Can the human eye actually emit an energy beam?

reply to post by Bedlam


Clear as in "biophoton" clear?

www.opticsinfobase.org... 718.pdf%3Fda%3D1%26id%3D194718%26seq%3D0&org=

www.healingcancernaturally.com...

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A model to explain the relaxation behaviour of a biophoton signal is developed. The model assumes that every biological system is endowed with a non-classical electromagnetic field in a squeezed state. The quantum evolution of the state determines the shape of the signal. It is illustrated by considering the evolution of a single mode field described by a frequency stable damped oscillator. The model predicts a relaxation behaviour in the form (n(t) = B0 + B2(1 + λ0t)2. The coefficients B0 and B2 depend upon the initial state of the field and are situation specific. The constant λ0 is determined by the damping of the field and is system specific. The model explains in a natural way two characteristic features of biophoton signals, namely non-exponential decay of light induced emission and constant flux of spontaneous emission. The model is applied to the light induced photon emission in flowers of Tagetes Patula. The value of the damping coefficient λ0 in this system is found to be (0.040 ± 0.011)s−1.

www.informaworld.com...=a727099219&db=all

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Several experiments show that there is a cell to cell communication by light in different cell types. This article describes theoretical mechanisms and subcellular structures that could be involved in this phenomenon. Special consideration is given to the nervous system, since it would have excellent conditions for such mechanisms. Neurons are large colourless cells with wide arborisations, have an active metabolism generating photons, contain little pigment, and have a prominent cytoskeleton consisting of hollow microtubules. As brain and spinal cord are protected from environmental light by bone and connective tissue, the signal to noise ratio should be high for photons as signal. Fluorescent and absorbing substances should interfere with such a communication system. Of all biogenic amines nature has chosen the ones with the strongest fluorescence as neurotransmitters for mood reactions: serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine. If these mechanisms are of relevance our brain would have to be looked upon as a “holographic computer”.

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Cell to cell communication by biophotons has been demonstrated in plants, bacteria, animal neutrophil granulocytes and kidney cells. Whether such signal communication exists in neural cells is unclear. By developing a new biophoton detection method, called in situ biophoton autography (IBA), we have investigated biophotonic activities in rat spinal nerve roots in vitro. We found that different spectral light stimulation (infrared, red, yellow, blue, green and white) at one end of the spinal sensory or motor nerve roots resulted in a significant increase in the biophotonic activity at the other end. Such effects could be significantly inhibited by procaine (a regional anaesthetic for neural conduction block) or classic metabolic inhibitors, suggesting that light stimulation can generate biophotons that conduct along the neural fibers, probably as neural communication signals. The mechanism of biophotonic conduction along neural fibers may be mediated by protein-protein biophotonic interactions. This study may provide a better understanding of the fundamental mechanisms of neural communication, the functions of the nervous system, such as vision, learning and memory, as well as the mechanisms of human neurological diseases.

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reply to post by Bedlam


O.K. so far you've

1) ignored the double blinded Mayo Clinic study because it's not published yet.

2) ignored the singled blinded Harvard study because it's funded by a foundation that wants qigong to be real.

3) Dismissed the others because they're just abstracts, or are scientists IN A VIDEO and therefore not worth watching -- or are by researchers not at prestigious schools.

4) Finally there's the Western science explanation for qigong -- the biophoton model. I've presented an array of biophoton studies.

I await your excuses on biophoton research as the Western explanation for qigong.

The clock is ticking.

Remember this is your final chance to completely dismiss the reality of civilizations twice as old as Western civlization -- the prana of India and the qi of China. Then there's the Bushmen culture where this all comes from -- the original humans of 90% of human history.

So it's you versus 90% of human history. Only you get to decide who is right.

I'm betting that you're right.

Originally posted by drew hempel
reply to post by Bedlam

 

O.K. so far you've

1) ignored the double blinded Mayo Clinic study because it's not published yet.

How can I do otherwise? It's not published. All you've got is an abstract.

2) ignored the singled blinded Harvard study because it's funded by a foundation that wants qigong to be real.

3) Dismissed the others because they're just abstracts, or are scientists IN A VIDEO and therefore not worth watching -- or are by researchers not at prestigious schools.

It's generally a bad sign when you have a single blind study at a place that is an advocate for what they're studying. By the way, it wasn't done at Harvard, now, was it? Some guy from Harvard was on the author list, but not as top billing. The guy from the foundation was. For all you know your Harvard guy was a lab assistant, or did the stats.

New Jersey University of Dentistry? Come on.

edit: Abstracts do not contain enough information for someone to evaluate. They're meant to give you about a paragraph outlining what the paper covers, so you can see if you're interested at a glance. If what you post as "PROOF!!11" is abstracts, and the root paper isn't published anywhere, then they're not worth anything. I get that you don't read scholarly papers as part of your day-to-day routine, but the abstract part isn't all that useful, except as a quick guide to see if the paper is what you're looking for.

