Unprecedented Look Inside Jehovahs Witnesses

Through a strange series of events i have in my possession a book that outlines the entire religion of the Jehovahs Witnesses, one of the most secretive religious groups in the world.

The book is called Reasoning From The Scriptures and is a handbook the JWs use when going "field witnessing"as they refer to it. Ive scanned some 299 pages of this 400 page book to show people what the JWs really believe and just how out there the whole thing really is.

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I dont think this can be considered copyright infringement because you cant buy this book anywhere and im not using it to earn money or anything, just as people attempt to get out sensitive Scientology documents i think this needs to be seen as well.

Here is the introduction from the book that outlines how to "debate" with people...

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Let me know if you guys want to see more as i said i have 200 pages of this and its a bit of a process to get them up here but you guys have got to see this...

Can you sum up the general beliefs that differ from usual Christianity?
Is there anything that's really weird?
I've heard some things about them, what about the end of the world, when do they predict that?

I have discovered the best way to get rid of a Jehova's Witness, it comes from the teachings of the great Prophet of the irritable, hungover and just generally disagreeable, the man himself, R. Lee Ermey. I would go to Youtube and find videos to post here, but I would probably just get in trouble.

Basically, it involves taking a deep breath and repeating every insult and imprecation you've ever heard in their most foul and vile derivation until the watchtower-bearing parasite finally leaves. My record is about fifteen second. Of course, I was naked, bloody and bruised at the time, and had dirty, sweaty hair matted all over my head. (I'd had a REALLY good time the night before, in the moshpit at the VFW hall.)

And no, I don't care what they have to say, I'm never going to engage any of them in any sort of a debate about their faith, because I DON'T DO THAT!!!

Responding hungover and irratible is good. Whilst naked is even better. Make them get the hell off your lawn ! And traumatize them so that they never try it again.

I'll give them a good tip for when they knock at peoples doors...don't be holding a copy of WatchTower.

As soon as i look down and see that in their hands, i make my excuses and close the door.

reply to post by JWtruth123


Since most religious groups think homosexuality is a religious matter verses a genetic predisposition, I wouldn't listen to anything they had to say. Period.

[edit on 7-4-2010 by Magantice]

I used to love when JW's came a'callin'.
I would tell them that they were just in time, but then not say anything else about it and just let them talk for a few minutes.
Then I would inform them that this was a house dedicated to Odin and they were more than welcome to join us for tonight's sacrifice.
Usually, they'd bugger off shortly thereafter.

I once wrote 666 on my forehead and answered the door in my underwear ans said what the f^%k do you want.

I spent several of my first years of life, attending the Kingdom Hall.

Honestly, all religions have crazy beliefs, to the people who are not believers. Lol

I remember an atmosphere of family, everyone acting as if they were brothers and sisters, within the 'brotherhood'. Everybody was so caring and helpful to everyone else, though of course the door-to-door thing sucked! As a kid though, I don't remember people randomly cursing with '666' on their foreheads.

The problem though, is how easily someone can become 'excommunicated' from the people who acted like family just the day before.

I found that my family was strictly in contact with ONLY other witnesses. We were very isolated. And my family that stayed within the church, is still very isolated. Amazing how 'excommunication' can even cause REAL family members to disown one another forever.

I guess it is a cult.

Sorry to rant, just sharing my experience with the strange group.

I have something that works like magic on any Jehova's Witness that is unlucky enough to ring my door bell when I am home.

Say to them:
"Shake the dust from your feet, and PISS OFF"

This comes from Luke 9 :3-5
A passage of scripture Jehova's Witnesses are all very familiar with.

"When you go into a house, stay there until it is time to leave. If the people in the town will not welcome you, go outside the town and shake their dust off of your feet".

This says two things to a Jehova's witness.

1/ You are a Christian and know scripture.

2/ You have absolutely no time for a Jehova's witness, and they are UNWELCOME.

They won't just leave, they will break into a run to escape as fast as they can.
The look on their faces is always absolutely priceless.
They realize you probably know more than they do, and they just freak out.

Remember to say, "shake the dust from your feet and piss off".

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They rewrote the Bible to say what they wanted it to say...Jesus was no longer the Son of God or God.

Their founder Pastor Russle was also a child molester, I believe he was charged and accused by several children's famiilies.

I also believe he was a high ranking mason and brought some of that weirdness into his new religion.

J W is not masonic. Look it up.

This is a friends experience with the Jehos. He was invited to join them one sunday for communion.

