When you was young.

the start of the rebel.

Your 8 year old

It's a hot, summers day,

your living in the countryside.

Your choice is to have no friend's

your more interested in your surroundings.

You travel far distances, maybe 40mins to an hour

Your Roaming around

on your bicycle on your own

exploring you different neighbourhoods, you enjoy going in to the countryside,

the hot, cripsy sand, the trees and fields sorrounding. You see a pond, you get of your bike and admire the were you are. You come of your cycle and walk around, sit down, lay down looking at the sky with clouds.

　

At 8 years old your brain is expanding, you are becoming much more wiser about your world, about were you live, you seem a lot more mature in your mind than other children.

Your physical defense is more robost and more technical than other 8 year old kids, your insitict for animals and nature is natural to you.

You get back on your bike and go to the trees, sit down in front of it and just speak to it in your mind, it gives you some sort of affection and comfort, you then have the urge to learn how to harden your hands for the future conflicting events that are to arise for you.

You hit and hit the tree until your bleeding you already make your own defence moves without any knowelege of matrial arts, it's like you was born with it.

You stop. You get back on your bike and go home, you go to your bedroom alone and look outside the window, you go out of your room, go to school and teach the children who are been bullied how to fight. Your building an army against the teachers, the oppressors.

You already feel you know your purpose on this earth, but you do not know what it is yet, your training your mind and body, but what are you preparing for?.

Your starting to grow spiritually mentally and physically at such a young age.
Dose this feel like you?

I believe this type of person is the rebel, what would you call this type of person.

I think that kid doesn't know where his head is. Starting a war on teachers just because he is against teaching is pretty stupid. You can get some great knowledge from teachers and school.The kid maybe a rebel, but he is not a very good one, and he seems to run on emotions more than anything.

At that age I was contemplating society without a government, or without a president, although I was never discussing with my peers. I was very open minded, but I usually kept the thoughts to myself unless they needed spoken.

reply to post by Phlynx


emotions can be wrong lead but being against them is more wrong, it says mister how you are not for truth which is one absolutely same of anything touched or sensed

and also your comment about teachers say that you cant be true, dont take what i say here as an offense please we are just playing right with words justifications possibilities as concepts life

teachers can say something right but they cant be great themselves, because being teacher is by definition not learning being true and greateness is only to truth life source ends

these qualities could be found in a rebel, or any person at all period
but they are not inherent in all rebels, or pertain to rebelious qualities

everyone should be inclined to experience personal expansion of conciousness in whatever area of their life they want

it doesn't mean they are a 'rebel'





[edit on 4/11/2010 by indigothefish]

i accidentally hit the blue light button on editing the last post on this thread

i have no idea what that means or what it does hahaha

so ummmmm if there are any problems i guess i'm sorry? haha

reply to post by indigothefish


i like to break what mean to break so we are playing only

try to break this argument that break yours

consciousness is existence now to exist of course you must be against what say existing too to an extend that being conscious first is being against all objective pretenses at least secretly until objective reality with it assert your existence being the true one to yourself

hey you cant say that everything is and also say being conscious and expanding one
you must know something for sure to say you being conscious about a source of anything, and you cant know anything but from yourself being that thing to know well

why do children at such a young age even have these's experiance's though? why do they feel they have to go out and do this?

reply to post by imans


i'm having trouble understanding your english

no seriously, i'm having trouble understanding your sentences

no idea, please clarify?

reply to post by indigothefish


clarify what or for what? you apparantly understood being wrong to claim that rebelious is not a quality of living conscious

reply to post by anonymousproxy


how old are you? why do you focus on that age 8? are you saying that all children are programmed at eight? it is stupid to call them later rebel then

"now there's a new look in your eyes...like black holes in the sky..."

I would say the traits the OP outlined can make rebels, but more broadly they define curiosity and a lyrical, poetic bent of soul. This can develop in many ways...into rebellion, or inwards, into mysticism or art...it can create a desire to shy away from the world and contemplate the dripping of water in deep caves, or to toss bombs at injustices, real or preceived. It can lead to deep wisdom or deranged madness. It all depends on the person and circumstances.

"Pile on many more layers, and I'll be joining you there..."

[edit on 4/11/10 by silent thunder]

Originally posted by imans
reply to post by anonymousproxy

 

how old are you? why do you focus on that age 8? are you saying that all children are programmed at eight? it is stupid to call them later rebel then

not age 8, just an experience. Maybe from age 5 but i think about 7 to 8 is were it start's to manifest?

Not all children are programmed at this age i think its very specific type of children who experiance this.

It never stupid at any age to become rebellious however the point of this thread is to ask whether you personally have experienced this at such young age. Why dose this kind of behaviour happen at such a young age?.



Like silent thunder mentioned and I

traits the OP outlined can make rebels, but more broadly they define curiosity and a lyrical, poetic bent of soul. This can develop in many ways...into rebellion, or inwards, into mysticism or art...

I agree the above has said. It could be numerous of things, many great people of our world started out similar to this way when very young, if at a young age deep wisdom was created, what is the need for great wisdom?. I am trying to gather why certain people of our world, the greatests legends born started to gain deep wisdom etc at such a young age.