4) Finally there's the Western science explanation for qigong -- the biophoton model. I've presented an array of biophoton studies.

I await your excuses on biophoton research as the Western explanation for qigong.

The clock is ticking.

No, it's the usual copy/paste barrage with the same old tired mantra at the end - If you don't read, critique, and fully research these two hundred links I've smacked down here in 15 minutes from google, YOU FAIL!, which seems to be a staple of the mystic side of ATS. It's intended to throw two or three dozen hours of work at someone, which the more sane of us are unwilling to put in. I spent several hours last night actually READING the links you posted before, only to find some of them didn't even apply to the topic, and the rest weren't all that good.

Here's my fresh new alternative. YOU read them, you obviously haven't been so far, and YOU pick say, two or three which you feel have rigorous controls, researchers skilled in that field, decent p-values, no pesky financial obligations to or special interest in the subject, and what would be really nice, something that's been independently replicated and passed not only the initial review boards for publication, but which have stood up to review from the readers. Then I'll be happy to take a look at them.

Remember this is your final chance to completely dismiss the reality of civilizations twice as old as Western civlization -- the prana of India and the qi of China. Then there's the Bushmen culture where this all comes from -- the original humans of 90% of human history.

So it's you versus 90% of human history. Only you get to decide who is right.

I'm betting that you're right.

Well, why are you leaving out the Ba'al worshippers? Ba'al was a big deal for centuries, because he gives people magic power. And of course, you've got to feed a few infants to the ovens for him, so what? Then of course, the Aztecs, hey, they were a near SUPER race, right? What's a few heads chopped off and hearts ripped out, when you can appease the gods and become a demi-god yourself? Same with the Druids, eh?

All through human history, there's been a LOT of religious or mystical practices. Not all of them are useful, or correct, or have any correlation to reality. Some do, here and there, many don't. People have a bad design problem with magical thinking and confirmation bias, and that's why we've painstakingly developed this neat tool called science to try to trim away error, delusion and wishful thinking. Admit it, and come into the light bequeathed to us by the Greeks, and renewed in the Renaissance. You know you can do it.

PS: In the morning I'm off to a customer site for a week, you can WIN (ha ha!) all week, because I won't have time or access to ATS. Actually won't have that much time today. So you can go do 20-30 hours of research on your papers you want to use as exemplars.

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reply to post by FortAnthem


Oh god...being able to turn things on and off with your eyes....

You think obesity is a problem now?

Originally posted by drew hempel
reply to post by Bedlam

 

The thing about qigong is it's not based on science -- it's interactive.

Nothing in the universe is based on science. Science is based on the universe. When science can explain a force, the force is regarded as real. Fiction does not show up under scientific analysis. Theories abound, but only the measurable things are real. Magical powers have yet to be deemed real. All I need is one experiment to show me this force exists and I will believe.

reply to post by earthdude


O.K. so maybe you will believe when you read through the over 2000 experiments in the Harvard qigong database?

www.qigonginstitute.org...

Dr. Sancier -- of Harvard -- has collected over 5,000 qigong science experiment abstracts.

Enjoy.

The eye can not emit anything! The power is all mine!!! but I have to not be around people cause others f me up and I am not a people person makeing me supposedly automatically evil! Ain't that broke Good luck to you billion year people, think you are doing the right thing in auto w/o qusetion. ..

Congrats, let me be the first

reply to post by drew hempel


"Results: The skin temperatures of the palm and fingers elevated after the start of the qigong exercise. Transmission of qi to the peripheries reached the maximum in 3-4 min., the temperature was as high as 4°C. They returned to the original level within a few minutes after the session of the exercise."
This is fake science.

reply to post by earthdude


So you can't sit in full lotus? haha.

Easy to test it -- just sit in full lotus say in 38 degree F. in the middle of the night and then see if you can create internal heat. It's called tummo or kundalini, etc.

www.nature.com...

We report here that in a study performed there in February 1981, we found that these subjects exhibited the capacity to increase the temperature of their fingers and toes by as much as 8.3°C.

Yeah the Journal Nature -- the most respected general science journal in publication.

Harvard Labs -- Harvard Medical school.

www.youtube.com...

Enjoy!

Infrared cameras document the heat increase from the qigong master!

www.youtube.com...

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Originally posted by drew hempel
reply to post by earthdude

 

So you can't sit in full lotus? haha.

Easy to test it -- just sit in full lotus say in 38 degree F. in the middle of the night and then see if you can create internal heat. It's called tummo or kundalini, etc.

www.nature.com...

We report here that in a study performed there in February 1981, we found that these subjects exhibited the capacity to increase the temperature of their fingers and toes by as much as 8.3°C.

Yeah the Journal Nature -- the most respected general science journal in publication.

Harvard Labs -- Harvard Medical school.

www.youtube.com...

Enjoy!

Infrared cameras document the heat increase from the qigong master!

www.youtube.com...

