Cops shows up at my house - Strange reason

reply to post by Maxmars


Thank you for explaining....I DID think you meant that the police didn't care, that is how I read the comment. Working in an ER, I would like to emphasize that MOST people who work there DO care and are just as frustrated by the situation as anyone else. The employees that care for the patients are very different and very removed from the administration. I have seen first hand how the system is ridiculous and at times seems like it ISN'T about the patients, but the bottom dollar. Just remember though that it is extremely frustrating for the people having to work in it, who only want to do their job and help people. I am considering getting into a different line or work because I am so sick of all the BS.

As for the police transporting people to the ER, I stand firm on this one. I am elso an EMT and have worked in emergency medicine for years. Yes, there is the liability issue, but that's for a reason. Because it IS a liability to that persons health for a non-helathcare provider to transport them! People have this misconception that they are going to get faster care if someone drags them to the ER in a car instead of calling an ambulance bu that is just not true. The police have their policies for a reason and they are good ones. It has nothing to do with them caring or not.

I admit I should have kept the personal comment out, my apologies. I just get a little frustrated with some of the atmosphere here lately.

reply to post by getreadyalready


I agree. This not my first time at the staph rodeo. The last time it entered my mouth it nearly killed me. Turned into MRSA and my throat was nearly closed.

Just waiting for my doc to return from lunch. Then I'm off to his office.

Please pardon my spelling and omission of words. Went to the opthamologist recently and I need corrective lenses. Never wore glasses in my life.

reply to post by westcoast


I respect your stance on the police transporting people.

For one, I know that this can lead to incredible abuses, and I don't have the first-responder experiences that you do. Frankly, I can imagine, if I were a policeman, I would feel uneasy to say the least at the prospect.

I don't fault people per se, for those problems I cited. I guess my frustration was expressed a bit too flatly, and please; if it means anything to you at all, we need people like you to help us in these matters; don't quit.

We don't need those administrators and fossil doctors to indoctrinate our young medical professionals and staffers as they've been doing for the last 50 years.

We need people who recognize that humanity is expressed, not practiced... and Medicine is an art, not a skill.

[edit on 12-4-2010 by Maxmars]

I have only read a FEW responses...but I have been to the ER DOZENS of times in my 43 years....and have NEVER had a cop, a nurse, a nun nor god show up on my doorstep after I left the ER in a huff because I am vomiting and in so much pain that I wish death would hurry up....and nobody gave a shiiiiiite...NEVER in 43 years......seems creepy to me.....

reply to post by Maxmars


Oh trust me, I am not a favorite of Admin because I am a HUGE patient advocate, as well as society in general, and I speak my mind. My mouth has gotten me into trouble in the past and I am sure it will again in the future.

To stay on track here....to the last poster. You need to read all the posts in regards to what happened that night. It would appear (to me anyways) that they ER staff had legitemate fear for him and that is why they had the police check on his welfare. They tried to call him several times but did not get an answer, so sending the police was most liely their last resort.

reply to post by brilab45


When you do call the VA up to make an appointment, the recording always states if it is an emergency to hang up and dial 911. I think a staph infection (which is highly contagious) would qualify as an emergency. Usually, one gets prompt care at the nearest emergency room prepared for such cases. (You will get transferred or asked if you want to go to the VA hospital, always say yes. The VA will pick up the tab when you do that.)

VA hospitals do not have emergency rooms, but urgent care areas. Urgent care might be a broken leg, cut requiring stitches and other such things. If one has a serious problem, they should tell the VA staff member at the counter and one gets looked at immediately.

As you can see, I have been in and out of the health care system many times and know a thing or two about it now.

Just an update. As ususal, my civilian Dr. saw me quickly and administered the appropriate medications. Was treated like a human and not a piece of meat. In a couple weeks, (or i hope less) I will be normal again.

Thanx everyone for the support and U2U's.

But if you flag down an officer and beg him to take you to the hospital for whatever reason -- forget it. It ain't happening. You will wait for the ambulance pain and suffering notwithstanding... unless death is imminent.

Odd little practice there... considering how long it takes them to come if there are a bunch of hooligans disturbing the peace in from of your home.

This comment is appalling, offensive to any rational person, and absolutely true. If the comment bothers you, then you should be doing something to change the way things work, because it's an accurate reflection of reality.

This differs from cop to cop, of course. It also depends on the cop's mood and how big a jerk the cop's supervisor is (a lot of police officers would like to do the right thing but they're just like anybody else, dudes with jobs) that week, and any number of other factors. But when it comes down to brass tacks, if everything is running according to strict protocol, a cop will track you down for liability purposes for a hospital but won't take you to the hospital if you're injured.

To the OP: Sorry about your illness, that is seriously terrible. You definitely didn't need the added hassle from the cop, but try to get angry at the System and not the individual officer. He was just doing a (very stupid) part of his job.

reply to post by EzraBuckley


Thank you for your compassion. I'm not angry, just perplexed. The early morning knock on my door did perturb me a bit. I guess I am at the point in believing the police state is an actual reality. It kinda scares me.



[edit on 12-4-2010 by brilab45]

reply to post by Maxmars


The problem is not the police officer, it is they are not equipped with any medical stuff you might need. What if you suffer a cardiac arrest or seizure on the way to the ER? An ambulance has the equipment and professionals needed for the trip to the ER.