[edit on 12-4-2010 by anonymousproxy]

Originally posted by imans
reply to post by indigothefish

 

clarify what or for what? you apparantly understood being wrong to claim that rebelious is not a quality of living conscious

this is what i mean, i can understand THAT sentence, but even still the fact that you said 'rebelious' and not 'rebeliousness' is an example of your way of speaking english...

i have no idea where you live, or how you have managed to speak or type like so, but everything you say is riddled with small grammar mistakes, no punctuation and or just doesn't make sense,
to me at least

i HONESTLY have NO IDEA what you tried to say here

i like to break what mean to break so we are playing only

try to break this argument that break yours

consciousness is existence now to exist of course you must be against what say existing too to an extend that being conscious first is being against all objective pretenses at least secretly until objective reality with it assert your existence being the true one to yourself

hey you cant say that everything is and also say being conscious and expanding one
you must know something for sure to say you being conscious about a source of anything, and you cant know anything but from yourself being that thing to know well

i like to break what mean to break so we are playing only? what does that mean? i'm not trying to disgust you or anything or be cruel or off topic...

you replied to ME with that statement, AND you are assuming i know what it means i can gather that much

but i have no clue what you are trying to say, really.

i can only GUESS that the statement you made posted in this post here means you are replying to something i said with a response that could prove another point of view than my own

all i was trying to say in my original post was similiar to what silent thunder said

I would say the traits the OP outlined can make rebels, but more broadly they define curiosity and a lyrical, poetic bent of soul. This can develop in many ways...into rebellion, or inwards, into mysticism or art...it can create a desire to shy away from the world and contemplate the dripping of water in deep caves, or to toss bombs at injustices, real or preceived. It can lead to deep wisdom or deranged madness. It all depends on the person and circumstances.

sure these qualities could be found in a 'rebel', but they are found in anyone, and do not 'lead' to being a rebel... they don't have anything to do with being a 'rebel', that's how i feel about it

i feel that you have something contradictory to my opinion to say on the matter but i HONESTLY don't understand what you are trying to say because i cannot decipher your speach, if you clarify for me then i can respond to you with my own

if you don't want to do that then please don't assume you have 'broke my argument', it's not your 'idea' that i don't understand, just the way you have typed your words i guess

Originally posted by anonymousproxy
I believe this type of person is the rebel, what would you call this type of person.

Someone in need of grammar.

The constant misuse of "your" for "you're" suggests someone in desperate need of an education.

reply to post by indigothefish


no it is the whole idea as well as its objective reality in details that you dont understand, like i never do mistakes, rebelious is the quality of a living conscious and not rebeliousness which i explained to you as consciousness is nothing real

and again you understood that i meant to break your argument to play so what is the point about repeating that you dont get my statement there off topic
it is not funny to you well say it that way, and i would see if i continue to bother you with my humor in replying to you or not

and i explained in previous post how i see being rebel as necessary for any real positive accomplishment the fact that you dont think so is your freedom choice but objectively you didnt justify anything of, how do you accomplish anything without being a rebel

reply to post by imans


You've got some real kneeslappers there, bud. You ought to post a warning so I know when you're about to uncork another one. You made me hork a mouthful of Ramen noodles all over my monitor.

Shecky Imans. He's here all week.

(Just a little advice, if you have to tell someone it's humor... it probably isn't)

consciousness is existence now to exist of course you must be against what say existing too to an extend that being conscious first is being against all objective pretenses at least secretly until objective reality with it assert your existence being the true one to yourself

I'm getting that on a t-shirt. Or a jacket with really long sleeves.

Originally posted by imans
reply to post by indigothefish

 

no it is the whole idea as well as its objective reality in details that you dont understand, like i never do mistakes, rebelious is the quality of a living conscious and not rebeliousness which i explained to you as consciousness is nothing real

and again you understood that i meant to break your argument to play so what is the point about repeating that you dont get my statement there off topic
it is not funny to you well say it that way, and i would see if i continue to bother you with my humor in replying to you or not

and i explained in previous post how i see being rebel as necessary for any real positive accomplishment the fact that you dont think so is your freedom choice but objectively you didnt justify anything of, how do you accomplish anything without being a rebel

I am slowly being able to understand what you are saying, but would you make it easier and use periods and punctuation better?

[edit on 12-4-2010 by Phlynx]

Huh?

You think you are any different than the rest of us? At MY age..I can tell you that I once thought I was alone in my thoughts...(follow me so far?) but now I can say that we all...mostly all, anyway...think pretty much the same from within our box...um..brain....um programming...um..follow my thoughts?

reply to post by Cornczech


umm no huh?

is it funny? only because i said so

but seriously, you having a brain to think yourself too dont assert being the same one living realisator than another self source, on the contrary it says that you are total different living one, because objectively yourself reality is the same, from absolute character of objective reality

but each self source is itself free space initiator of moves as real alone one with being true as truth is

that is why the more you know about others the more you become willing to live alone, as gods live alone too as truth living source is always alone

the conditions for objective reality one is what make you confuse easily with others but the more you are aware and the more your free true space is awake then being alone to himself true reality one

reply to post by Phlynx


thanks for meaning being kind