Russian Ships set sail, Bombers patrol the Aleutians & Rearming Vietman

I came across a bunch of articles about the Russia Navy. To sum it up-they growing and pushing outward. The Russians are beginning to fill the void being left open by the constant weakening of the USA by its own POTUS (and friends). I feel war is when not if. [I wonder if we should have an ATS countdown clock at the top of the page.....]

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The flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, the cruiser Moskva, has set to sail for the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian Ocean to join other ships of the Russian Northern and Pacific Fleets in large-scale exercises. Then the squadron will head for the Suez Canal and further to the Indian Ocean with short stops at ports in Syria and Yemen

Source: english.ruvr.ru...

then add in this: The Pyotr Veliky: On the High Seas Again!
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The Pyotr Veliky will take part in large-scale naval exercises. The combined exercises involving the Pacific, Northern and Baltic Fleets, as well as foreign ships, will take place in the Indian Ocean

Source: english.ruvr.ru...

Then this:
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Two Russian strategic bombers patrolled an area in the Pacific Ocean off the Aleutian Islands on Thursday. During a 15-hour flight the bombers were shadowed by fighters of the Canadian Air Force

Source: english.ruvr.ru...

And then: Russia to build submarine base and help rebuild an Air Force for Vietnam:

Russia will help Vietnam to build its own submarine base. Vietnam intends to purchase six Russian submarines. Also, Russia will participate in building a Vietnamese repair dockyard that will provide repair and maintenance support to Russian ships as well and pledged support in creating and modernizing Vietnam’s Air Force

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Let's just hope that Russia doesn't feel threatened by any of our Missile Defense Shields. If they do, they can easily opt out of this latest scam of a disarmament deal.

Score! 4 more points for Russia and the USA is at a about -1 right now.

good OP anon i would also like to add that the kyrgyzstan coup was russian backed and the gerogian opposition is threatening to do the same in georgia. also the red shirts in thailand could also be russian backed...

Growing back as super state was a goal for Mr Putin when he takes lead after disasterous era of Jeltsin. He has just done what was promised, and Russia is back in world politics as superpower.

Hail to mr Putin from his well skills in diplomacy and high knowledge of military needs - this formidable achievement was made olmost in decade.

Building fences means not war - It needs two to tango. I dont think Putin is after great war but military movements we will see in strategical locations more and more - that is what super powers has always done.

Most interesting is Russian cooperation with Chinese and future of SCO, which is also achievement by president Putin. Common idealism was produced to oppose US hegemony - Multipolarism.

After that policy we have seen great progress in bilateral ties with two powerfull nations - And idea of Multipolarism - is not idelism of war or challenging any super powers... Multi not mean one, like USA will see them self as only superpower.

So, we are calm here in Finland, borderstate of Russia - and if greed for Iranian and all asian resources will not grow too high in USA - I think yanks has nothing to be afraid with them either.

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Russia has nothing to do with Thaksin, who was first ousted to Britain and then to UAE. backers of that thief can be found from western corporations and banks, who wants to challenge old system and king of Thailand.

Russian movements in Caucasus was well waited, and can be also included with deal made with west --- Iranian question i mean.

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You sound like you will love these projects of Mr. Putin. I gotta give it to him-he is doing what he said he was going to do-rebuild Russia to it's former glory (the world glory leaves a lot to interuptation).

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(at the risk of being called a thread pumper.... I know but I do think it paints the overall important picture about current Russia).

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I'll take the USN vs the Russian Navy any day of the week, anywhere, anytime.

They have a LONG WAY to go to even compare....... Sorry.

Thing is when the US falls, Russia and China will turn against each other.

China need to expand and the closest place to do so is in Siberia.

I don't know if Russia knows they are arming their future enemy...

Originally posted by pavil
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I'll take the USN vs the Russian Navy any day of the week, anywhere, anytime.

They have a LONG WAY to go to even compare....... Sorry.

You're right, the USN does have much to be desired. I'd like to see a supercarrier taskforce take on the Northern Fleet, the carrier would be downed along with its puny AWACS and the rest of the American sailors would start to panic fast as Russian anti-ship cruise missiles rain from the sky. I'm not saying that the Russians would be invincible, but it would definately not be in American favor IMO.

Russian naval/air force movements in the Aleutians are probably related to their desire to conquer the Arctic and its resources. Canada has already declared its intent to maintain a higher military presence in our arctic territory.

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A smaller, smarter, better equiped and more motivated force can be pretty dangerous. And then add in any allies it has gotten together.

They would only have to score one or two major blows before Obama would be at their feet. I don;'t think we, the USA current administartion, would respond as the USA of 1941 did.

Let's try not to over exaggerate the capability and size of the Russian military.

The Russian navy is a fifth of the size it was in the 90's and the air force cannot afford the levels of training of their western peers with a third of inventory permanently unserviceable (according to Flight International). The whole military suffers from low morale and bullying is rife. The much vaunted Russian hardware has never seemed to live up to expectations, but does do well at parades.

The Russians have a GDP less than Italy and the nation is sustained by oil revenues and plagued by corruption.

The only thing that keeps Russia in the club is their nukes, oil and the legacy influence from the Soviet era writ large by their arsing about with Iran.

I don’t want to downplay the military capability, but just warn about over stating it – that’s all.

Regards

Originally posted by anon72

A smaller, smarter, better equiped and more motivated force can be pretty dangerous. And then add in any allies it has gotten together.

About the only thing going for the Russian Navy in your statement is that it is smaller. The USN is better trained, has more motivated crews, combat tested (at least more so than Russian) ships, with better overall ships. I'll give you Russia has some good subs. Other than subs, I give the overall nod to the USN.

As for allies I'll take the Royal Navy and other allies over Russia's Naval allies, which BTW are.......who?