle religion. LOL! Maybe your enthusiasm for capitalism is so excessive you need scapegoats?

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Because the devil is in the details.

And some people worship the devil that resides within earth or at least his minions do...

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I get that many people like this system, but that is the system.

Excuses for it, are just excuses for it.

Dare to be free!

Actually I hate capitalism and hope for socialism, not soviet "socialism" but REAL SOCIALISM where government is an extension of the people, money is printed by the government, medical care is affordable, people retire at 60, no more imperialistic wars, etc.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

What makes you think they are still the largest property owner on earth?

Something called Records of Title. Remember I am the one that reads all the details.

Anyway, I can appreciate you are happy with the current system and feel a need to justify it and explain it away, in ways that you feel should all make us happy in slavery too!

Why we won't be able to agree, at least not me with you, is the extroidanary priveleges and wealth bestowed on people like the Pope and the Queen.

It's an obvious smoking gun, and where there is smoke, there is fire.

Thanks for posting.

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A few weeks ago, you were one of the people that were vehemently attacking zionism as the main culprit for much of the world's woes. Now you are attacking the vatican and england.

Next week it will be the UN? Why not focus your attention more so you get better results?....

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

A few weeks ago, you were one of the people that were vehemently attacking zionism as the main culprit for much of the world's woes. Now you are attacking the vatican and england.

Next week it will be the UN? Why not focus your attention more so you get better results?....

i guess when all else fails, you attack the poster and not his data.

Oh well. "ad hominem" is an ugly color. It clashes with your suit.

[edit on 17-4-2010 by bigfatfurrytexan]

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


If you take the time to read through it all, I think what you might find is that there isn't a contradiction, but rather one long string of related situations. By all means, whatever you can refute, please do so. However, your criticism in the post I'm replying to isn't really valid (in my opinion), because the topics, like the Dude's carpet, tie everything together.

At least, it makes the attempt.

It's an extremely complex series of associations. A glance won't give you the picture. I'm not saying it's 100% accurate, but the threads in aggregate have brought some things to the fore I hadn't previously considered, or noticed.




[edit on 4/17/10 by MrDesolate]

Originally posted by MrDesolate
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

If you take the time to read through it all, I think what you might find is that there isn't a contradiction, but rather one long string of related situations. By all means, whatever you can refute, please do so. However, your criticism in the post I'm replying to isn't really valid (in my opinion), because the topics, like the Dude's carpet, tie everything together.

[edit on 4/17/10 by MrDesolate]

I am not here to entairtain people. I try to have a reasonable discusion but some people like to point fingers at anything and everything without really reaching a climax.

Thats fine! He has his point of view, I have mine and you have yours. The hard part is trying to tie everything together somehow but of course that is easier said then done.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Wotan

 

prince George was first and foremost a prince of the Holy Roman Empire, it is why it appears FIRST in his Title, his most important role was prince elector, and arch-treasurer of the Holy Roman Empire and the United States of America, his last title.

the most important Titles in a sequence of Titles are the First and the Last.

If the Titles had no meaning, they would not have been included, and certainly would not have framed all his other titles as bookends!

England is the property of Rome and always has been and always will be.

That is why London is a City/State immune from the Laws of England, like the Vatican is a City/State immune from the Laws of Italy, like the District of Columbia is a City/State immune from the Laws of the United States.

You are wrong!

George III used the official style ''George the Third, by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, and so forth"

In 1801, when Great Britain united with Ireland, he dropped his claim to the French Throne. His style then became, "George the Third, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, and so forth''.

The Vatican/Pope/Rome has no more claim to the UK, US or any other country as the French have a claim to the Isle of Wight.

If as you claim the City of London are immune to the laws of the UK, you go and try and break a law and lets see how far you get and how many years at Her Majestys Pleasure ...... I will look forward to seeing you.

reply to post by Wotan


Wow, another person who has not read the Treaty.

You are wrong, the Treaty clearly states his Titles and States them for a reason.

It's why I urge people to read the Treaties, as the most enduring truths are written in to them.

His Titles start out the Treaty of Paris.

Reading can be your friend.

