WW3 Shall Secretly Ignite

WW3 Shall Secretly Ignite

Dont you think by this time countries know better than to announce a threat when it comes to initiating the next big war, to try to keep from a long war? World War III will come without announcements. Countries that have the will to push the red button aren't stupid to forewarn their target to when they will send forth heavily their missiles. All that big talk you've heard before in the MSM between, say, Russia and the U.S. not too long ago only meant that they both weren't going to ignite World War III yet. I tell you, a country going to do something that will start World War III wont forewarn the enemy. Why? So they can have the biggest advantage in the beginning of a warfare.

Look, World War III is coming not by threat. Watch. You will be seeing it finally happen between countries. You can count on the U.S. being bombed up the first wave severely before it can have time to retaliate well enough.

Any of you believe in angels? Well, I have a clue picked up by way of the Gospel that says the angels in disguise as humans shall be behind bringing on World War III. The astral projected members of society will be first to know when any country is indeed going to launch a 'without warning' attack. Mark my words and remember me saying this, but Word War III is coming soon. It's coming this year, and the MSM wont be giving any warning signs since a country going to go through with it will know to not warn the target nor do it when there are tensions between either. But a country will seek to destroy when it sees its oppurtunity to. But like I said, the angels that are disguised as humans shall be behind sparking off another world war called Word War III. Just you be alert. Without warning there will be no time to try to save yourself or be MR. SURVIVAL. Unlike certain of you, innerly I am apart of my own God, and innerly I will be raptured with my higher power spirit guide who happens to be one of my wives of paradise.

Do any of you doubt World War III shall secretly ignite? Speak your peice, or hold your peace like rocks. I know at least that the U.S. is going to be the target that gets hit something real bad. You bible readers do remember the stories of Noah and Lot. A flood of missiles coming is likened unto a flood back in the days of Noah. As for Lot, if you're raptured, then that is likened unto not being there when physical bodies turn into a pillar of salt.

[edit on 11-4-2010 by Tormentations]

If a war was to ignite, I highly doubt its going to be a the next world war.

Believe it or not, many countries are on a smooth road to recovery and forming new positive relationships. If we see another war, it will be against a single nation and thus not a world war.

reply to post by Tormentations


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I've known about this story for many years. If so then indeed there
might not be much warning..people will think peace and safety like
it says in the bibile then sudden destruction. I guess what I'm trying to say
is just know that you are ready at any time..during peace or war.
I'm not ready but maybe you are. I'm not trying to be offensive.
It's just food for thought.

Show me in the Bible where it mentions you will be raptured.

Then explain how you know you will be and others here won't be.

Then explain how a World War could secretly ignite, I mean we are talking about the World being involved...

Lots of religious overtones here! perhaps you need further study friend, for i think u are confused some. . Nowere in te bible does it say that angles, good or bad can inhabit a human since jesus died. The fallen angles are in charge of this world, behind the sceens. However mankind doesnt need much persuasion to do evil. The bible clearly states god almighty will not let man destroy the earth, and will stop any nuclear strike. in fact the last war will be stopped before it gets too outa hand.
We are already in the last war, as seen all over the world. Nations are already fighting with arms and means we dont see. Nations are already choosing and changing sides in this last struggle to destroy the earth.
The usa already is involved in a holocaust in the middle east. china is poisoning people all over the world--russia just became the richest country in the world with its oil and natural gas reserves, it is now the largest exporter of oil, which means power and riches. all countries are waging a resource war and destroying the planet-gods holy creation.
The final war that the bible states takes place on every front imaginable-from weapons to mind games----but keep studdying for time is short.
One thing to watch is germany and its new found last rise of the holy roman empire. watch the EU take off in the lead of nations, all will try to control israel which is key in the prophacies.
whatever the end brings all christians are safe. though we die we live -however the american continent is not figured in the very last days for we will have already perished-renderd non-important for are sins are the greatest comming from a free nation-saying it is godly and just, working instead againts god with are forked tongue way of life.
so you see the war you talk about is already here.

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What are you reading? The Optimist Gazette? There is no economic recovery; sales are higher at Store A because Store B, C, & D went out of business. The underemployed and the unemployed will be squeezed of their remaining savings once inflation sets in and taxes continue to go higher. The only countries finding warmer relations are those who must stand side-by-side to fend off the threat looming on the horizon. And if you think those friends standing side-by-side will be the US, Russia and China holding hands singing "Joy To The World," you really need to WAKE UP!