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I can do the full lotus better than most monks (knock-kneed). Still no science depicted in your vids. No control, no actual measurments. Just some magic tricks. I can do everything on the vids you posted, not amazing, not scientifically documented.

reply to post by drew hempel


I have access to the entire Nature journal archives/backfile collection.

If you want the fulltext of that study you cited, I can upload it.

The author affiliations in this study weirds me out...

The US Army is among them....

So, here we have military-level research, nice.

I did not know of that study, thank you for referencing to it.

Edit- nevermind, freely available

lib.semi.ac.cn:8080...

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reply to post by earthdude


Right the VIDS! Yeah mon -- I like watching vids too.

Reading "science" journals on the other hand -- yeah I feel for you.

Good luck next time.

Originally posted by jjjtir
reply to post by drew hempel

 

I have access to the entire Nature journal archives/backfile collection.

If you want the fulltext of that study you cited, I can upload it.

The author affiliations in this study weirds me out...

The US Army is among them....

So, here we have military-level research, nice.

I did not know of that study, thank you for referencing to it.

Edit- nevermind, freely available

lib.semi.ac.cn:8080...

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Wow thanks for the Nature article link!!

Yeah it's not from increased food intake or increased metabolism but from increase blood flow.



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reply to post by drew hempel


No problem, if you need any study from any journal hosted on Nature.com let me know.

By the way, good to see a scientific report on this heat elevation phenomena.

On ATS alone, there are multiple anecdotes that a member's body started to get warm during meditation.

reply to post by jjjtir


Sure I was speaking from experience .... of a shark? haha.

Extrasensory perception in animals.... BBC -- yes these can be developed by humans as well!!!

video.google.com...#

www.martialdevelopment.com...

John Chang was a practical joker. I had been on an elevator with him one evening along with twenty other people. The elevator was a glass-walled unit that ferried people up and down the floors of a shopping mall; there was a steel railing all around that people rested their backs on. We were going out to eat that evening at a local restaurant on the top floor of the mall. Suddenly a burst of current pulsed through the steel backstop. Women screamed and everyone pulled away, suspecting a short circuit. John pulled away too, as I had, but I needed only one look at the barely suppressed grin on his face to realize what had really happened: He had sent a pulse of bio-energy through the railing!

www.youtube.com...

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Can the human eye emit an energy beam?

I have been pondering this for quite some time now, and I believe the answer is yes!

Have you ever looked someone in the eyes and instantly gotten an accelerated heartbeat? Start to perspire? Get butterflies in your stomach?

Have you ever looked someone in the eyes and felt instant fear? Started to tremble? Became "paralyzed" despite your efforts to move?

I find this subject intriguing. I also find it interesting that the eyes are the only part of the body exposed to the external world that is fully comprised of living tissue...and they have a gland, the tear ducts, to cleanse the surface.

Many people can read emotions of others, simply by looking them in the eyes. The eyes tell a lot about an individual.

When I hear the phrase "the eyes are the window to the soul", I believe that there is a lot of truth to that.

Soul = energy
eyes emit that energy!

Nice thread OP!

nevermind....

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Originally posted by rufusdrak
en.wikipedia.org...


Please read this. The word Electromagnetic does not occur once in that entire article. EEG to my knowledge do not measure electro-magnetic radiation.
That means that when it reads a frequency a delta wave frequency of let's say 5hz, that does NOT correspond to a 5hz ELF electromagnetic radiation wave, it is merely representative a 5hz electric potential signal as it oscillates 5 times per second back and forth through the brain.

What is this guy on about? This is a fraud.

The guy is a psychiatrist, not a physicist, and as soon as the words "patent-pending" were applied to the equipment he's cobbled together to measure these eyebeams I lost what little interest I had in what he had to say. I'm sure he'll sell some of these contraptions to people who want to verify to themselves the fact that their own eyebeams are the bestest.

I reckon its all about the kerching factor. This quack obviously doesn't feel he earns enough by asking people how something has made them feel.

Could this not be attributed to a socially evolved peripheral vision?

The brain has evolved to recognize social cues...and the sensory perceptions we have support this in many cases...

That said...there may be something to be said about some kind of physical correlation to human attention..

Fascinating topic...

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by SheaWolf

 

If that's the case, wouldn't it make more sense for a predator to not send those beams out of their eyes in the first place? What evolutionary function would such beams serve? They don't help us see through walls. They don't help us see in the dark.


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Not saying I believe we have or don't have beams of some form of energy coming from our eyes.. but I can think of a possible answer for the brain using energy in this manner.

The brain could be collecting data from things we cannot see or measure and storing and analyzing it on a subconscious level. Like seeing into another dimension.

I don't see why this isn't just as plausible as anything else. There are tons of things science cannot detect that have theories. Our science is very primitive. We are just a stones throw away from cave man science in the grand scheme of things. With all our science and knowledge, we actually know next to nothing.

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