What one poster has pointed out in relation to the current Queen is her Titles are so numerous, some of them only come up, and are Stated, when she is involved directly in the business of what that Title empowers her to be and do.

The fact that the Titles are mentioned prominently in the Treaty, as POWERS means that they APPLY.

Otherwise the TITLES would not be listed as POWERS.

See how that works?

Very simple.

Looking for complex ways to get around common sense, and logic?

Not so simple.

For everything else there is VISA, everywhere you want to be!

Taxes collected on every charge!

Yeah!

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

A few weeks ago, you were one of the people that were vehemently attacking zionism as the main culprit for much of the world's woes. Now you are attacking the vatican and england.

Next week it will be the UN? Why not focus your attention more so you get better results?....

This is not only entirely untrue, but unsourced too.

I am an outspoken critic of Zionism, but in fact, I see it to be an organization controlled by Rome, and can source dozens of posts where I have stated clearly in debates with people who think Zionism is the driving culprit that it is not, but that it is Rome.

What I have simply displayed in this thread is the road an American's Tax Money travels and why.

Obviously you don't appreciate that.

They have told me, you can't please everyone all of the time, and I am inclined to accept that.

I am not alone in these beliefs, and misrepresenting my own beliefs, and actions, as a obvious means to discredit, is well...

You know what that is!

Thanks for posting.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


You stated that King George was FIRST and FOREMOST a Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire. Well you are wrong.

He was FIRST and FOREMOST the King of Great Britain and so forth. The Prince Elector title does not come until way down the list.

IF you knew anything about titles, you would know that the highest ranking comes FIRST and FOREMOST ....... lesser titles, especially ceremonial ones like the third rate Prince Elector title are near the end of the line and are often dropped.

Also you would know that the Prince Elector title by that time was a ceremonial title not even endorsed by the Pope and without any power. Also you would know that a couple of years later the Holy Roman Empire disbanded. Not that Great Britain was a part of the Holy Roman Empire to begin with.

The papacy had lost most of its power way way before the American Revolution so what you are espousing is at most conjecture with NO EVIDENCE or wishful thinking on your part.

IT is for you to prove this theory. History is on my side.

reply to post by Wotan


Once again, reading can be your friend, the Treaty is available to you to read, where clearly you can see his title of "most potent prince", comes first and foremost, now if you understand anything about the law, the fact that his title of prince is in all small letters means it is not diminished or suffers from a loss of status in any way, yet King is capitalized, meaning he is diminished in his capacity as a King.

Who is his Kingship diminished by? Rome, by the Vicar of Christ, whom in his legal capacity as God, only allows the most potent prince, to serve as King, by his grace. Which is why the Kingship is diminished, his title as prince is inherited and unfettered genuine and unrestrained, it is why it is punctuated that way, his title as King though, is fettered, limited and restrained, because he can only be the King by the Grace of God, who is legally the Pope the vicar of Christ.

It’s all laid out in black and white, in the Treaty of Paris, and in the laws, many of which are quite old, that date back thousands of years, that some very educated and well read posters have shared on this thread with anyone who has eyes to see and read, and minds to learn.

The language of the titles in the Treaty is precise, and laid out, exactly as they meant it to be, for a specific purpose, that if you are not well read, and studied, you would never understand.

You have the right to freewill and confusion, you are not obligated to study and learn these things, you may choose not too, and choose to refute those that have, but that will not make a valid argument that overcomes what is clearly laid out in black and white.

Thanks for posting.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Sigh!

The Treaty I read showed exactly the titles in the order that I stated in my last post.

The Vatican had no rights over King George and you well know it. The UK is NOT under papist control and has not been since King Henry the Eighth. Read some British history.

You continue to live in your papist fantasy .... good luck.

Originally posted by Wotan
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Sigh!

The Treaty I read showed exactly the titles in the order that I stated in my last post.

The Vatican had no rights over King George and you well know it. The UK is NOT under papist control and has not been since King Henry the Eighth. Read some British history.

You continue to live in your papist fantasy .... good luck.

Hey, some straw is poking out of your hat!