Almost forgot...Greece getting it's bailout, yeah---that's how you pave a smooth road to recovery! :sarcasm:

[edit on 12-4-2010 by joojii]

[edit on 12-4-2010 by joojii]

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Go back and read my post...did I mention economic recovery? No. Did I imply economic recovery? No. So where did that come from?

When I mentioned recovery, I meant that countries whom have been in battle (i.e battle ravaged nations) are slowly making aid related recoveries.

And if you think those friends standing side-by-side will be the US, Russia and China holding hands singing "Joy To The World," you really need to WAKE UP!

Again, another self implied comment. As I said, if a war was to begin, it would be against a single nation not the world.

The only World War I see coming is Iran and Isreal and then Isreal will pull us down with them and it will be the U.S./Isreal vs The World.

Its going to be a disaster so many countrys hate America and all the bullying we do I see America gone if we try to help Isreal.

Hell Russia has already warned us not to mess with Iran.

Well if it does happen, there aint a damn thing we can do to stop it!

Just sit back, watch the show and crack open a bottle of your finest.

double post ...sorry...

[edit on 12-4-2010 by grantbeed]

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Hey, my bunker in equipped with Heineken on tap, feel free to join.

Originally posted by Signals
Show me in the Bible where it mentions you will be raptured.

Then explain how you know you will be and others here won't be.

Then explain how a World War could secretly ignite, I mean we are talking about the World being involved...

Where it reads knoweth no man (male and female; husband and wife). That means man shall be raptured to not know that day and that hour. Only man will be raptured, not the members of the devil. The angels will destroy the world like they destroyed that city in the story of Lot. The angels are agents sent by the Son of man which is God. The angels are already among us disguised as humans that come up how we come up, from birth. The thing is, is that angels are not alive to know anything, but they operate like intelligent robot people to fullfill God's will. They've been falling into place since who knows when.

Once the first batch of missiles get shot off whose to say a country will even know since there is stealth technologies? A country can be hit without warning nowadays, then only try to retaliate. The thing is, is that in retailiation they may send out missiles to who they only think may be behind it. That would be all which they know are capable.

And yes, in the beginning God created them each a marriage (male and female; husband and wife; Spirit and bride) from the get-go, then showed how bad it would be with creating man just male first with the story of Adam and Eve.

World War III is that day of the end come. That hour is when man (male and female; husband and wife via spirit) are back in paradise as though they never been a day outside paradise. It is something how the will of God can blend you into a surrounding to where you know not that you've ever been a time anywhere else. That's how well kept paradise is from outside bad thoughts even. So basically, the hour any man (the Spirit male and the bride female) gets back to paradise they will not know they've ever been upon a place called Earth. That's how smooth and perfect paradise is in matters concerning the mind's minding.

[edit on 12-4-2010 by Tormentations]

I was told to wait for 3.99 a gallon of gasoline ... (Retail) and go LONG Gasoline Futures at that point and wait for 90 - 120 days for WWIII to kick off and sell in the 9.?? area -- I was told to get out before $10 a gallon or 9.99 a gallon at the pumps. the information I received is from a credible source that wishes my family and I to survive. (and yes, oil executive for 32 years is my source)

Originally posted by Tormentations
Mark my words and remember me saying this, but Word War III is coming soon. It's coming this year

So... where do you get "this year" from. You sound very certain about the timeframe. What gives?

[edit on 4/12/2010 by this_is_who_we_are]

Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by Tormentations
Mark my words and remember me saying this, but Word War III is coming soon. It's coming this year

So... where do you get "this year" from. You sound very certain about the timeframe. What gives?

[edit on 4/12/2010 by this_is_who_we_are]

I base it on a revelation I've recieved. Which is also based upon my spirit guide who keyed me in in a lead up kind of way. A message I got from my spirit guide was accompanied with the feeling of ecstasy which has to do with the rapture. Before that message I got another message which was of an intelligent military aid which was accompanied with the feeling of a strong, intelligent military height oreintation.



[edit on 12-4-2010 by Tormentations]

Originally posted by Tormentations

Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by Tormentations
Mark my words and remember me saying this, but Word War III is coming soon. It's coming this year

So... where do you get "this year" from. You sound very certain about the timeframe. What gives?

[edit on 4/12/2010 by this_is_who_we_are]

I base it on a revelation I've recieved. Which is also based upon my spirit guide who keyed me in in a lead up kind of way. A message I got from my spirit guide was accompanied with the feeling of ecstasy which has to do with the rapture. Before that message I got another message which was of an military aid which was accompanied with the feeling of a strong military oreintation.

[edit on 12-4-2010 by Tormentations]

...uh huh
well... er...um
what else can I say?