As they passed the plate of bread around, he noticed NO ONE was taking any bread from the plate. So when it came to him he naturally let it pass as well not wanting to be the only one to take from it.

Afterwards he asked his friend who invited him why they did that and he explained that only the 144000 chosen of God can take of it. How do they keep track of that?? Anybody could decide one day to eat the bread and make the rest believe that they were a chosen one.

Um, what is the topic? "How to get rid of JW's?" I would like to read what people think of this topic. "Unprecedented Look Inside Jehovahs Witnesses"

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The poster "iamnot " has done this. The rest have responded to the best of their personal experience with the said group.

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Before I get into reading this (I've skimmed the first few pages) I wanted to say something. I have met a few JW's. They are a group that wants to spread the word and stick with each other. They kick out people not living by the rules of the church. While I don't agree with this practice, one thing about them surprised me.

They have a very similar view of the bible as New Ager's. That when Jesus spoke in the bible is was a metaphor and not necessarily to be taken literally. I'm sure this has led them out of Christian circles for this reason. However, as a New Ager myself (if I can even be labeled as such) I spoke with some JW's about the bible without knowing they were JW's and we saw eye to eye on many things. The only difference was that they believed in rituals of the bible and I didn't.

I always invite the JWs to have a religious conversation, and I always listen to their preaching with care and grace. Of course, I believe they are mistaken, so I engage them in a light discussion on their beliefs.

The unfortunate thing about the JWs and the Mormons is that they have their own "scriptures" and will not accept those of another. Hence, there is no discussion.

To overcome the scriptural problem, there are some scriptures in the Book of Mormon and in the JW bible that reveal that God is a Trinity. This conflicts with their own stated beliefs. For example, in Isaiah 9:6 in the KJV, which is the same as the JW bible, you can see the trinity. This verse is also in the Book of Mormon in 2 Nephi 19:6, as the Book of Mormon quotes Isaiah (with changes).

Here's the JW version:
"6 For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
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Here's the Mormon version:
"6 For unto us a a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
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Here's the King James Version of the Bible:
"[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
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You can see in each religion's text that the "son" is the "Father" and the "Counselor [aka Comforter, or Holy Ghost per Jesus] and God. "John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. "

I honestly think that a lot of religious people really do not read their own texts. For example, the Book of Mormon clearly teaches against baptism for the dead, but the Mormon church builds over 100 temples worldwide with a primary function of baptizing for the dead (over 300 million done): " 22 For behold that all little children are alive in Christ, and also all they that are without the law. For the power of redemption cometh on all them that have no law; wherefore, he that is not condemned, or he that is under no condemnation, cannot repent; and unto such baptism availeth nothing—
23 But it is mockery before God, denying the mercies of Christ, and the power of his Holy Spirit, and putting trust in dead works." Moroni 8:22-23

Imagine wasting all that time doing 300 million baptisms for dead people who had no law and were not condemned.

Anyway, they should read their own books, instead of wasting their time and my time coming to my door, only to leave because they "had to go" because they didn't want to hear the truth.

I guess my point here is that you don't have to learn all about their inner workings to stand before them and state the scriptural truths that they should already know and support, then draw the conclusion that, based on their own scriptures, their teachings are wrong.

PS: If you need some trinity references, I put some here: www.abovetopsecret.com...


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Originally posted by ExPostFacto

I spoke with some JW's about the bible without knowing they were JW's and we saw eye to eye on many things. The only difference was that they believed in rituals of the bible and I didn't.

I agree, they have many very sound Christian beliefs that I agree with myself.

But what really gets up my nose is the brain washing and psychological manipulation and PROGRAMMING that is all a part of becoming a Jehova's witness.
You become a robot spouting official doctrine.

I have been told by the JW's that it take five yeas to become one of them.

Now I know something about hypnosis and mind control, I have experienced quite a bit of this myself as part of the process of gaining a high level security clearance. My case officer was a psychologist and a hypnotist.
I know how it is all supposed to work, and I can recognize the same techniques and what I see in Jehova's witnesses as a similar type of mental control mechanism.

That is not true spirituality, but mind control, and best avoided.

Heres the first look at the topics the book covers...

The JWs dont use the King James versin of the bible they use what is called The New World Translation, heres what the books says about it...

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And heres one of my favorites, evolution...

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Please discuss...

Originally posted by JWtruth123


Please discuss...

You're not giving us much to discuss. Just pictures that anyone could see. I've probably got an edition of that lying around here if I wanted to look hard enough. Basically, what's your take(point) of these pictures?