Traveler said "most potent Prince" is the first thing listed in the treaty. He is right. You are wrong.

Originally posted by Wotan
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Sigh!

The Treaty I read showed exactly the titles in the order that I stated in my last post.

The Vatican had no rights over King George and you well know it. The UK is NOT under papist control and has not been since King Henry the Eighth. Read some British history.

You continue to live in your papist fantasy .... good luck.

Persistence of insistence is a poor strategy, but i suppose it is the only strategy you can employ when you have no basis for your position, outside of your own desire for what the truth could be.

Originally posted by Wotan
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Sigh!

The Treaty I read showed exactly the titles in the order that I stated in my last post.

The Vatican had no rights over King George and you well know it. The UK is NOT under papist control and has not been since King Henry the Eighth. Read some British history.

You continue to live in your papist fantasy .... good luck.

Earth to Wotan, of the Wotan Clan. The thread is about the TREATY OF PARIS, and the FULL AND RESPECTIVE POWERS OF the most potent prince, prince elector, and arch-treasurer known as George.

I am not interested in what appears in other Treaties afterwards, that has no bearing on the agreement of the Treaty of Paris, and the Obligations born out of it.

London and the British Monarchy is under control of the Vatican.

It's very obvious, and in reality there is so much real and circumstantial evidence to back up my theories, people really do have to start searching for silly ways to deny them.

I understand, you would prefer the blue pill and not the red one, it's ok!

Your argument though is not focused on the facts of the thread, the Treaty of Paris, the full and respective powers, the meanings of the Titles, the legal meanings of the words, as it is a legal document.

Your argument is focused on a fictional version of history that has been sold to the masses, to overcome the very rare occassions like in a treaty when they have to more or less spell it all out.

You love that fiction, and I am of the opinion it is a dangerous thing to love, as only the truth will set you free.

The most enslaved person is the one who imagines they are free, and our system of governance denies anyone the chance to be truly free, who sits at the top of that Pyramid? Rome, and I displayed, how it is involved, and the chain that is used.

Pretty simple.

Thanks for posting.

IMO the bests and most respected here, are those who dare to go, on the other side of the fence where no man has gone before, because their wisdom is pushing the boundary of knowledge and lead them to discern the true secret nature of our world even if some, who are too afraid to get out of their comfort zone, Jealousy critics them.

PT

[edit on 17-4-2010 by mick1423]

Originally posted by SpectreDC

Originally posted by Wotan
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Sigh!

The Treaty I read showed exactly the titles in the order that I stated in my last post.

The Vatican had no rights over King George and you well know it. The UK is NOT under papist control and has not been since King Henry the Eighth. Read some British history.

You continue to live in your papist fantasy .... good luck.

Hey, some straw is poking out of your hat!

Traveler said "most potent Prince" is the first thing listed in the treaty. He is right. You are wrong.

Ah my bad! That part of the treaty.

I still stand by what I say as if you know anything about Noble titles you will then know that ''The Most Potent Prince'' is a Nobility title that was used only in Great Britain. It has nothing to do with Rome, the Vatican or the planet Nibiru.

If you all want to believe your fantasy of Rome/Vatican/Pope controlling the world, then who am I to try and stop you from believing that. I am concerned that you are trying to peddle this fabricated BS onto people who are more gullible.

Originally posted by Wotan


Ah my bad! That part of the treaty.

I still stand by what I say as if you know anything about Noble titles you will then know that ''The Most Potent Prince'' is a Nobility title that was used only in Great Britain. It has nothing to do with Rome, the Vatican or the planet Nibiru.

If you all want to believe your fantasy of Rome/Vatican/Pope controlling the world, then who am I to try and stop you from believing that. I am concerned that you are trying to peddle this fabricated BS onto people who are more gullible.

So, you are shown how you are wrong, you shrug it off, and then proclaim that you are embracing your ignorance out of concern for "people who are more gullible"?

Do you not see the irony in that approach?

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At least I admitted I was wrong about that particular part of the treaty where a British Nobility title is placed before his Kingship title - the Elector title is still way down the list and has no significance. It does not alter anything major to what I have already said.