" I will be raptured " Not reliable Biblical teaching.

"with my higher power spirit guide" Not Biblical teaching at all.

" who happens to be one of my wives of paradise." Not Biblical teaching at all.

This prophecy appears to be based on a combination of at least three different belief systems.


[edit on 12-4-2010 by DISRAELI]

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Sorry, hate to break it to you, WWIII started long ago.

It's called the War on Terror and they picked that name for a reason.

Sliding it in under the radar as a war about terrorism and the eradication of terrorism, was the World Government's way of eliminating opposition of it, by anyone who was against another idiotic war like WWI and WWII where the allies and enemies would not side with each other quite as easily as the Allies and Axis did, where those on the sidelines took their sweet time getting involved.

U.N.S.C. and 2012 : Political Ideologies, Nations United, and Views on Terrorism : Conflict Earth

This time around, the war being in regards to "terror", World Government can use this innocuous sounding cause, that has many definitions throughout the world as a surreptitios means of throwing everyone into the mix, and as well that every continent can throw all people who disagree vocally with Government, when and where they have free speech.

The formula is in the Hegelian Dialectic, abstract, negative, concrete.

Quote from : Wikipedia : Hegelian Dialectic

Hegelian dialectic, usually presented in a three-fold manner, was stated by Heinrich Moritz Chalybäus as comprising three dialectical stages of development: a thesis, giving rise to its reaction, an antithesis, which contradicts or negates the thesis, and the tension between the two being resolved by means of a synthesis.

Although this model is often named after Hegel, he himself never used that specific formulation. Hegel ascribed that terminology to Kant.

Carrying on Kant's work, Fichte greatly elaborated on the synthesis model, and popularized it.

On the other hand, Hegel did use a three-valued logical model that is very similar to the antithesis model, but Hegel's most usual terms were: Abstract-Negative-Concrete.

Sometimes Hegel would use the terms, Immediate-Mediated-Concrete.

Hegel used these terms hundreds of times throughout his works.

The formula, Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis, does not explain why the Thesis requires an Antithesis.

However, the formula, Abstract-Negative-Concrete, suggests a flaw in any initial thesis—it is too abstract and lacks the negative of trial, error and experience.

The same applies to the formula, Immediate-Mediated-Concrete.

For Hegel, the Concrete, the Synthesis, the Absolute, must always pass through the phase of the Negative, that is, Mediation.

This is the actual essence of what is popularly called Hegelian Dialectics.

To describe the activity of overcoming the negative, Hegel also often used the term Aufhebung, variously translated into English as "sublation" or "overcoming," to conceive of the working of the dialectic.

Roughly, the term indicates preserving the useful portion of an idea, thing, society, etc., while moving beyond its limitations.

(Jacques Derrida's preferred French translation of the term was relever).

In the Logic, for instance, Hegel describes a dialectic of existence: first, existence must be posited as pure Being (Sein); but pure Being, upon examination, is found to be indistinguishable from Nothing (Nichts).

When it is realized that what is coming into being is, at the same time, also returning to nothing (in life, for example, one's living is also a dying), both Being and Nothing are united as Becoming.

As in the Socratic dialectic, Hegel claimed to proceed by making implicit contradictions explicit: each stage of the process is the product of contradictions inherent or implicit in the preceding stage.

For Hegel, the whole of history is one tremendous dialectic, major stages of which chart a progression from self-alienation as slavery to self-unification and realization as the rational, constitutional state of free and equal citizens.

The Hegelian dialectic cannot be mechanically applied for any chosen thesis.

Critics argue that the selection of any antithesis, other than the logical negation of the thesis, is subjective.

Then, if the logical negation is used as the antithesis, there is no rigorous way to derive a synthesis.

In practice, when an antithesis is selected to suit the user's subjective purpose, the resulting "contradictions" are rhetorical, not logical, and the resulting synthesis is not rigorously defensible against a multitude of other possible syntheses.

The problem with the Fichtean "Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis" model is that it implies that contradictions or negations come from outside of things.

Hegel's point is that they are inherent in and internal to things.

This conception of dialectics derives ultimately from Heraclitus.

Hegel has outlined that the purpose of dialectics is "to study things in their own being and movement and thus to demonstrate the finitude of the partial categories of understanding"

One important dialectical principle for Hegel is the transition from quantity to quality, which he terms the Measure. The measure is the qualitative quantum, the quantum is the existence of quantity.

"The identity between quantity and quality, which is found in Measure, is at first only implicit, and not yet explicitly realised.