A life or death situation, yes they will get you there. All others, it is best to wait the extra minute for the professional care.

Edited to add: If I saw a person lying in pain, I would immediately call 911 and see that the person is comfortable. I would not try to move such person but try to get as much information to relay it to the paramedics when they arrive. The police usually do the same in the situation.

[edit on 4/13/2010 by kidflash2008]

Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Maxmars

 

The problem is not the police officer, it is they are not equipped with any medical stuff you might need. What if you suffer a cardiac arrest or seizure on the way to the ER? An ambulance has the equipment and professionals needed for the trip to the ER.

A life or death situation, yes they will get you there. All others, it is best to wait the extra minute for the professional care.

Edited to add: If I saw a person lying in pain, I would immediately call 911 and see that the person is comfortable. I would not try to move such person but try to get as much information to relay it to the paramedics when they arrive. The police usually do the same in the situation.

[edit on 4/13/2010 by kidflash2008]

Thank you for another voice of reason.

As I said before, I have been a medical responder for years, as well as work in an ER and I know many cops. It is not a question of compassion, caring or not want wanting to waste their time helping. I think it is just ridiculous to even suggest it.

You said what I did not. It the simple FACT that they are not trained, or equipped to help someone who is ill or hurt. It's like saying that the dog catcher should throw you in their kennel and drive you to the hospital because they are paid with tax dollars. It just doesn't make sense. Even as an EMT I would NEVER put someone who needed emergency care into my car and transport them. I have had to refuse to do this with employers in the past, because it is not safe and is not what is best for the patient. I can not care for someone properly in my care when I am DRIVING and have NO equipment. The only time it is appropriate for me to transport someone is when I am in an ambulance. This, by the way, includes family members, who I have had to call an ambulance for.

There are some police officers who are also EMT's. I know personally of serveral instances where the police were on scene first and provided emergency care, performed CPR and actually saved lives. BUT...they did NOT transport them! They provided the care they could with the limited first aid equipment they had and called for help, from the professional healthcare providers who then took over the care and SAFELY transported the patient.

I just don't get the constant COP bashing on this site. I get sick of it. They are PUBLIC servants because they care about the public.

That officer checking up on the OP was doing a WELFARE check, to check and make sure he was safe. It wasn't anything sinister. The police are not out there to get you, but to PROTECT you. It is their CIVIL duty to do so.

I'm resurrecting this post for several reasons.

1. I'm not getting better. I am very nauseaus and am concerned about the deep facial scars that have occurred and I'm not sure why I feel like hell still. Doctors, please help me out. Why am I so nauseaus and bedridden?

2. An MNSBC reporter caught wind of my post and wants to to a story on my post. I refused to give my name and she dropped me hopefully. I do not want to be in the media nationwide. Don't want the emails and endless phone calls. Plus you smart folks here would find out who I am. I like an anonymous life.

3. I am at a standstill as to why a policeman showed up at my house. I want a better answer. My privacy rights were invaded. Why did this happen? It was wrong and a terrible inconvenience.

Someone in the medical community please give me an answer ( from all fronts, health and privacy).

Thank you,

B

Brilab45,

Not a doctor, but I'm a molecular biologist...

If I were you, I would start a regimen of colloidal silver (can be found at any health food store or WholeFoods Store) and garlic + Allicin c:
www.rense.com...

then I would find myself a chiropracter or someone else who practices "alternative medicine" who could hook you up with an ozone machine. Let the machine run ozone over your skin infections.

MRSA won't stand a chance.

They haven't done this to me yet but they have threatened it. I have to see my RN once a week, they visit my house, and if I'm not there they will try relentlessly to get ahold of me. Its mainly because I'm in the MXCHIM program.

Lightofliberty......not sure what the MXCHIM program is.

ANNOUNCEMENT

My story went into print on MSNBC. There is a reference to ATS. Here is the link"

www.msnbc.msn.com...

How the heck did they know you were an ATS member? Any thoughts? I'm dying to know!

reply to post by nunya13


Another member is a "friend" of the person who authored the article. Out of respect for the member, I will not release his name. Really, I do not know if this person is scouring for literature or if he/she works for MSNBC. I exchanged emails with the member giving one of my e-mail addresses I rarely use (where all emails go to spam). I detailed everything for her. Thank god it stayed annonymous.

Emailed ATS to bargain for some points, but no answer. Hey, if ya don't ask..............

reply to post by brilab45


Ah, mystery solved. Makes sense. Thank you for the clarification. You should really be sure to take care of yourself.

reply to post by nunya13


At least one patient tracked down by police after leaving a Veterans Affairs urgent care center found the experience unnecessary. The patient, who posted an account on the website AboveTopSecret.com, suffered from a staph infection and other ailments and left the emergency room after becoming nauseated during a long wait. At 2:30 a.m., there was a knock on the door.

"Told the policeman I had a staph infection and he backed away," wrote the poster, who confirmed the experience to msnbc.com, but did not want to be identified. "Told him I would see my primary care provider in the morning and that I could not believe they sent the

reply to post by nunya13


Thank you for your concern. I'm into this think going over 40 days. It comes, it goes. I get excited its clearing and then...BAM! Starts up again. Doctor keeps me on one antibiotic, but I am at the realization I need to be on Vancomycin. Have not left the house in long time, except for the E.R. trip. My PCP handled me by phone. Don't blame him really.