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Originally posted by polarwarrior
reply to post by fizzy1
" You may think you want to be free but the spirit wants the physical body and mind to be enslaved because of the huge benefits such as rapid learning, the words suffernig can be interchanged with spiritual catalyst. Were like precious stones being shaped by a course brush into a gleaming diamond, suffering is benficial to the soul, mainly for learning. So what the PTB are doing to us is a gift. Then I go onto ask what if some of us want them to leave but others dont, what percentage must be reached for TPTB to be breaking our free will if they continue. Its a question of collective free will verses individual free will. Can the free will decision be changed from within the incarnation even if proir to incarnation you chose not to be set free under any circumstance no matter how much you begged for it, thick in the midst of the apparent horror?"
So what your saying is we choose to incarnate into this dense and retrictive physical world to go through lifes challenges for our souls growth. The choices we make and what we chose to believe in to get us through the day is whats important. It sort of our individual reactions/actions that we gain knowledge not so much what is going on around us? Or possibly we actually choose to be challenged on this early plane with these TPTB who are here to test our resolve so that we grow and evolve faster?
[edit on 18-4-2010 by itsallmaya]
"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Albert Einstein
Originally posted by imans
reply to post by Unity_99
your logic dont stand at all, of course you cant observe the value of a realisation but from its realisator point, it is obvious that creations are never meaning any absolute and surely not an absolute reality as positive certainty one spirit of existence transformations done for infinite times life
what is weird is you asking to blame who never realize anything and never meant even to create any existence, the maximum awareness other then the first one are involved in creations is to say that they would like to profit from what is already meant the way it is meant
Originally posted by Unity_99
Originally posted by imans
reply to post by Unity_99
your logic dont stand at all, of course you cant observe the value of a realisation but from its realisator point, it is obvious that creations are never meaning any absolute and surely not an absolute reality as positive certainty one spirit of existence transformations done for infinite times life
what is weird is you asking to blame who never realize anything and never meant even to create any existence, the maximum awareness other then the first one are involved in creations is to say that they would like to profit from what is already meant the way it is meant
I was not asking to blame, he was teasing the OP and saying well, if you are the Creator, then theres a few annoying things to discuss, such as fleas.....! (paraphrased) and was actually funny!
I am pointing out who he truly is, and who we all are, we are the MANY IN ONE! In infinity there is no ONE, no beginning, no ending, but 11111111........forever, and there is always a Beyond, and beyond this yet another Beyond,and another and so on.
Our Higher Selves are the Creators/Designers/Programmers of the Infinite Universe School, more like a Dvd player in a sense metaphorically, and we are projecting our consciousness into a dvd, 3D earth time, duality school. Lesson to wake up to infinity and our true selves, and become ourselves, positive, love and care for everyone, equally here and pass the test.
So, my point to him was, also in fun, to say, don't go blaming him for all the annoying parts of this world, you've got to go talk to your own Higher Self about it. When we get mad at "god" the irony is........who are we really mad at: ourselves, in an infintie progression onward, into all the Beyonds.
Love & Light!
[edit on 18-4-2010 by Unity_99]
Originally posted by imans
reply to post by Unity_99
obviously you never experience any truth ....