In other words, these two categories, which unite in Measure, each claim an independent authority.

On the one hand, the quantitative features of existence may be altered, without affecting its quality.

On the other hand, this increase and diminution, immaterial though it be, has its limit, by exceeding which the quality suffers change. [...] But if the quantity present in measure exceeds a certain limit, the quality corresponding to it is also put in abeyance.

This however is not a negation of quality altogether, but only of this definite quality, the place of which is at once occupied by another.

This process of measure, which appears alternately as a mere change in quantity, and then as a sudden revulsion of quantity into quality, may be envisaged under the figure of a nodal (knotted) line".

As an example, Hegel mentions the states of aggregation of water:

"Thus the temperature of water is, in the first place, a point of no consequence in respect of its liquidity: still with the increase or diminution of the temperature of the liquid water, there comes a point where this state of cohesion suffers a qualitative change, and the water is converted into steam or ice".

As other examples Hegel mentions the reaching of a point where a single additional grain makes a heap of wheat; or where the bald-tail is produced, if we continue plucking out single hairs.

Another important principle for Hegel is the negation of the negation, which he also terms Aufhebung (sublation): Something is only what it is in its relation to another, but by the negation of the negation this something incorporates the other into itself.

The dialectical movement involves two moments that negate each other, a somewhat and an another.

As a result of the negation of the negation, "something becomes an other; this other is itself somewhat; therefore it likewise becomes an other, and so on ad infinitum".

Something in its passage into other only joins with itself, it is self-related.

In becoming there are two moments : coming-to-be and ceasing-to-be: by sublation, i.e. negation of the negation, being passes over into nothing, it ceases to be, but something new shows up, is coming to be.

What is sublated (aufgehoben) on the one hand ceases to be and is put to an end, but on the other hand it is preserved and maintained.

In dialectics, a totality transform itself, it is self-related.

In other words, it is a free-for-all, and the laws are vague and open to interpretation so as to be able to claim anyone is a "terrorist" for merely speaking their mind, and sooner or later it will escalate beyond the means of even those crass and callous individuals who began this war, those men and women in World Government, because they will find themselves slaughtered as well as those they fling to the ends of the Earth.

There was an online news story after 9/11 where a family member of a Flight 93 person claimed the War on Terror was the citizens first step, in relation to his family member taking out terrorist's, in civilians taking down terrorist's, in WWIII, the War on Terror, and George W. Bush applauded the sentiment.

Internet Archive Website/War On Terror Being Called WW III

The article is long since expired but it was there and I should have copied and pasted it wholly, and saved it on a hard drive, and as well within a thread.

This is because the word "terror" is an abstract ideal.

Through the use of abstract meanings, the negative of it happening, it sets in concrete, those laws as they make them up after events like the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, the Oklahoma City Bombing, and 9/11.

[edit on 12-4-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

Originally posted by DISRAELI
" I will be raptured " Not reliable Biblical teaching.

"with my higher power spirit guide" Not Biblical teaching at all.

" who happens to be one of my wives of paradise." Not Biblical teaching at all.

This prophecy appears to be based on a combination of at least three different belief systems.


[edit on 12-4-2010 by DISRAELI]

Well I go by revelations I recieve, not all biblical teachings. The Spirit and the Bribe say, Come! You could say that is even a biblical teaching straight from the book of Revelations. I am with my Bride upon earth even though I don't see her true form till inner the paradise of my God. Again, man is a marriage from the get-go. This is how come I have a spirit guide that is one of my wives of paradise. You have to have a revelation from your spirit guide to pick up on where in the bible are the clues that back it all up concerning your true bride. My true bride is not of this world but is come with me in spirit form. I in human form, her in spirit form. The book of Revelation reveals the Spirit and Bride and any man. I am the Spirit and my spirit guide is my Bride. We have had communication not in the form of voice but in the form of great understandable feelings of such an ecstasy.

Never forget that the book of Revelations is to be revealed in the Spirit. And it has been revealed to me in Spirit via my Bribe which the book of revealation even backs up that I have come with me.


[edit on 12-4-2010 by Tormentations]

Originally posted by Tormentations
You have to have a revelation from your spirit guide to pick up on where in the bible are the clues that back it all up concerning your true bride...

Never forget that the book of Revelations is to be revelaed in the Spirit. And it has been revealed to me in Spirit via my Bribe which the book of revealtion even backs up that I have come with me.

This is circular. You are depending on your spirit guide to provide the evidence that your spirit guide can be trusted.

If your spirit guide cannot be trusted, you're in trouble.